Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am the anti prep person. Prepping for me is preparing for the specific test, which is (IMHO) unethical, as the test is scaled assuming there is no prep. I can not site a reference for that.

There is a huge difference between prep for a specific test as a 2nd grader that should not be prepped, and activities that grow the overall mind. Reading, critical thinking, creative play, etc all can enhance ones mental capacity. Playing chess, checkers, even monopoly and risk will hav long term benifits, and can lead to increased intellectual capability.

Specific drill and practice for the CogAT will not; it may increase the score but will not accomplish anything else.

In addition, getting into AAP is not that hard.

BTW< you can also game the WISC: take it three times in two weeks. The kid will score a higher score. Most psychologists would consider that unethical.

Butndon't the scores go to a central testing company paired with your child's name? Or do you lie about that too? Nice way to teach your child ethics.

How can you take the WISCONSIN three times in 2 weeks? You can only take it once a year.

Three different psycologists, each not knowning about the others.

Some high school students have more intelligence and common sense than many adults here. Some even understand genetics and drivers of intelligence, mental and physical performance.

And, so quickly, we see examples to illustrate 11:59.

I think there might be some high school kids with time on their hands before school starts posting on this thread. The name calling, the less than respectful tone toward other posters, calling people who disagree "wackadoodles" and "crazies", and just the overall tone of some of these posts don't really say "grown-up" to me. I love an intellectual discussion of an interesting topic as much as the next person, but sadly, this thread keeps veering away from that. It's too bad, because this is a good topic upon which reasonable, informed people may disagree, but could learn from each other in the right context.

This is the downside of anonymous forums

Anonymous wrote:

What did I say that is ill-informed?

Don't worry, be happy. If you don't get it you never will.

What did I say that is ill-informed?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am the anti prep person. Prepping for me is preparing for the specific test, which is (IMHO) unethical, as the test is scaled assuming there is no prep. I can not site a reference for that.

There is a huge difference between prep for a specific test as a 2nd grader that should not be prepped, and activities that grow the overall mind. Reading, critical thinking, creative play, etc all can enhance ones mental capacity. Playing chess, checkers, even monopoly and risk will hav long term benifits, and can lead to increased intellectual capability.

Specific drill and practice for the CogAT will not; it may increase the score but will not accomplish anything else.

In addition, getting into AAP is not that hard.

BTW< you can also game the WISC: take it three times in two weeks. The kid will score a higher score. Most psychologists would consider that unethical.

You may be educated but you're so ill-informed.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am the anti prep person. Prepping for me is preparing for the specific test, which is (IMHO) unethical, as the test is scaled assuming there is no prep. I can not site a reference for that.

There is a huge difference between prep for a specific test as a 2nd grader that should not be prepped, and activities that grow the overall mind. Reading, critical thinking, creative play, etc all can enhance ones mental capacity. Playing chess, checkers, even monopoly and risk will hav long term benifits, and can lead to increased intellectual capability.

Specific drill and practice for the CogAT will not; it may increase the score but will not accomplish anything else.

In addition, getting into AAP is not that hard.

BTW< you can also game the WISC: take it three times in two weeks. The kid will score a higher score. Most psychologists would consider that unethical.

How can you take the WISCONSIN three times in 2 weeks? You can only take it once a year.

Anonymous wrote:I am the anti prep person. Prepping for me is preparing for the specific test, which is (IMHO) unethical, as the test is scaled assuming there is no prep. I can not site a reference for that.

There is a huge difference between prep for a specific test as a 2nd grader that should not be prepped, and activities that grow the overall mind. Reading, critical thinking, creative play, etc all can enhance ones mental capacity. Playing chess, checkers, even monopoly and risk will hav long term benifits, and can lead to increased intellectual capability.

Specific drill and practice for the CogAT will not; it may increase the score but will not accomplish anything else.

In addition, getting into AAP is not that hard.

BTW< you can also game the WISC: take it three times in two weeks. The kid will score a higher score. Most psychologists would consider that unethical.

Phelps etc did not prep for a specific test....they worked on a tool kit. Prepping for the CogAT is not transportable. Learning to dribble, kick better etc is.



PP: You are simplply wrong. research ethics.