Actually I have a HHI of $300K, so I think I'm clearly middle class. I don't usually shop at Shoppers but had to run in to grab something (after coming out of the Costco nearby), and this Shoppers is right next to Hyattsville!

Anonymous wrote:Sorry but if you shop at that Shoppers you're from a different demographic than the people we are talking about. That's like saying you were at The Murray's in Brookland! And if you want scary people day drinking just go to DC.

I wish people would stop acting as if DC is all Georgetown and PG is all whatever neighborhoods over here where poor people live. Blacksburg? I go early don't know because we never go there, just like the DC people in ME never go to their sketchy neighborhoods.

I actually loved living in PG County! When my husband's job moved to Tysons, we made the decision to move to Virginia so he would have a short commute. Honestly, I freaking hated it (Vienna), but have come to peace with it. I posted before about this. http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/45/643989.page

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Anonymous wrote:I think the main reason people don't want to live in PG is that they are prejudiced against people who are different from them. I have lived in MoCo and PG and I find

1) Less crime. When we lived in MoCo (Wheaton) our car was broken into multiple times and my purse was snatched. I've lived and worked in PG for 15 years and I've never had anything broken into or stolen. The police in my community are very proactive and responsive. The only time I've had to call them was about dogs being off leash.
2) People are generally more friendly and helpful than in MoCo.
3) Many of the towns in PG have a small town community feeling that you don't get in MoCo (Hyattsville, Cheverly, Mt Rainier)
4) Less traffic

Whoever said that PG doesn't have diversity clearly doesn't know what they are talking about. The kids in my local ES hail from over 27 countries and speak 15 languages.

Not true for homicides.

PG had 80 in 2017 (down from 100), and MoCo had 20. Fairfax is usually around 20 as well.

I am talking about my specific experience. The middle class neighborhood I live (Cheverly) in has very little crime. The neighborhoods in MoCo that I could afford to live in had tons of crime. I can buy a nice SFH for under $400K in a good neighborhood in PG. I MoCo or Fairfax I would be in a townhouse or dump at that price point.

Violent crime such as murder is not usually a random event. Most in PG is gang/drug related or domestic dispute.

Another reason we chose PG is that because the housing costs are so low we can live well on one income and have a stay at home parent for our kids.

Anonymous wrote:I think the main reason people don't want to live in PG is that they are prejudiced against people who are different from them. I have lived in MoCo and PG and I find

1) Less crime. When we lived in MoCo (Wheaton) our car was broken into multiple times and my purse was snatched. I've lived and worked in PG for 15 years and I've never had anything broken into or stolen. The police in my community are very proactive and responsive. The only time I've had to call them was about dogs being off leash.
2) People are generally more friendly and helpful than in MoCo.
3) Many of the towns in PG have a small town community feeling that you don't get in MoCo (Hyattsville, Cheverly, Mt Rainier)
4) Less traffic

Whoever said that PG doesn't have diversity clearly doesn't know what they are talking about. The kids in my local ES hail from over 27 countries and speak 15 languages.

Not true for homicides.

PG had 80 in 2017 (down from 100), and MoCo had 20. Fairfax is usually around 20 as well.

So what is the difference between a sport bike and a dirt bike/ATV? I've googled it and asked around. Nobody seems to have ever heard of this distinction except you. There are lots of stories about the kids driving their dirt bikes and ATVs from DC out to National Harbor on a few occasions. I can't find anything about people riding something called a sport bike in PGC.

But really, whatever the distinction may be, it's pretty clear that this sports bike problem is quite rare.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the main reason people don't want to live in PG is that they are prejudiced against people who are different from them. I have lived in MoCo and PG and I find

1) Less crime. When we lived in MoCo (Wheaton) our car was broken into multiple times and my purse was snatched. I've lived and worked in PG for 15 years and I've never had anything broken into or stolen. The police in my community are very proactive and responsive. The only time I've had to call them was about dogs being off leash.
2) People are generally more friendly and helpful than in MoCo.
3) Many of the towns in PG have a small town community feeling that you don't get in MoCo (Hyattsville, Cheverly, Mt Rainier)
4) Less traffic

Whoever said that PG doesn't have diversity c[u]learly doesn't know what they are talking about. The kids in my local ES hail from over 27 countries and speak 15 languages.

they mean white people

I live in PG County and there are a ton of white people. Check the Whole Foods.

Yeah I think a lot of people assume because it is a majority black county that there are no white people and write the whole county off out of pure ignorance and racism.

There are a few municipalities in PG that are mostly white like College Park or University Park or split down the middle demographically like Hyattsville.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the main reason people don't want to live in PG is that they are prejudiced against people who are different from them. I have lived in MoCo and PG and I find

1) Less crime. When we lived in MoCo (Wheaton) our car was broken into multiple times and my purse was snatched. I've lived and worked in PG for 15 years and I've never had anything broken into or stolen. The police in my community are very proactive and responsive. The only time I've had to call them was about dogs being off leash.
2) People are generally more friendly and helpful than in MoCo.
3) Many of the towns in PG have a small town community feeling that you don't get in MoCo (Hyattsville, Cheverly, Mt Rainier)
4) Less traffic

Whoever said that PG doesn't have diversity c[u]learly doesn't know what they are talking about. The kids in my local ES hail from over 27 countries and speak 15 languages.

they mean white people

I live in PG County and there are a ton of white people. Check the Whole Foods.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry but the dirt bikes are a DC thing, not PGC. "Butler, who also worked on the 2014 ballot initiative that legalized recreational marijuana in D.C., said ATVs and dirt bikes have long been a part of the city’s culture — “bike life,” it’s called — just as they are in cities like Baltimore, Atlanta and Cleveland — where rides are filmed and widely shared on social media."
https://wamu.org/story/18/02/15/culture-crime-d-c-group-wants-legalize-atvs-dirt-bikes/

Nope - dirt bikes and ATV's and different than sport bikes - go and look it up.

Though there is certainly some overlap geographically across the DC/PG line.

you can just say black people we all know who you are and what you're like

Nope. The guys on the sport bikes usually have helmets on.

I've never seen similarly moronic behavior on the roads of other parts of our region though there are certainly plenty of terrible drivers of all races in our area.

I have only seen this once near the casino on the highway.

And because they have helmets you can't see their hands and arms?

Anonymous wrote:I think the main reason people don't want to live in PG is that they are prejudiced against people who are different from them. I have lived in MoCo and PG and I find

1) Less crime. When we lived in MoCo (Wheaton) our car was broken into multiple times and my purse was snatched. I've lived and worked in PG for 15 years and I've never had anything broken into or stolen. The police in my community are very proactive and responsive. The only time I've had to call them was about dogs being off leash.
2) People are generally more friendly and helpful than in MoCo.
3) Many of the towns in PG have a small town community feeling that you don't get in MoCo (Hyattsville, Cheverly, Mt Rainier)
4) Less traffic

Whoever said that PG doesn't have diversity c[u]learly doesn't know what they are talking about. The kids in my local ES hail from over 27 countries and speak 15 languages.

they mean white people

PG is no worse than any other county in the area unless you live on the PG/DC border, but if you live further out in the county it's as mundane as living in FairFax or MoCo.

Very little crime and most of PG is very rural, actually most of Maryland is very rural period and PG is no exception.

Some may not want to live here but hey I don't want to live in Fairfax, Arlington or anywhere in Va to be honest, so I can't be mad. Plus houses still sell pretty fast in this county. I live near a large brand new community and the builder sold every single home and these are houses in the 500k range, so there are clearly many people that are interested in spending good money to live here.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry but the dirt bikes are a DC thing, not PGC. "Butler, who also worked on the 2014 ballot initiative that legalized recreational marijuana in D.C., said ATVs and dirt bikes have long been a part of the city’s culture — “bike life,” it’s called — just as they are in cities like Baltimore, Atlanta and Cleveland — where rides are filmed and widely shared on social media."
https://wamu.org/story/18/02/15/culture-crime-d-c-group-wants-legalize-atvs-dirt-bikes/

Nope - dirt bikes and ATV's and different than sport bikes - go and look it up.

Though there is certainly some overlap geographically across the DC/PG line.

you can just say black people we all know who you are and what you're like

Nope. The guys on the sport bikes usually have helmets on.

I've never seen similarly moronic behavior on the roads of other parts of our region though there are certainly plenty of terrible drivers of all races in our area.

DP here. I've lived and worked in PG County for 26 years. The only place I routinely see sport bikes is on I-95. I rarely see them off the highways. I'm not sure where in PG County you are looking (it is a very large county), but in the northern part of the county (Laurel-Bowie-Beltsville, Greenbelt, Lanham, College Park), I see them maybe once or twice a year. That's hardly a reason not to live here.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry but the dirt bikes are a DC thing, not PGC. "Butler, who also worked on the 2014 ballot initiative that legalized recreational marijuana in D.C., said ATVs and dirt bikes have long been a part of the city’s culture — “bike life,” it’s called — just as they are in cities like Baltimore, Atlanta and Cleveland — where rides are filmed and widely shared on social media."
https://wamu.org/story/18/02/15/culture-crime-d-c-group-wants-legalize-atvs-dirt-bikes/

Nope - dirt bikes and ATV's and different than sport bikes - go and look it up.

Though there is certainly some overlap geographically across the DC/PG line.

you can just say black people we all know who you are and what you're like

Nope. The guys on the sport bikes usually have helmets on.

I've never seen similarly moronic behavior on the roads of other parts of our region though there are certainly plenty of terrible drivers of all races in our area.

I think the main reason people don't want to live in PG is that they are prejudiced against people who are different from them. I have lived in MoCo and PG and I find

1) Less crime. When we lived in MoCo (Wheaton) our car was broken into multiple times and my purse was snatched. I've lived and worked in PG for 15 years and I've never had anything broken into or stolen. The police in my community are very proactive and responsive. The only time I've had to call them was about dogs being off leash.
2) People are generally more friendly and helpful than in MoCo.
3) Many of the towns in PG have a small town community feeling that you don't get in MoCo (Hyattsville, Cheverly, Mt Rainier)
4) Less traffic

Whoever said that PG doesn't have diversity clearly doesn't know what they are talking about. The kids in my local ES hail from over 27 countries and speak 15 languages.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry but the dirt bikes are a DC thing, not PGC. "Butler, who also worked on the 2014 ballot initiative that legalized recreational marijuana in D.C., said ATVs and dirt bikes have long been a part of the city’s culture — “bike life,” it’s called — just as they are in cities like Baltimore, Atlanta and Cleveland — where rides are filmed and widely shared on social media."
https://wamu.org/story/18/02/15/culture-crime-d-c-group-wants-legalize-atvs-dirt-bikes/

Nope - dirt bikes and ATV's and different than sport bikes - go and look it up.

Though there is certainly some overlap geographically across the DC/PG line.

you can just say black people we all know who you are and what you're like

Anonymous wrote:Too many sport bikes on the road.

This isn't why I wouldn't live in PG.

But I so hate driving there in nice weather because you honest to goodness cannot go 5 minutes on a road in PG without some knuckleheads on sport bikes dangerously weaving in and around traffic and revving up their engines.

Darwinism will take care of some of these idiots but I dread driving in PGC.

wow this is a new one. -PG resident