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Anonymous wrote:Anecdotally my jewish friends in the US are by far more successful, connected, happy, fulfilled, living their best lives compared to almost all of my non jewish friends. Not only do they have the unconditional support, connections and networking opportunities from their synagogues and other jewish friends, but many have inherited wealth that most could only dream of. None of my non jewish friends attend church, they have no community whatsoever, minimal, if any inheritance and zero connections. Perhaps I only associate with the exceptions but these jewish individuals are not hurting or suffering from anything other than jet lag from their last international holiday. They have a vast network of support that many others lack due to not belonging to a particular religion or group.

Your point is Jews are not hurt by anti-semitism because they are successful? Excellent.

I want to know specifically and individually how each of these seemingly comfortable, very happy, well adjusted, well educated, well traveled, well cared for connected people feel threatened solely for being jewish people.

I’m happy, comfortable, well-educated and well-off, but I still would prefer if I didn’t have to go through a metal detector to go to synagogue. I don’t feel constantly, or even often, threatened for being Jewish, but I think it’s pretty silly to say that if you’re happy in most regards it doesn’t matter if some people hold misguided stereotypes or hatred for you.

Antisemitism isn’t like most other prejudices — being successful actually often makes people hate Jews MORE. It’s a conspiracy theory at heart, that we’re too powerful and run the world. No one is going to deny me a job or a mortgage these days because I’m Jewish, but that doesn’t mean there’s no cost at all to Jew-hatred for the Jews. Just ask the unfortunately large number of Jews who have been shot in recent years at their synagogues — even entirely excluding incidents where the shooters say they were motivated by Israeli atrocities (which I don’t think is really a reasonable thing to exclude, but let’s do it for the sake of argument), you still have neo-Nazis attacking us because they think we’re bringing in non-whites to somehow ruin the country. Sure, your Jewish friends may be happy, but I bet they’d be happier if that didn’t happen!

I am an active atheist because I don’t enjoy or appreciate the forced collectivism and conformity that comes with all religions. I don’t have to worry about being shot for discussing my ancestry or going to church or temple where metal detectors are required. I live freely and independently in the modern day and I am my own person not the culmination of my supposed ancient ancestors.

Good for you, seriously. But I don’t think I should have to give up traditions that are important to me (and that have been important to my family for generations) in exchange for safety.

You could be free and as relatively safe as anyone else if you chose to be.

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Anonymous wrote:Anecdotally my jewish friends in the US are by far more successful, connected, happy, fulfilled, living their best lives compared to almost all of my non jewish friends. Not only do they have the unconditional support, connections and networking opportunities from their synagogues and other jewish friends, but many have inherited wealth that most could only dream of. None of my non jewish friends attend church, they have no community whatsoever, minimal, if any inheritance and zero connections. Perhaps I only associate with the exceptions but these jewish individuals are not hurting or suffering from anything other than jet lag from their last international holiday. They have a vast network of support that many others lack due to not belonging to a particular religion or group.

I wonder why? Ever wonder how that happens? I mean , we all would love to have a vast network of opportunities and connections and wealth coming from a group we are part of....Hmmmmmm.

This is silly. Yes, Jews as an ethnicity are relatively successful. But we don’t know each other - the heads of business / entertainment happen to be Jewish, but they didn’t get any boost from a network or conspiracy or whatever. It’s just a bunch of individuals. Maybe they have similar values, but that’s it. All the successful Jews are not connected.

They do get a boost because Jews are more likely to hire or befriend other Jews. That happens with all groups and ethncities and it’s what perpetuates the success - for example, you see the same with Mormons.

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Anonymous wrote:Anecdotally my jewish friends in the US are by far more successful, connected, happy, fulfilled, living their best lives compared to almost all of my non jewish friends. Not only do they have the unconditional support, connections and networking opportunities from their synagogues and other jewish friends, but many have inherited wealth that most could only dream of. None of my non jewish friends attend church, they have no community whatsoever, minimal, if any inheritance and zero connections. Perhaps I only associate with the exceptions but these jewish individuals are not hurting or suffering from anything other than jet lag from their last international holiday. They have a vast network of support that many others lack due to not belonging to a particular religion or group.

Your point is Jews are not hurt by anti-semitism because they are successful? Excellent.

I want to know specifically and individually how each of these seemingly comfortable, very happy, well adjusted, well educated, well traveled, well cared for connected people feel threatened solely for being jewish people.

I’m happy, comfortable, well-educated and well-off, but I still would prefer if I didn’t have to go through a metal detector to go to synagogue. I don’t feel constantly, or even often, threatened for being Jewish, but I think it’s pretty silly to say that if you’re happy in most regards it doesn’t matter if some people hold misguided stereotypes or hatred for you.

Antisemitism isn’t like most other prejudices — being successful actually often makes people hate Jews MORE. It’s a conspiracy theory at heart, that we’re too powerful and run the world. No one is going to deny me a job or a mortgage these days because I’m Jewish, but that doesn’t mean there’s no cost at all to Jew-hatred for the Jews. Just ask the unfortunately large number of Jews who have been shot in recent years at their synagogues — even entirely excluding incidents where the shooters say they were motivated by Israeli atrocities (which I don’t think is really a reasonable thing to exclude, but let’s do it for the sake of argument), you still have neo-Nazis attacking us because they think we’re bringing in non-whites to somehow ruin the country. Sure, your Jewish friends may be happy, but I bet they’d be happier if that didn’t happen!

I am an active atheist because I don’t enjoy or appreciate the forced collectivism and conformity that comes with all religions. I don’t have to worry about being shot for discussing my ancestry or going to church or temple where metal detectors are required. I live freely and independently in the modern day and I am my own person not the culmination of my supposed ancient ancestors.

Good for you, seriously. But I don’t think I should have to give up traditions that are important to me (and that have been important to my family for generations) in exchange for safety.

You could be free and as relatively safe as anyone else if you chose to be.

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Anonymous wrote:Anecdotally my jewish friends in the US are by far more successful, connected, happy, fulfilled, living their best lives compared to almost all of my non jewish friends. Not only do they have the unconditional support, connections and networking opportunities from their synagogues and other jewish friends, but many have inherited wealth that most could only dream of. None of my non jewish friends attend church, they have no community whatsoever, minimal, if any inheritance and zero connections. Perhaps I only associate with the exceptions but these jewish individuals are not hurting or suffering from anything other than jet lag from their last international holiday. They have a vast network of support that many others lack due to not belonging to a particular religion or group.

I wonder why? Ever wonder how that happens? I mean , we all would love to have a vast network of opportunities and connections and wealth coming from a group we are part of....Hmmmmmm.

This is silly. Yes, Jews as an ethnicity are relatively successful. But we don’t know each other - the heads of business / entertainment happen to be Jewish, but they didn’t get any boost from a network or conspiracy or whatever. It’s just a bunch of individuals. Maybe they have similar values, but that’s it. All the successful Jews are not connected.

They do get a boost because Jews are more likely to hire or befriend other Jews. That happens with all groups and ethncities and it’s what perpetuates the success - for example, you see the same with Mormons.

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Anonymous wrote:Anecdotally my jewish friends in the US are by far more successful, connected, happy, fulfilled, living their best lives compared to almost all of my non jewish friends. Not only do they have the unconditional support, connections and networking opportunities from their synagogues and other jewish friends, but many have inherited wealth that most could only dream of. None of my non jewish friends attend church, they have no community whatsoever, minimal, if any inheritance and zero connections. Perhaps I only associate with the exceptions but these jewish individuals are not hurting or suffering from anything other than jet lag from their last international holiday. They have a vast network of support that many others lack due to not belonging to a particular religion or group.

Your point is Jews are not hurt by anti-semitism because they are successful? Excellent.

I want to know specifically and individually how each of these seemingly comfortable, very happy, well adjusted, well educated, well traveled, well cared for connected people feel threatened solely for being jewish people.

I’m happy, comfortable, well-educated and well-off, but I still would prefer if I didn’t have to go through a metal detector to go to synagogue. I don’t feel constantly, or even often, threatened for being Jewish, but I think it’s pretty silly to say that if you’re happy in most regards it doesn’t matter if some people hold misguided stereotypes or hatred for you.

Antisemitism isn’t like most other prejudices — being successful actually often makes people hate Jews MORE. It’s a conspiracy theory at heart, that we’re too powerful and run the world. No one is going to deny me a job or a mortgage these days because I’m Jewish, but that doesn’t mean there’s no cost at all to Jew-hatred for the Jews. Just ask the unfortunately large number of Jews who have been shot in recent years at their synagogues — even entirely excluding incidents where the shooters say they were motivated by Israeli atrocities (which I don’t think is really a reasonable thing to exclude, but let’s do it for the sake of argument), you still have neo-Nazis attacking us because they think we’re bringing in non-whites to somehow ruin the country. Sure, your Jewish friends may be happy, but I bet they’d be happier if that didn’t happen!

I am an active atheist because I don’t enjoy or appreciate the forced collectivism and conformity that comes with all religions. I don’t have to worry about being shot for discussing my ancestry or going to church or temple where metal detectors are required. I live freely and independently in the modern day and I am my own person not the culmination of my supposed ancient ancestors.

Good for you, seriously. But I don’t think I should have to give up traditions that are important to me (and that have been important to my family for generations) in exchange for safety.

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Anonymous wrote:Just read about two lectures by physicians getting cancelled by ATA and APA due to intimidation by anti-Palestinian folks. That's as bad as antisemitism.

How on earth are they remotely the same thing? Getting association affiliation revoked because you have unethical humanitarian views (physicians?!) is the same as being hated for just being?

This is zionist logic. Backwards and insane.

Do you want me to remind you how many people supporting Palestinian human rights have been imprisoned and deported, simply for having those humanitarian beliefs?

This person appears to agree with you? They’re saying doctors being barred from speaking because they spoke up for Palestinian rights is as bad as antisemitism. Not sure how that’s “Zionist logic,” whatever that means.

It was written by a die hard bigot. They make no sense and turn regular words into slurs, especially words related to Jews. But remember, they are only antizionist, not antisemitic. 🙄

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Anonymous wrote:Anecdotally my jewish friends in the US are by far more successful, connected, happy, fulfilled, living their best lives compared to almost all of my non jewish friends. Not only do they have the unconditional support, connections and networking opportunities from their synagogues and other jewish friends, but many have inherited wealth that most could only dream of. None of my non jewish friends attend church, they have no community whatsoever, minimal, if any inheritance and zero connections. Perhaps I only associate with the exceptions but these jewish individuals are not hurting or suffering from anything other than jet lag from their last international holiday. They have a vast network of support that many others lack due to not belonging to a particular religion or group.

I wonder why? Ever wonder how that happens? I mean , we all would love to have a vast network of opportunities and connections and wealth coming from a group we are part of....Hmmmmmm.

This is silly. Yes, Jews as an ethnicity are relatively successful. But we don’t know each other - the heads of business / entertainment happen to be Jewish, but they didn’t get any boost from a network or conspiracy or whatever. It’s just a bunch of individuals. Maybe they have similar values, but that’s it. All the successful Jews are not connected.

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Anonymous wrote:Anecdotally my jewish friends in the US are by far more successful, connected, happy, fulfilled, living their best lives compared to almost all of my non jewish friends. Not only do they have the unconditional support, connections and networking opportunities from their synagogues and other jewish friends, but many have inherited wealth that most could only dream of. None of my non jewish friends attend church, they have no community whatsoever, minimal, if any inheritance and zero connections. Perhaps I only associate with the exceptions but these jewish individuals are not hurting or suffering from anything other than jet lag from their last international holiday. They have a vast network of support that many others lack due to not belonging to a particular religion or group.

Your point is Jews are not hurt by anti-semitism because they are successful? Excellent.

I want to know specifically and individually how each of these seemingly comfortable, very happy, well adjusted, well educated, well traveled, well cared for connected people feel threatened solely for being jewish people.

I’m happy, comfortable, well-educated and well-off, but I still would prefer if I didn’t have to go through a metal detector to go to synagogue. I don’t feel constantly, or even often, threatened for being Jewish, but I think it’s pretty silly to say that if you’re happy in most regards it doesn’t matter if some people hold misguided stereotypes or hatred for you.

Antisemitism isn’t like most other prejudices — being successful actually often makes people hate Jews MORE. It’s a conspiracy theory at heart, that we’re too powerful and run the world. No one is going to deny me a job or a mortgage these days because I’m Jewish, but that doesn’t mean there’s no cost at all to Jew-hatred for the Jews. Just ask the unfortunately large number of Jews who have been shot in recent years at their synagogues — even entirely excluding incidents where the shooters say they were motivated by Israeli atrocities (which I don’t think is really a reasonable thing to exclude, but let’s do it for the sake of argument), you still have neo-Nazis attacking us because they think we’re bringing in non-whites to somehow ruin the country. Sure, your Jewish friends may be happy, but I bet they’d be happier if that didn’t happen!

I am an active atheist because I don’t enjoy or appreciate the forced collectivism and conformity that comes with all religions. I don’t have to worry about being shot for discussing my ancestry or going to church or temple where metal detectors are required. I live freely and independently in the modern day and I am my own person not the culmination of my supposed ancient ancestors.

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Anonymous wrote:Anecdotally my jewish friends in the US are by far more successful, connected, happy, fulfilled, living their best lives compared to almost all of my non jewish friends. Not only do they have the unconditional support, connections and networking opportunities from their synagogues and other jewish friends, but many have inherited wealth that most could only dream of. None of my non jewish friends attend church, they have no community whatsoever, minimal, if any inheritance and zero connections. Perhaps I only associate with the exceptions but these jewish individuals are not hurting or suffering from anything other than jet lag from their last international holiday. They have a vast network of support that many others lack due to not belonging to a particular religion or group.

Your point is Jews are not hurt by anti-semitism because they are successful? Excellent.

I want to know specifically and individually how each of these seemingly comfortable, very happy, well adjusted, well educated, well traveled, well cared for connected people feel threatened solely for being jewish people.

I’m happy, comfortable, well-educated and well-off, but I still would prefer if I didn’t have to go through a metal detector to go to synagogue. I don’t feel constantly, or even often, threatened for being Jewish, but I think it’s pretty silly to say that if you’re happy in most regards it doesn’t matter if some people hold misguided stereotypes or hatred for you.

Antisemitism isn’t like most other prejudices — being successful actually often makes people hate Jews MORE. It’s a conspiracy theory at heart, that we’re too powerful and run the world. No one is going to deny me a job or a mortgage these days because I’m Jewish, but that doesn’t mean there’s no cost at all to Jew-hatred for the Jews. Just ask the unfortunately large number of Jews who have been shot in recent years at their synagogues — even entirely excluding incidents where the shooters say they were motivated by Israeli atrocities (which I don’t think is really a reasonable thing to exclude, but let’s do it for the sake of argument), you still have neo-Nazis attacking us because they think we’re bringing in non-whites to somehow ruin the country. Sure, your Jewish friends may be happy, but I bet they’d be happier if that didn’t happen!

I am an active atheist because I don’t enjoy or appreciate the forced collectivism and conformity that comes with all religions. I don’t have to worry about being shot for discussing my ancestry or going to church or temple where metal detectors are required. I live freely and independently in the modern day and I am my own person not the culmination of my supposed ancient ancestors.

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Anonymous wrote:Anecdotally my jewish friends in the US are by far more successful, connected, happy, fulfilled, living their best lives compared to almost all of my non jewish friends. Not only do they have the unconditional support, connections and networking opportunities from their synagogues and other jewish friends, but many have inherited wealth that most could only dream of. None of my non jewish friends attend church, they have no community whatsoever, minimal, if any inheritance and zero connections. Perhaps I only associate with the exceptions but these jewish individuals are not hurting or suffering from anything other than jet lag from their last international holiday. They have a vast network of support that many others lack due to not belonging to a particular religion or group.

Your point is Jews are not hurt by anti-semitism because they are successful? Excellent.

I want to know specifically and individually how each of these seemingly comfortable, very happy, well adjusted, well educated, well traveled, well cared for connected people feel threatened solely for being jewish people.

I’m happy, comfortable, well-educated and well-off, but I still would prefer if I didn’t have to go through a metal detector to go to synagogue. I don’t feel constantly, or even often, threatened for being Jewish, but I think it’s pretty silly to say that if you’re happy in most regards it doesn’t matter if some people hold misguided stereotypes or hatred for you.

Antisemitism isn’t like most other prejudices — being successful actually often makes people hate Jews MORE. It’s a conspiracy theory at heart, that we’re too powerful and run the world. No one is going to deny me a job or a mortgage these days because I’m Jewish, but that doesn’t mean there’s no cost at all to Jew-hatred for the Jews. Just ask the unfortunately large number of Jews who have been shot in recent years at their synagogues — even entirely excluding incidents where the shooters say they were motivated by Israeli atrocities (which I don’t think is really a reasonable thing to exclude, but let’s do it for the sake of argument), you still have neo-Nazis attacking us because they think we’re bringing in non-whites to somehow ruin the country. Sure, your Jewish friends may be happy, but I bet they’d be happier if that didn’t happen!

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Anonymous wrote:Anecdotally my jewish friends in the US are by far more successful, connected, happy, fulfilled, living their best lives compared to almost all of my non jewish friends. Not only do they have the unconditional support, connections and networking opportunities from their synagogues and other jewish friends, but many have inherited wealth that most could only dream of. None of my non jewish friends attend church, they have no community whatsoever, minimal, if any inheritance and zero connections. Perhaps I only associate with the exceptions but these jewish individuals are not hurting or suffering from anything other than jet lag from their last international holiday. They have a vast network of support that many others lack due to not belonging to a particular religion or group.

Your point is Jews are not hurt by anti-semitism because they are successful? Excellent.

I want to know specifically and individually how each of these seemingly comfortable, very happy, well adjusted, well educated, well traveled, well cared for connected people feel threatened solely for being jewish people.

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Anonymous wrote:Just read about two lectures by physicians getting cancelled by ATA and APA due to intimidation by anti-Palestinian folks. That's as bad as antisemitism.

Most supporters of Israel (and Israelis) are not “anti-Palestinian” - that concept doesn’t really exist. They get the situation and know that Gaza is run by a terrorist group that exists to see the destruction of Israel. They are for the end of Hamas.

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Anonymous wrote:Anecdotally my jewish friends in the US are by far more successful, connected, happy, fulfilled, living their best lives compared to almost all of my non jewish friends. Not only do they have the unconditional support, connections and networking opportunities from their synagogues and other jewish friends, but many have inherited wealth that most could only dream of. None of my non jewish friends attend church, they have no community whatsoever, minimal, if any inheritance and zero connections. Perhaps I only associate with the exceptions but these jewish individuals are not hurting or suffering from anything other than jet lag from their last international holiday. They have a vast network of support that many others lack due to not belonging to a particular religion or group.

I wonder why? Ever wonder how that happens? I mean , we all would love to have a vast network of opportunities and connections and wealth coming from a group we are part of....Hmmmmmm.

This is silly. Yes, Jews as an ethnicity are relatively successful. But we don’t know each other - the heads of business / entertainment happen to be Jewish, but they didn’t get any boost from a network or conspiracy or whatever. It’s just a bunch of individuals. Maybe they have similar values, but that’s it. All the successful Jews are not connected.

Gaslight level 10/10. I mean c'mon now.

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Anonymous wrote:Anecdotally my jewish friends in the US are by far more successful, connected, happy, fulfilled, living their best lives compared to almost all of my non jewish friends. Not only do they have the unconditional support, connections and networking opportunities from their synagogues and other jewish friends, but many have inherited wealth that most could only dream of. None of my non jewish friends attend church, they have no community whatsoever, minimal, if any inheritance and zero connections. Perhaps I only associate with the exceptions but these jewish individuals are not hurting or suffering from anything other than jet lag from their last international holiday. They have a vast network of support that many others lack due to not belonging to a particular religion or group.

I wonder why? Ever wonder how that happens? I mean , we all would love to have a vast network of opportunities and connections and wealth coming from a group we are part of....Hmmmmmm.

This is silly. Yes, Jews as an ethnicity are relatively successful. But we don’t know each other - the heads of business / entertainment happen to be Jewish, but they didn’t get any boost from a network or conspiracy or whatever. It’s just a bunch of individuals. Maybe they have similar values, but that’s it. All the successful Jews are not connected.

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Anonymous wrote:Anecdotally my jewish friends in the US are by far more successful, connected, happy, fulfilled, living their best lives compared to almost all of my non jewish friends. Not only do they have the unconditional support, connections and networking opportunities from their synagogues and other jewish friends, but many have inherited wealth that most could only dream of. None of my non jewish friends attend church, they have no community whatsoever, minimal, if any inheritance and zero connections. Perhaps I only associate with the exceptions but these jewish individuals are not hurting or suffering from anything other than jet lag from their last international holiday. They have a vast network of support that many others lack due to not belonging to a particular religion or group.

I wonder why? Ever wonder how that happens? I mean , we all would love to have a vast network of opportunities and connections and wealth coming from a group we are part of....Hmmmmmm.

This is silly. Yes, Jews as an ethnicity are relatively successful. But we don’t know each other - the heads of business / entertainment happen to be Jewish, but they didn’t get any boost from a network or conspiracy or whatever. It’s just a bunch of individuals. Maybe they have similar values, but that’s it. All the successful Jews are not connected.