Anonymous wrote:People who say they haven't been to China, it is actually ridiculously clean. And those who say Southeast Asia, have you been to Singapore? You get whipped for spitting out gum on the street.

China's problem is pollution, the city streets are actually very clean because there are people cleaning AND watching you all the time. The down side is big brother.

There are some places listed in this thread that I didn’t find particularly gross but maybe that’s just the parts I visited.

I thought Sri Lanka was fine but I didn’t spend time in Colombo. I also thought Jakarta and Bali were fine.

Mumbai and whatever smaller cities I was in ranks as the worst. Smaller cities in Vietnam and Cambodia. Also parts of China outside the tier 1 cities.

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Anonymous wrote:San Francisco. Never been in a city where I saw so much human excrement as that. I saw a PP mention Naples. I lived there for 2 years. It had its trash piles, but not really that bad. San Francisco grossed me out.

This is heartbreaking. I remember how 25 years ago San Francisco was a jewel.

It still is a shockingly beautiful place, almost surreally so. But I've traveled many places and there's only two cities in the world where someone has crapped on the sidewalk right in front of me: NYC and SF.

Yea right. I live in the Bay Area and go into SF at least twice a month and have never seen anyone crapping on the sidewalk, SF is very clean and surprisingly safe for a large city.

I believe them. I lived in Seattle and I saw a homeless man taking a dump in my neighbor's yard in broad daylight.

Another Seattle person here. Lots of poop incidents and more litter than I’ve seen since I was a small child. The littering culture here is so weird! How is this still a thing?

When I moved here from NYC I thought it would be cleaner (and in the mountains and suburbs it generally is) but it really isn’t. NYC might get gross on trash day but shopkeepers and supers and maintenance people are on the sidewalks every day sweeping and hosing them off and scrubbing things down. And there are trash cans everywhere so people don’t litter in the same way. When I lived in Baltimore in a bad neighborhood my neighbors were out there scrubbing their stoops every day. Same in not-nice urban New Jersey.

Seattle is grimy and dirty and I’ve walked past the same filth and litter piles for weeks and weeks outside nice restaurants and shops.

I don’t understand why the culture of caring for the outside of your property doesn’t exist here.

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Anonymous wrote:Pp again - when I read the next door "horror" stories about people not picking up their dogs poop, I wonder what the complainant would do in India. They would not last a day there.

As an Indian, I wonder which other country is as bad as ours. Much of Africa is poor but does poor = dirty, or do they keep their country clean?

We definitely need laws like Singapore does. I hope Modi does something.

I haven’t been so can’t give any insight on the effectiveness, but I know Rwanda has a monthly community clean up day and the entire country has to clean.

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2018/07/18/628364015/how-rwanda-tidied-up-its-streets-and-the-rest-of-the-country-too

Is the point of this subconversation in this thread to desperately search for the "truth" to confirm that "well the black are worse as we always know!"

Anonymous wrote:Pp again - when I read the next door "horror" stories about people not picking up their dogs poop, I wonder what the complainant would do in India. They would not last a day there.

As an Indian, I wonder which other country is as bad as ours. Much of Africa is poor but does poor = dirty, or do they keep their country clean?

We definitely need laws like Singapore does. I hope Modi does something.

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Anonymous wrote:Easily Delhi.

Definitely Delhi.

Even in India, there's no competition.

Delhi is definitely terrible but Jaipur could compete.
India provides lots of competition.

I was going to say Jaipur as well. Delhi wasn’t nearly as bad. But we haven’t been to Jaipur in 20 years - I heard it’s better now.

The Skid Row portion of Los Angeles (not "Near Skid Row" but actual Skid Row).

Anonymous wrote:Pp again - when I read the next door "horror" stories about people not picking up their dogs poop, I wonder what the complainant would do in India. They would not last a day there.

As an Indian, I wonder which other country is as bad as ours. Much of Africa is poor but does poor = dirty, or do they keep their country clean?

We definitely need laws like Singapore does. I hope Modi does something.

I haven’t been so can’t give any insight on the effectiveness, but I know Rwanda has a monthly community clean up day and the entire country has to clean.

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2018/07/18/628364015/how-rwanda-tidied-up-its-streets-and-the-rest-of-the-country-too

San Fran, LA and Paris

Pp again - when I read the next door "horror" stories about people not picking up their dogs poop, I wonder what the complainant would do in India. They would not last a day there.

As an Indian, I wonder which other country is as bad as ours. Much of Africa is poor but does poor = dirty, or do they keep their country clean?

We definitely need laws like Singapore does. I hope Modi does something.

Anonymous wrote:It all comes down do how strong the waste and sanitation management system is in that city or country. It is impossible to be clean if there is nowhere for the trash to go.

India is a prime example. The middle class and wealthy keep their homes clean and their servants throw the trash on the street.

My kids asked the grandparents where to put the candy wrappers when we were outside and they said just throw it away. The city does not have enough dumpsters and people throw things around.

It all comes down do how strong the waste and sanitation management system is in that city or country. It is impossible to be clean if there is nowhere for the trash to go.

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Anonymous wrote:India.

Paris

Rome

Lisbon

Hospital-grade sterile compared to India.

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I vote for Varanasi, because of all the random corpses.

Human corpses?? Please explain.

DP. Varanasi is a city on the Ganges. It's a very holy city in India and people go there to die. When you go down to the ghats, people are being cremated all day long. These are funeral pyres. Basically, you will smell like bbq when you are on the river in Varanasi. Corpses are being burned 24/7. Not for everyone. But besides all the dead human bodies, Varanasi is alright. Big destination for Buddhists too since the Bodhi Tree is nearby. I would not put Varanasi on a list of dirty cities. Different cultures deal with death differently. India is absolutely filthy, but there is nothing remarkable about Varanasi, except all the dead people being burned next to the river.

I found Copenhagen to be much grittier than expected. I find spray paint and strip clubs and porn shops more annoying than dealing with death. The Danes need to get it together.

People who can’t afford cremation will also just dump the bodies in the river.

You’ll also see bodies being taken down the narrow streets (and people who are very ill on stretchers that have come there to die) and have to be careful to move aside for them.

India. But also New Orleans.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not well traveled but of the cities that I've seen I'd have to say the New Orleans was the dirtiest. We saw human poop on the sidewalk and the individual who was presumably responsible for taking a dump on the sidewalk was passed out nearby taking a nap.

Saw that in San Francisco too

I saw poop in the Paris Metro.