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Anonymous wrote:Why isn't there the same kind of sympathy for Adam Lanza?

There was and still is. Just because it isn't publicized doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Same for Lee Boyd Malvo. How do young men get led into this type of thinking?

Do you feel sorry for Kleibold and Harris?

Not the Pp but yes. I feel sorry for anyone who gets to a place where they feel like the best option is to murder innocent people. That has to be a really horrible place to be in, one I can't even comprehend. It isn't just an idea they get one night...their life leads to that moment and I feel sorry for the life they have lived, that it led to being in that mind space. That doesn't take away from the atrociousness of their actions or their guilt or the consequences.

Some people are just...wrong. At the FBI academy they teach the Bundy case as a beginning to people who can just be bad. I know it's scary to think that some people are like this, that you want to live in a world where if you fix someone they won't rape, murder or bomb. But, there are bad people. Even from good homes.

I'm glad you've lived a world that you never had to face that, I hope you live the rest of your life never knowing another world.

I actually work with people with antisocial personalities and in forensics. I don't believe that anyone is simply born irreparably evil and that their destiny to be a murderer, rapist, bomber is made at that point - that they had no choice in the matter. I work with people who are at a point that they have no conscience, no remorse, no guilt, no empathy. They laugh at causing pain and suffering. They feel nothing other than pity for themselves. And I still don't believe that any of them were just born evil. It isn't an issue of bad homes. Sure sometimes they had terrible homes, but bad things also happen to kids who grow up in good homes. On top of that many had obvious signs at an early age of mental illness that wasn't properly treated or with sufficient intensity. Some people overcome adversity, others are very damaged by it. Even Ted Bundy had adversity in his life. Can we prevent all acts of violence - no. It is the cost of humans being imperfect.

NP here. If we identify with their life, it is easier to sympathize. You need to brush up on Sociopaths. Start by looking around.

Anonymous wrote:Because he's white and good looking, basically. People are literally that dumb.

That's it exactly. These horrible young men probably remind you of family members. If they looked like the initially descriptions of them said they did (dark, black, Saudi) you would not feel the same! You are judging the book by the cover, and the notion of these horrible people does not fit with your picture of what it should look like.

Anonymous wrote:Do you feel sorry for Waleed Mohammed al-Shehri? He was but a young student when he was recruited to be a terrorist?

Or because he's brown he doesn't get your love?

PP said she/he felt empathy for Lee Boyd Malvo. He's black, FYI. And other posters mentioned feeling empathy for Seung-Hui Cho, who was Korean. So why are you making this about race?

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Anonymous wrote:Why isn't there the same kind of sympathy for Adam Lanza?

There was and still is. Just because it isn't publicized doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Same for Lee Boyd Malvo. How do young men get led into this type of thinking?

Do you feel sorry for Kleibold and Harris?

Not the Pp but yes. I feel sorry for anyone who gets to a place where they feel like the best option is to murder innocent people. That has to be a really horrible place to be in, one I can't even comprehend. It isn't just an idea they get one night...their life leads to that moment and I feel sorry for the life they have lived, that it led to being in that mind space. That doesn't take away from the atrociousness of their actions or their guilt or the consequences.

Some people are just...wrong. At the FBI academy they teach the Bundy case as a beginning to people who can just be bad. I know it's scary to think that some people are like this, that you want to live in a world where if you fix someone they won't rape, murder or bomb. But, there are bad people. Even from good homes.

I'm glad you've lived a world that you never had to face that, I hope you live the rest of your life never knowing another world.

Perhaps the weapon of choice of these brothers could be seen as symbolic. Maybe for ethnic Chechens, with their genetic history of violence and conflict, living in the US was the ultimate pressure cooker.

Do you feel sorry for Waleed Mohammed al-Shehri? He was but a young student when he was recruited to be a terrorist?

Or because he's brown he doesn't get your love?

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Anonymous wrote:Why isn't there the same kind of sympathy for Adam Lanza?

There was and still is. Just because it isn't publicized doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Same for Lee Boyd Malvo. How do young men get led into this type of thinking?

Do you feel sorry for Kleibold and Harris?

Not the Pp but yes. I feel sorry for anyone who gets to a place where they feel like the best option is to murder innocent people. That has to be a really horrible place to be in, one I can't even comprehend. It isn't just an idea they get one night...their life leads to that moment and I feel sorry for the life they have lived, that it led to being in that mind space. That doesn't take away from the atrociousness of their actions or their guilt or the consequences.

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Anonymous wrote:Why isn't there the same kind of sympathy for Adam Lanza?

There was and still is. Just because it isn't publicized doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Same for Lee Boyd Malvo. How do young men get led into this type of thinking?

Do you feel sorry for Kleibold and Harris?

Anonymous wrote:Lots of stuff we don't know in that speculation. We don't know he tried to kill himself. Reports are conflicting about the origins and extent of his wounds. I doubt we will ever know the truth of that. Also, if you are saying he can't face what he's done, that would imply guilt, realization and remorse. Unlikely emotions in a 'monster'.

I never called him a monster, you may confuse me with another poster.

I'm sure he has emotions. As I said before, many of the murders I've met in prison do - true sociopaths are rare. Maybe he loves his family, is sad about getting caught. Who knows.

I DO know that I don't feel sorry for him.

Anonymous wrote:It's probably all traceable back to hormones. Young males in tribes since humanity began, looking for a target for their emerging aggressive and competitive natures. They want to fight someone, something, anything. Rebels with a cause, even if it's a stupid one.

The older one was a boxer and the younger one a wrestler. Not enough of an outlet? They needed to spend time digging ditches, lifting heavy rocks and chipping away at said rocks.

It's probably all traceable back to hormones. Young males in tribes since humanity began, looking for a target for their emerging aggressive and competitive natures. They want to fight someone, something, anything. Rebels with a cause, even if it's a stupid one.

Anonymous wrote:Why isn't there the same kind of sympathy for Adam Lanza?

There was and still is. Just because it isn't publicized doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Same for Lee Boyd Malvo. How do young men get led into this type of thinking?

I'm with the Uncle--they were losers. Zero sympathy for those murderers.

19:15 Adam Lanza was almost certainly mentally ill. Not the same self-determination quotient. That said, I felt sorry for him and for his parents and brother.