Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The fact remains if you brag about your family being on the Mayflower you are bragging that your family owned slaves and were murderers? Yes, it is nasty and true.
It amuses the hell out of me what people see and don't see. When I think of folks who came over on the Mayflower, I think nothing beyond folks coming over on the Mayflower. Everything isn't about race and racial hatred. As a Jew, I couldn't imagine living my life hating all Germans. I just don't have enough time for that.
I don't get it.
One PP said that they could not possibly be low class (unlike all of those other private school arrivistes) because the their ancestors came over on the Mayflower. Another PP then responded that people who came over on the Mayflower started slavery.
How is this making everything about race and racial hatred? How is this comparable to Jews hating or not hating all Germans?
No, the PP said that individual was bragging about starting slavery, that it was the same.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The fact remains if you brag about your family being on the Mayflower you are bragging that your family owned slaves and were murderers? Yes, it is nasty and true.
It amuses the hell out of me what people see and don't see. When I think of folks who came over on the Mayflower, I think nothing beyond folks coming over on the Mayflower. Everything isn't about race and racial hatred. As a Jew, I couldn't imagine living my life hating all Germans. I just don't have enough time for that.
I don't get it.
One PP said that they could not possibly be low class (unlike all of those other private school arrivistes) because the their ancestors came over on the Mayflower. Another PP then responded that people who came over on the Mayflower started slavery.
How is this making everything about race and racial hatred? How is this comparable to Jews hating or not hating all Germans?
No, the PP said that individual was bragging about starting slavery, that it was the same.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The fact remains if you brag about your family being on the Mayflower you are bragging that your family owned slaves and were murderers? Yes, it is nasty and true.
It amuses the hell out of me what people see and don't see. When I think of folks who came over on the Mayflower, I think nothing beyond folks coming over on the Mayflower. Everything isn't about race and racial hatred. As a Jew, I couldn't imagine living my life hating all Germans. I just don't have enough time for that.
I don't get it.
One PP said that they could not possibly be low class (unlike all of those other private school arrivistes) because the their ancestors came over on the Mayflower. Another PP then responded that people who came over on the Mayflower started slavery.
How is this making everything about race and racial hatred? How is this comparable to Jews hating or not hating all Germans?
Anonymous wrote:I don't care what people think about my choice but I don't like it when people think my choice is a rejection of theirs.
I love this comment, especially the last part.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The fact remains if you brag about your family being on the Mayflower you are bragging that your family owned slaves and were murderers? Yes, it is nasty and true.
It amuses the hell out of me what people see and don't see. When I think of folks who came over on the Mayflower, I think nothing beyond folks coming over on the Mayflower. Everything isn't about race and racial hatred. As a Jew, I couldn't imagine living my life hating all Germans. I just don't have enough time for that.
So you would be okay with somebody bragging that hey were related to Hitler?
Mayflower ancestors ==/== related to Hitler. The pilgrims and first settlers were often indentured laborers themselves. I learned this in public school, don't they teach this in private schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The fact remains if you brag about your family being on the Mayflower you are bragging that your family owned slaves and were murderers? Yes, it is nasty and true.
It amuses the hell out of me what people see and don't see. When I think of folks who came over on the Mayflower, I think nothing beyond folks coming over on the Mayflower. Everything isn't about race and racial hatred. As a Jew, I couldn't imagine living my life hating all Germans. I just don't have enough time for that.
So you would be okay with somebody bragging that hey were related to Hitler?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The fact remains if you brag about your family being on the Mayflower you are bragging that your family owned slaves and were murderers? Yes, it is nasty and true.
It amuses the hell out of me what people see and don't see. When I think of folks who came over on the Mayflower, I think nothing beyond folks coming over on the Mayflower. Everything isn't about race and racial hatred. As a Jew, I couldn't imagine living my life hating all Germans. I just don't have enough time for that.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The fact remains if you brag about your family being on the Mayflower you are bragging that your family owned slaves and were murderers? Yes, it is nasty and true.
It amuses the hell out of me what people see and don't see. When I think of folks who came over on the Mayflower, I think nothing beyond folks coming over on the Mayflower. Everything isn't about race and racial hatred. As a Jew, I couldn't imagine living my life hating all Germans. I just don't have enough time for that.
Anonymous wrote:Would now be the time to say that my 16 year old daughter told her public schooled cousin to "beat the stereotype, don't be it"?
jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We never tell this to others but one of the reasons we send DC to an elite private school is b/c we want him to get into the most elite frat, eating club, secret society, etc at an Ivy.
Some of us care about stuff like that.
I secretly think lots of the parents at our private school are first generation social climbers without any real class. My family came over on the Mayflower, so this stuff is irrelevant to me. If you think elite frat = class, you've missed the point completely.
Besides, don't send your kid to private to get into an Ivy. He'd have a better chance from Whitman.
This is akin to bragging that your family started slavery in the US. Nice!
It's actually not. Puritans were not slave owners. You must have gone to a public school.
Not PP, but i did go to public. And Harvard. And my parents didn't buy my spot. Moron.
Exactly why I would never pay for a Harvard education. Your statement about slavery was probably one of the most ignorant statements I've ever heard on DCUM.
You may want to reconsider Harvard. The statement that you believe to be "one of the most ignorant" you've ever heard on DCUM was accurate.
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And the fact that you did not find it ignorant and are blatantly progressive proves my point. It's the nastiness in which it was said, and the fact that race had to be brought into the topic. But then Jeff, you are the absolute master at this sort of thing.
jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We never tell this to others but one of the reasons we send DC to an elite private school is b/c we want him to get into the most elite frat, eating club, secret society, etc at an Ivy.
Some of us care about stuff like that.
I secretly think lots of the parents at our private school are first generation social climbers without any real class. My family came over on the Mayflower, so this stuff is irrelevant to me. If you think elite frat = class, you've missed the point completely.
Besides, don't send your kid to private to get into an Ivy. He'd have a better chance from Whitman.
This is akin to bragging that your family started slavery in the US. Nice!
It's actually not. Puritans were not slave owners. You must have gone to a public school.
Not PP, but i did go to public. And Harvard. And my parents didn't buy my spot. Moron.
Exactly why I would never pay for a Harvard education. Your statement about slavery was probably one of the most ignorant statements I've ever heard on DCUM.
You may want to reconsider Harvard. The statement that you believe to be "one of the most ignorant" you've ever heard on DCUM was accurate.