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Anonymous wrote:We always called it mop water or mousy blonde

I thought mousy was warm undertones, like blonde and brown mixed. Whereas dishwater is cool undertones, blonde and gray.

Mousy means messy, not a color. Unkempt hair in need of taming.

This is incorrect. A simple google result gives:

Mousy is a drab, pale, or dull light brown/greyish hair color. It is commonly used to describe a neutral, non-descript shade that resembles a mouse's fur.

Color Profile: It is often described as a light, slightly cool-toned brown or a "dirty blonde".

Nobody with shiny healthy brown hair ever gets called mousy.

If it's light brownish - it can absolutely be called mousy brown.

Only if it’s messy, undone, and dirty looking.

You've seriously never heard of the expression "mousy brown"? Good grief.

https://www.madison-reed.com/blog/the-comeback-of-mousy-brown-hair
https://therighthairstyles.com/mousy-brown-hair/
https://doseofhairstyles.com/mousy-brown-hair/

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Anonymous wrote:Don't be mean to ditchwater, please. Especially since I'll bet you're been pronouncing Thoreau wrong all these years (turns out it's pronounce "Thorough")

I pegged ditchwater poster to the south, like Georgia, although red clays are found elsewhere (and apparently under most of the Pacific) but she could be from many other parts of the world. And it could be that there's a hyper-local usage.

The summer after high school I was a waitress in my grandparents' small rural town, spent the summer at their house. My boss was a very dumb person. He and the cook had a long argument one slow afternoon because he insisted the machine that played records if you put in a quarter was a jute box. Based on Google, it's a more common mistake to say jute box than to say ditchwater blond. I found exactly one Google reference where someone asked if it was ditchwater or dishwater, and they were actually talking about the color of their guitar. Therefore PP Ditchwater's mistake (in terms of common usage) is unique enough to be praiseworthy IMO, and good for PP for standing up for herself.

My best friend in college was the daughter of scientists. When we did fruit fly experiments in biology we had to go in every 6 hours to knock out our flies with ether to make sure any females were virgins. She honestly thought this was not to control preproductive data but because non virgin fruit flies were considered immoral sluts and it offended her feminist sensibilities.

What in the world? How have you been pronouncing Thoreau all these years? I've never heard it pronounced incorrectly.

I suppose the French way, To-ro. French doesn't have ð.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't be mean to ditchwater, please. Especially since I'll bet you're been pronouncing Thoreau wrong all these years (turns out it's pronounce "Thorough")

I pegged ditchwater poster to the south, like Georgia, although red clays are found elsewhere (and apparently under most of the Pacific) but she could be from many other parts of the world. And it could be that there's a hyper-local usage.

The summer after high school I was a waitress in my grandparents' small rural town, spent the summer at their house. My boss was a very dumb person. He and the cook had a long argument one slow afternoon because he insisted the machine that played records if you put in a quarter was a jute box. Based on Google, it's a more common mistake to say jute box than to say ditchwater blond. I found exactly one Google reference where someone asked if it was ditchwater or dishwater, and they were actually talking about the color of their guitar. Therefore PP Ditchwater's mistake (in terms of common usage) is unique enough to be praiseworthy IMO, and good for PP for standing up for herself.

My best friend in college was the daughter of scientists. When we did fruit fly experiments in biology we had to go in every 6 hours to knock out our flies with ether to make sure any females were virgins. She honestly thought this was not to control preproductive data but because non virgin fruit flies were considered immoral sluts and it offended her feminist sensibilities.

What in the world? How have you been pronouncing Thoreau all these years? I've never heard it pronounced incorrectly.

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Anonymous wrote:My grandmother was a DAR, went to finishing school and used the term dishwater blond.

You must be a boomer like me to know all those terms.

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Anonymous wrote:We always called it mop water or mousy blonde

I thought mousy was warm undertones, like blonde and brown mixed. Whereas dishwater is cool undertones, blonde and gray.

Mousy means messy, not a color. Unkempt hair in need of taming.

DP. It can, but mousy blonde/brown is also a hair color descriptor.

Dishwater blonde here. I have always thought of "mousy" as basically the brown hair equivalent of dishwater blonde. But in brown, not blonde.

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter thought the name Penelope was pronounced Pen-uh-lope until sixth grade. She was absolutely shocked when she learned the correct pronunciation while watching an old movie, I think Pippi Longstocking or Dr. Dolittle. I digress. The point is, being wrong about something doesn't make it a thing. Pen-uh-lope is not a thing.
Dishwater is a thing
Ditchwater is not a thing

Me too!! For years that's how I pronounced Penelope. Like cantaloupe.

I texted daughter to let her know their were others of her kind 😂

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Anonymous wrote:We always called it mop water or mousy blonde

I thought mousy was warm undertones, like blonde and brown mixed. Whereas dishwater is cool undertones, blonde and gray.

Mousy means messy, not a color. Unkempt hair in need of taming.

This is incorrect. A simple google result gives:

Mousy is a drab, pale, or dull light brown/greyish hair color. It is commonly used to describe a neutral, non-descript shade that resembles a mouse's fur.

Color Profile: It is often described as a light, slightly cool-toned brown or a "dirty blonde".

Nobody with shiny healthy brown hair ever gets called mousy.

If it's light brownish - it can absolutely be called mousy brown.

Only if it’s messy, undone, and dirty looking.

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Anonymous wrote:The stupid is soooooooooooo deep here.


It’s not “dishwater” blonde.


It’s DITCHWATER blonde.


DITCH. Not “dish”.




FFS, didn’t any of you watch reruns of “I Love Lucy”?


And dishwater is gray. Ditchwater is sorta reddish because of red clay.


Y’all don’t do dishes OR get out much.

Soooooooooo

According to google:

The phrase "middle-aged dishwater blonde" comes from the I Love Lucy episode "Lucy and John Wayne" (Season 5, Episode 1). A newspaper article describes Lucy and Ethel—after they steal John Wayne's footprints—as "a middle-aged dishwater blonde" (Ethel) and a "wild-eyed, frowzy redhead"

www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1599583287083110&vanity=ilovelucyscenes

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Anonymous wrote:Olive skin is a racist term.

It is offensive for "white" people to describe other people as "olive" or "almond-eyed. "

What??? Olive skinned people are white. Olive skin is a trait where white people tan nicely and don’t have pink undertones. Like Italians.

I’m pale but have olive undertones. No one would call me olive skinned though since I’m so pale.

Exactly.

Skin undertones are:

Blue (get your circulation checked, unless you are deep Kentucky inbred)

Ash

Red

Pink

Coral

Peach

Yellow

Olive/green

All of these except for blue can be seen in various races, while some trend to specific ethnic backgrounds.

- In my job I do a lot of pigment mixing to match skin tones. People are not white, tan, brown or black. The undertones are what give humans our vibrancy and richness. These undertones are critical if you want to match things like make up, or in the old days pantyhose. You can have a dark skinned, almost black woman who has pink undertones, a very pale white woman with yellow undertones, and an asian woman with peach undertones, which completely defies the cultural tropes from the last century regarding associating colors with specific groups.

Olive is an undertone. Not a racial slur.

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This is vital for skin matching some prosthetics as well. The people calling this all racist can just opt out of colors completely and sport smurf-blue or alien green makeup. We don't care.

Ironically, as someone pink and red undertones in my skin, I actually wear "green" makeup because it counteracts the ruddiness in my skin. If someone with olive tone skin used the same makeup, they would look terrible! This is why it's helpful to understand your undertones.

Yep, one should wear complimentary colors. As an olive undertone person, I don't look good in green, yellow or blue, but I love the color green and blue. I look best in red/orange/browns.

DP. Now see, this is interesting to me as a fellow (light) olive undertone person. I have a cool winter complexion and look *horribly* sallow in yellow, orange, or beige." I look best in blues, purples, jewel colors. I can't wear gold jewelry, only silver/platinum. Make it make sense!

Anonymous wrote:Don't be mean to ditchwater, please. Especially since I'll bet you're been pronouncing Thoreau wrong all these years (turns out it's pronounce "Thorough")

I pegged ditchwater poster to the south, like Georgia, although red clays are found elsewhere (and apparently under most of the Pacific) but she could be from many other parts of the world. And it could be that there's a hyper-local usage.

The summer after high school I was a waitress in my grandparents' small rural town, spent the summer at their house. My boss was a very dumb person. He and the cook had a long argument one slow afternoon because he insisted the machine that played records if you put in a quarter was a jute box. Based on Google, it's a more common mistake to say jute box than to say ditchwater blond. I found exactly one Google reference where someone asked if it was ditchwater or dishwater, and they were actually talking about the color of their guitar. Therefore PP Ditchwater's mistake (in terms of common usage) is unique enough to be praiseworthy IMO, and good for PP for standing up for herself.

My best friend in college was the daughter of scientists. When we did fruit fly experiments in biology we had to go in every 6 hours to knock out our flies with ether to make sure any females were virgins. She honestly thought this was not to control preproductive data but because non virgin fruit flies were considered immoral sluts and it offended her feminist sensibilities.

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Anonymous wrote:We always called it mop water or mousy blonde

I thought mousy was warm undertones, like blonde and brown mixed. Whereas dishwater is cool undertones, blonde and gray.

Mousy means messy, not a color. Unkempt hair in need of taming.

DP. It can, but mousy blonde/brown is also a hair color descriptor.

Dishwater blonde here. I have always thought of "mousy" as basically the brown hair equivalent of dishwater blonde. But in brown, not blonde.

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Anonymous wrote:The stupid is soooooooooooo deep here.


It’s not “dishwater” blonde.


It’s DITCHWATER blonde.


DITCH. Not “dish”.




FFS, didn’t any of you watch reruns of “I Love Lucy”?


And dishwater is gray. Ditchwater is sorta reddish because of red clay.


Y’all don’t do dishes OR get out much.

Soooooooooo

According to google:

The phrase "middle-aged dishwater blonde" comes from the I Love Lucy episode "Lucy and John Wayne" (Season 5, Episode 1). A newspaper article describes Lucy and Ethel—after they steal John Wayne's footprints—as "a middle-aged dishwater blonde" (Ethel) and a "wild-eyed, frowzy redhead"

www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1599583287083110&vanity=ilovelucyscenes

Frowzy? There's a word not in common use. It needs to make a comeback.

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Anonymous wrote:We always called it mop water or mousy blonde

I thought mousy was warm undertones, like blonde and brown mixed. Whereas dishwater is cool undertones, blonde and gray.

Mousy means messy, not a color. Unkempt hair in need of taming.

DP. It can, but mousy blonde/brown is also a hair color descriptor.

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Anonymous wrote:The stupid is soooooooooooo deep here.


It’s not “dishwater” blonde.


It’s DITCHWATER blonde.


DITCH. Not “dish”.




FFS, didn’t any of you watch reruns of “I Love Lucy”?


And dishwater is gray. Ditchwater is sorta reddish because of red clay.


Y’all don’t do dishes OR get out much.

Clay can be red, or yellow, or white, or dark gray, or bluish.

https://greensdictofslang.com/entry/mo4nmfa

dishwater blond(e) (n.)
(US) a woman, or man, with ash-blonde hair.

1931 [US] C. Martinez ‘Gats in the Hat’ in Gun Molls Sept. 🌐 ‘It was that dish-water blonde!’ cried Carmen suddenly.
1958 [US] E. Gilbert Vice Trap 39: She was a dishwater blonde, with these cow eyes, but a sexy mouth.
1958 [US] W. Motley Let No Man Write My Epitaph (1960) 304: He was quite a big guy, tall, a dishwater blond.
2012 [US] M. McBride Frank Sinatra in a Blender [ebook] He pointed with an ink pen to a dishwater blonde on the floor.
2012 [Aus] A. Nette ‘Chasing Atlantis’ in Crime Factory: Hard Labour [ebook] A dishwater blonde in her forties, tonight she wore black cotton pants.
2023 [Aus] A. Nette Orphan Road 72: [A] dishwater blonde in khaki camouflage pants and a blue T-shirt.