Anonymous wrote:What's the point of this thread? mudslinging over whether city living is better than sub and exurb living ?

Maybe we should talk about facts:

It is a fact larger houses and longer commutes sap energy resources and adversely affect the environment. It is a fact that DC proper cannot physically hold everyone while meeting personal tastes. Everything has a trade off. What's needed are smarter, greener ways to commute to work, power our homes and cars.

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What's the point of this thread? mudslinging over whether city living is better than sub and exurb living ?

Maybe we should talk about facts:

It is a fact larger houses and longer commutes sap energy resources and adversely affect the environment. It is a fact that DC proper cannot physically hold everyone while meeting personal tastes. Everything has a trade off. What's needed are smarter, greener ways to commute to work, power our homes and cars.

Anonymous wrote:People really think "walkability" is not desirable?

Love my BMW, and have no desire to live near urban riff-raff, post-college kids still in their beer-pong stage, or self-absorbed yuppies with their monster strollers and pets they don't even bother to pick up after.

Anonymous wrote:People really think "walkability" is not desirable?

Some people still think their harem pants are going to be coming back into style any day.

Wow, walk score of 97. Cool, Too bad I still have a 60 mile RT to work (sigh)

walkscore only tells you what is close though - not everything that it shows is actually walkable.

and WHAT is walkable matters to one person and not another.

I love that I can walk to schools and the library, but the restaurants in our nearby shopping center are all chains. To me, that is just fine, but to others, that would be unacceptable. They might want to be walkable to hot restaurants and not give a crap about schools.

Walk Scores are a huge factor for us. We do NOT want to be tied to our car. The conveninece, the freedom, the environmental impact, the built in exercise, the ability to have a glass of wine and dinner and walk home, the pros go on and on and on. Lots of people I love are "car people" so I will never engage in insults but we will NEVER go back.

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of anger and name-calling on here, but I think the fundamental answer to the OP's question is that some people don't think it's just a "live and let live" issue. They think that other people's decisions to buy larger houses and larger cars and do more driving impact the rest of us negatively by increasing the carbon in the atmosphere and raising global temperatures. There are no laws saying you can't do this in the U.S., but it seems people should be able to voice their opposition to it just as other people voice their opposition to other moral and ethical decisions they disagree with.

Blather away. We'll enjoy our lives while you live in a shit shack and try and convince yourself you've taken some moral high ground.

What is this with the shit shack? I live in one of the most expensive neighborhoods in the district, willing to wager that most, if not all, houses on our block cost more than anyone posting on this thread.

If houses on your block really cost THAT much, then chances are that your DC neighborhood is as walkable as Ashburn.

Then you really are unfamiliar with every neighborhood in NW. We're not all Spring Valley or Upper Kent.

No, you're not all Spring Valley or Upper Kent. But some of you are. I didn't say "your neighborhood IS". I said "chances are." Do a rating of DC's most expensive neighborhoods of SFH by walking distance to metro and see.

And chances are...you were wrong. FWIW, there is about a 35 point diff in the walk score between my 'hood of SFHs and Ashburn.

So what? Who buys houses based on walk scores?

Wellll...when we were looking to relocate earlier this year, I used walkscore to eliminate neighborhoods so I did not have to waste the realtor's time on areas that would not work for us.

NP here. Since when is providing employment "using/consuming resources"??!! A rhetorical question of course.

The arguments here are so petty, it s a wonder you people can tie your own shoes.

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of anger and name-calling on here, but I think the fundamental answer to the OP's question is that some people don't think it's just a "live and let live" issue. They think that other people's decisions to buy larger houses and larger cars and do more driving impact the rest of us negatively by increasing the carbon in the atmosphere and raising global temperatures. There are no laws saying you can't do this in the U.S., but it seems people should be able to voice their opposition to it just as other people voice their opposition to other moral and ethical decisions they disagree with.

Blather away. We'll enjoy our lives while you live in a shit shack and try and convince yourself you've taken some moral high ground.

What is this with the shit shack? I live in one of the most expensive neighborhoods in the district, willing to wager that most, if not all, houses on our block cost more than anyone posting on this thread.

If houses on your block really cost THAT much, then chances are that your DC neighborhood is as walkable as Ashburn.

Then you really are unfamiliar with every neighborhood in NW. We're not all Spring Valley or Upper Kent.

No, you're not all Spring Valley or Upper Kent. But some of you are. I didn't say "your neighborhood IS". I said "chances are." Do a rating of DC's most expensive neighborhoods of SFH by walking distance to metro and see.

And chances are...you were wrong. FWIW, there is about a 35 point diff in the walk score between my 'hood of SFHs and Ashburn.

So what? Who buys houses based on walk scores?

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of anger and name-calling on here, but I think the fundamental answer to the OP's question is that some people don't think it's just a "live and let live" issue. They think that other people's decisions to buy larger houses and larger cars and do more driving impact the rest of us negatively by increasing the carbon in the atmosphere and raising global temperatures. There are no laws saying you can't do this in the U.S., but it seems people should be able to voice their opposition to it just as other people voice their opposition to other moral and ethical decisions they disagree with.

Blather away. We'll enjoy our lives while you live in a shit shack and try and convince yourself you've taken some moral high ground.

What is this with the shit shack? I live in one of the most expensive neighborhoods in the district, willing to wager that most, if not all, houses on our block cost more than anyone posting on this thread.

If houses on your block really cost THAT much, then chances are that your DC neighborhood is as walkable as Ashburn.

Then you really are unfamiliar with every neighborhood in NW. We're not all Spring Valley or Upper Kent.

No, you're not all Spring Valley or Upper Kent. But some of you are. I didn't say "your neighborhood IS". I said "chances are." Do a rating of DC's most expensive neighborhoods of SFH by walking distance to metro and see.

And chances are...you were wrong. FWIW, there is about a 35 point diff in the walk score between my 'hood of SFHs and Ashburn.

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of anger and name-calling on here, but I think the fundamental answer to the OP's question is that some people don't think it's just a "live and let live" issue. They think that other people's decisions to buy larger houses and larger cars and do more driving impact the rest of us negatively by increasing the carbon in the atmosphere and raising global temperatures. There are no laws saying you can't do this in the U.S., but it seems people should be able to voice their opposition to it just as other people voice their opposition to other moral and ethical decisions they disagree with.

Blather away. We'll enjoy our lives while you live in a shit shack and try and convince yourself you've taken some moral high ground.

What is this with the shit shack? I live in one of the most expensive neighborhoods in the district, willing to wager that most, if not all, houses on our block cost more than anyone posting on this thread.

If houses on your block really cost THAT much, then chances are that your DC neighborhood is as walkable as Ashburn.

Then you really are unfamiliar with every neighborhood in NW. We're not all Spring Valley or Upper Kent.

It seems that we've come full circle because people who live in uber-expensive DC neighborhoods like Kalorama consume far more resources than a typical McMansion-dweller in Ashburn. They often have personal drivers, they drive or have their children driven to private schools in Maryland or elsewhere in DC, they invariably have second or third homes, and they jet around on fuel-burning airplanes. The folks in Ashburn may have slightly larger homes, but they drive their own cars to jobs in Tysons or Dulles, their kids walk to school or take a bus, they don't have vacation homes, and their idea of a big getaway is a week at an East Coast beach.

My guess is that you could gather all the DCUM posters who are truly environmentally conscious and they'd fit comfortably in a broom closet. The rest are just engaging in the typical bragging over who's living the most stylish life.

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Gentrified? Everyone is middle eastern, Indian, Asian in Tysons s area.... Lots of multi-generations stuffed into one house. No wonder they can't imagine living in a rowhouse.

It's just so amusing to see that there are still people out there who define gentrification by whiteness. Attagirl.

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of anger and name-calling on here, but I think the fundamental answer to the OP's question is that some people don't think it's just a "live and let live" issue. They think that other people's decisions to buy larger houses and larger cars and do more driving impact the rest of us negatively by increasing the carbon in the atmosphere and raising global temperatures. There are no laws saying you can't do this in the U.S., but it seems people should be able to voice their opposition to it just as other people voice their opposition to other moral and ethical decisions they disagree with.

Blather away. We'll enjoy our lives while you live in a shit shack and try and convince yourself you've taken some moral high ground.

What is this with the shit shack? I live in one of the most expensive neighborhoods in the district, willing to wager that most, if not all, houses on our block cost more than anyone posting on this thread.

If houses on your block really cost THAT much, then chances are that your DC neighborhood is as walkable as Ashburn.

Then you really are unfamiliar with every neighborhood in NW. We're not all Spring Valley or Upper Kent.

No, you're not all Spring Valley or Upper Kent. But some of you are. I didn't say "your neighborhood IS". I said "chances are." Do a rating of DC's most expensive neighborhoods of SFH by walking distance to metro and see.

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of anger and name-calling on here, but I think the fundamental answer to the OP's question is that some people don't think it's just a "live and let live" issue. They think that other people's decisions to buy larger houses and larger cars and do more driving impact the rest of us negatively by increasing the carbon in the atmosphere and raising global temperatures. There are no laws saying you can't do this in the U.S., but it seems people should be able to voice their opposition to it just as other people voice their opposition to other moral and ethical decisions they disagree with.

Blather away. We'll enjoy our lives while you live in a shit shack and try and convince yourself you've taken some moral high ground.

What is this with the shit shack? I live in one of the most expensive neighborhoods in the district, willing to wager that most, if not all, houses on our block cost more than anyone posting on this thread.

If houses on your block really cost THAT much, then chances are that your DC neighborhood is as walkable as Ashburn.

Then you really are unfamiliar with every neighborhood in NW. We're not all Spring Valley or Upper Kent.