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Anonymous wrote:Jeff Pearlman makes a really good point that if he happened to sit next to Mike Vrabel in a hot tub, nobody would care.

https://awfulannouncing.com/nfl/jeff-pearlman-dianna-russini-mike-vrabel-double-standard.html

I don't think that's a good point at all. (1) If two men were in that situation, especially in the holding hands picture, there would be speculation about their sexuality. But that's really missing the point, which is that (2) if a male reporter were in that situation with a female athlete or coach, then people would care.

I do think people care more about what Dianna did than what Mike did, and that is the double standard here, not the fact that a female reporter with a male coach is getting more heat than a male reporter with a male coach would.

I think it's their jobs and the potential for the relationship to impact that. A journalist coverage of a person they are having a relationship with is going to be different. If it was a male reporter and a female athlete or coach, it would deservedly get attention.

I asked earlier in the thread, but I don't believe I saw an answer. How does Mike dating the reporter affect his professional judgment. I am seriously asking. I can see why an indepdent reporter should not sleep someone they report on. But what's the reverse?

It shows he has poor judgment. Not clever enough to avoid getting caught is the lowest bar. Brings the wrong kind of media attention/distracts from his team is a more common complaint. Depending on your viewpoint, you could consider him be a personally unethical person and there's a blurry line between personal and professional. For example, sometimes celebrities get fired for violating a morality clause. If he gets fired, that has a professional and personal impact on the athletes he mentored and recruited. Recruiting is seen as a personal relationship.

Look at the post above. Because there's bad publicity, he won't be coming to a press conference. So regardless of what went on, he's skipping a work function due to poor optics caused by poor judgment. So that's just the beginning. He also contributed to a situation in which a friend (or whatever) may lose professional opportunities. If you considered things totally above board and what went on to be just networking (lol), dude is bad at networking.

Yes, it shows poor ethical judgement on his part. The NFL has worked hard to get and keep female fans. A head coach cheating publicly on his wife is not attractive behavior to most women.

Most women who are really into the NFL are into these men. They likely see it as a hall pass situation. It is not going to make them lose female fans. GTFO.

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Anonymous wrote:We had a handful of wannabe sports reporters gals in my sorority. Literally all of them were hyper promiscuous. I mean slept with like the entire hockey or basketball team. Most of the football team. Baseball team. You name it. Shameless cleat chasers.

I mean. Good for her? She was able to have fun experiences with hot, athletic men. Honestly it sounds like you're jealous.

Because she’s using sex to advance in her job, and also cheating on her spouse. What does he gain from this? She clearly wants the scoop.

This wouldn't be possible if the men weren't willing to cheat/could keep it in their pants. Once again, why does all responsibility lie on the woman to maintain propriety? Hey jocks, if a female reporter invites you to her hotel room: Just Say No.

The problem is she won’t be taken seriously in her field if she’s sleeping with everyone to get the scoop. So good for her to lose the respect of her colleagues, readers, family and peers? She’s a failure professionally and personally. He is just failing on a personal level.

Having affairs has probably not hurt her career at all. This is a different playing field, literally.

"Probably not" ok. Time will tell!

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Anonymous wrote:We had a handful of wannabe sports reporters gals in my sorority. Literally all of them were hyper promiscuous. I mean slept with like the entire hockey or basketball team. Most of the football team. Baseball team. You name it. Shameless cleat chasers.

I mean. Good for her? She was able to have fun experiences with hot, athletic men. Honestly it sounds like you're jealous.

Because she’s using sex to advance in her job, and also cheating on her spouse. What does he gain from this? She clearly wants the scoop.

This wouldn't be possible if the men weren't willing to cheat/could keep it in their pants. Once again, why does all responsibility lie on the woman to maintain propriety? Hey jocks, if a female reporter invites you to her hotel room: Just Say No.

The problem is she won’t be taken seriously in her field if she’s sleeping with everyone to get the scoop. So good for her to lose the respect of her colleagues, readers, family and peers? She’s a failure professionally and personally. He is just failing on a personal level.

Having affairs has probably not hurt her career at all. This is a different playing field, literally.

Sideline reporters are all glorified prostitutes. Everyone knows it. Same with cable news whores all the on air and executive old men trade to each other.

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Anonymous wrote:Jeff Pearlman makes a really good point that if he happened to sit next to Mike Vrabel in a hot tub, nobody would care.

https://awfulannouncing.com/nfl/jeff-pearlman-dianna-russini-mike-vrabel-double-standard.html

I don't think that's a good point at all. (1) If two men were in that situation, especially in the holding hands picture, there would be speculation about their sexuality. But that's really missing the point, which is that (2) if a male reporter were in that situation with a female athlete or coach, then people would care.

I do think people care more about what Dianna did than what Mike did, and that is the double standard here, not the fact that a female reporter with a male coach is getting more heat than a male reporter with a male coach would.

I think it's their jobs and the potential for the relationship to impact that. A journalist coverage of a person they are having a relationship with is going to be different. If it was a male reporter and a female athlete or coach, it would deservedly get attention.

I asked earlier in the thread, but I don't believe I saw an answer. How does Mike dating the reporter affect his professional judgment. I am seriously asking. I can see why an indepdent reporter should not sleep someone they report on. But what's the reverse?

It shows he has poor judgment. Not clever enough to avoid getting caught is the lowest bar. Brings the wrong kind of media attention/distracts from his team is a more common complaint. Depending on your viewpoint, you could consider him be a personally unethical person and there's a blurry line between personal and professional. For example, sometimes celebrities get fired for violating a morality clause. If he gets fired, that has a professional and personal impact on the athletes he mentored and recruited. Recruiting is seen as a personal relationship.

Look at the post above. Because there's bad publicity, he won't be coming to a press conference. So regardless of what went on, he's skipping a work function due to poor optics caused by poor judgment. So that's just the beginning. He also contributed to a situation in which a friend (or whatever) may lose professional opportunities. If you considered things totally above board and what went on to be just networking (lol), dude is bad at networking.

Yes, it shows poor ethical judgement on his part. The NFL has worked hard to get and keep female fans. A head coach cheating publicly on his wife is not attractive behavior to most women.

No woman is watching for the wholesomeness of the players or coaches. Get real. Have you ever watched an NFL game?

Women being into football is phony woke nonsense. I don’t know a single woman in real life who is genuinely into football. Going to games, doing the attention-seeking dress up tailgating entertainment spread for social media photos? Sure. Actually caring about football? Not a chance. Women don’t play youth football, there’s no foundational reason for them to understand the game or care.

Anonymous wrote:She used to be a sports reporter for local nbc channel (channel 4). She got into a trouble many years ago but appears that didn’t hurt her career.

Yeah, she and Britt McHenry had that fight over McVay. And I think the GM’s wife called her out for trading … favors for access, so her reputation was pretty well established before this.

^ and it is clear you don’t watch football

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Anonymous wrote:Jeff Pearlman makes a really good point that if he happened to sit next to Mike Vrabel in a hot tub, nobody would care.

https://awfulannouncing.com/nfl/jeff-pearlman-dianna-russini-mike-vrabel-double-standard.html

I don't think that's a good point at all. (1) If two men were in that situation, especially in the holding hands picture, there would be speculation about their sexuality. But that's really missing the point, which is that (2) if a male reporter were in that situation with a female athlete or coach, then people would care.

I do think people care more about what Dianna did than what Mike did, and that is the double standard here, not the fact that a female reporter with a male coach is getting more heat than a male reporter with a male coach would.

I think it's their jobs and the potential for the relationship to impact that. A journalist coverage of a person they are having a relationship with is going to be different. If it was a male reporter and a female athlete or coach, it would deservedly get attention.

I asked earlier in the thread, but I don't believe I saw an answer. How does Mike dating the reporter affect his professional judgment. I am seriously asking. I can see why an indepdent reporter should not sleep someone they report on. But what's the reverse?

It shows he has poor judgment. Not clever enough to avoid getting caught is the lowest bar. Brings the wrong kind of media attention/distracts from his team is a more common complaint. Depending on your viewpoint, you could consider him be a personally unethical person and there's a blurry line between personal and professional. For example, sometimes celebrities get fired for violating a morality clause. If he gets fired, that has a professional and personal impact on the athletes he mentored and recruited. Recruiting is seen as a personal relationship.

Look at the post above. Because there's bad publicity, he won't be coming to a press conference. So regardless of what went on, he's skipping a work function due to poor optics caused by poor judgment. So that's just the beginning. He also contributed to a situation in which a friend (or whatever) may lose professional opportunities. If you considered things totally above board and what went on to be just networking (lol), dude is bad at networking.

Yes, it shows poor ethical judgement on his part. The NFL has worked hard to get and keep female fans. A head coach cheating publicly on his wife is not attractive behavior to most women.

No woman is watching for the wholesomeness of the players or coaches. Get real. Have you ever watched an NFL game?

You’re the football bashing poster. You posted already. Move on

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Anonymous wrote:Jeff Pearlman makes a really good point that if he happened to sit next to Mike Vrabel in a hot tub, nobody would care.

https://awfulannouncing.com/nfl/jeff-pearlman-dianna-russini-mike-vrabel-double-standard.html

I don't think that's a good point at all. (1) If two men were in that situation, especially in the holding hands picture, there would be speculation about their sexuality. But that's really missing the point, which is that (2) if a male reporter were in that situation with a female athlete or coach, then people would care.

I do think people care more about what Dianna did than what Mike did, and that is the double standard here, not the fact that a female reporter with a male coach is getting more heat than a male reporter with a male coach would.

I think it's their jobs and the potential for the relationship to impact that. A journalist coverage of a person they are having a relationship with is going to be different. If it was a male reporter and a female athlete or coach, it would deservedly get attention.

I asked earlier in the thread, but I don't believe I saw an answer. How does Mike dating the reporter affect his professional judgment. I am seriously asking. I can see why an indepdent reporter should not sleep someone they report on. But what's the reverse?

It shows he has poor judgment. Not clever enough to avoid getting caught is the lowest bar. Brings the wrong kind of media attention/distracts from his team is a more common complaint. Depending on your viewpoint, you could consider him be a personally unethical person and there's a blurry line between personal and professional. For example, sometimes celebrities get fired for violating a morality clause. If he gets fired, that has a professional and personal impact on the athletes he mentored and recruited. Recruiting is seen as a personal relationship.

Look at the post above. Because there's bad publicity, he won't be coming to a press conference. So regardless of what went on, he's skipping a work function due to poor optics caused by poor judgment. So that's just the beginning. He also contributed to a situation in which a friend (or whatever) may lose professional opportunities. If you considered things totally above board and what went on to be just networking (lol), dude is bad at networking.

Yes, it shows poor ethical judgement on his part. The NFL has worked hard to get and keep female fans. A head coach cheating publicly on his wife is not attractive behavior to most women.

No woman is watching for the wholesomeness of the players or coaches. Get real. Have you ever watched an NFL game?

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Anonymous wrote:Jeff Pearlman makes a really good point that if he happened to sit next to Mike Vrabel in a hot tub, nobody would care.

https://awfulannouncing.com/nfl/jeff-pearlman-dianna-russini-mike-vrabel-double-standard.html

I don't think that's a good point at all. (1) If two men were in that situation, especially in the holding hands picture, there would be speculation about their sexuality. But that's really missing the point, which is that (2) if a male reporter were in that situation with a female athlete or coach, then people would care.

I do think people care more about what Dianna did than what Mike did, and that is the double standard here, not the fact that a female reporter with a male coach is getting more heat than a male reporter with a male coach would.

I think it's their jobs and the potential for the relationship to impact that. A journalist coverage of a person they are having a relationship with is going to be different. If it was a male reporter and a female athlete or coach, it would deservedly get attention.

I asked earlier in the thread, but I don't believe I saw an answer. How does Mike dating the reporter affect his professional judgment. I am seriously asking. I can see why an indepdent reporter should not sleep someone they report on. But what's the reverse?

Professional judgment like the ability to do his job? When you're banging the reporter who is standing on the sidelines, I'd think it's not a stretch to say that that could impact your ability to coach that game since you're doing it in secret and your spouses are also possibly in attendance. It impacts her ability to do her job more.

But it goes beyond that - when you're a public figure, people expect you to not do things like cheat on your spouse for the world to see. I'm not going to stop going to my dentist because he banged a nurse, but I'm going to think less of him. As a coach, it distracts from your team, which is a crappy thing to do.

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Anonymous wrote:This is super viral. Would you be okay with your husband at a hotel behaving like this? They claim nothing happened.

The two in question deny any affair and her NY Times bosses back up her denial. They claim they were at the ritzy $2,500 night couple's resort in Arizona with a group of friends. Sleuths have gone back and clipped the reporter’s TV hits and she’s been publicly ridiculing her husband going back years. Years ago she was accused of sleeping with a married Washington Commanders executive for scoops, by his wife.

The hug in that picture looks awkward, not intimate. I have plenty of male friends and I could envision pictures of me with them like this and it would mean nothing except that our spouses were probably at the bar or back in the rooms or off playing golf.

I don’t hug my male friends and they don’t hug each other. All of my friends are male.

I don't know if you're male or female, but I'm the PP and I'm a female. I absolutely hug my male friends. My husband also hugs his male friends. And his female friends.

Do you also hang out alone with them in pools and hot tubs?

On private suite rooftops? No, I don't. On vacation if there are a bunch of us there? Yes.

I brought this up with a couple we just vacationed with over spring break (our daughters are friends and it was a family trip). I asked the husband if he would be in the hot tub (which were located throughout the resort and always near a pool/bar, so not private) with just me if his wife and my husband were up in the rooms or somewhere else. He said absolutely not because of the optics. His wife and my husband said they wouldn't care. I also wouldn't care, but to each their own.

I grew up in CA and find that I am far more laid back than some of my friends. I'm also 10 years younger than the couple we were with (they had their children much later in life). Anyway, I thought it was illuminating because I wouldn't really care what someone walking by thought (i.e. I know nothing is going on, so why would care if someone else thought that?) as long as my husband wasn't bothered. I think you'd have to be pretty stupid to do something in a public hot tub when your spouses are somewhere close by so to me it would have to be innocent but I respect him a lot and his answer was no so I'm pondering it now.

Anyway, we have a large friend group and we do vacation together and one time a husband and I were at the pool together swimming and then sat on the edge and chatted. I didn't think anything of it because we've been friends for ages and we were in a public place.

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Anonymous wrote:Jeff Pearlman makes a really good point that if he happened to sit next to Mike Vrabel in a hot tub, nobody would care.

https://awfulannouncing.com/nfl/jeff-pearlman-dianna-russini-mike-vrabel-double-standard.html

I don't think that's a good point at all. (1) If two men were in that situation, especially in the holding hands picture, there would be speculation about their sexuality. But that's really missing the point, which is that (2) if a male reporter were in that situation with a female athlete or coach, then people would care.

I do think people care more about what Dianna did than what Mike did, and that is the double standard here, not the fact that a female reporter with a male coach is getting more heat than a male reporter with a male coach would.

I think it's their jobs and the potential for the relationship to impact that. A journalist coverage of a person they are having a relationship with is going to be different. If it was a male reporter and a female athlete or coach, it would deservedly get attention.

I asked earlier in the thread, but I don't believe I saw an answer. How does Mike dating the reporter affect his professional judgment. I am seriously asking. I can see why an indepdent reporter should not sleep someone they report on. But what's the reverse?

It shows he has poor judgment. Not clever enough to avoid getting caught is the lowest bar. Brings the wrong kind of media attention/distracts from his team is a more common complaint. Depending on your viewpoint, you could consider him be a personally unethical person and there's a blurry line between personal and professional. For example, sometimes celebrities get fired for violating a morality clause. If he gets fired, that has a professional and personal impact on the athletes he mentored and recruited. Recruiting is seen as a personal relationship.

Look at the post above. Because there's bad publicity, he won't be coming to a press conference. So regardless of what went on, he's skipping a work function due to poor optics caused by poor judgment. So that's just the beginning. He also contributed to a situation in which a friend (or whatever) may lose professional opportunities. If you considered things totally above board and what went on to be just networking (lol), dude is bad at networking.

Yes, it shows poor ethical judgement on his part. The NFL has worked hard to get and keep female fans. A head coach cheating publicly on his wife is not attractive behavior to most women.

No woman who currently watches the NFL is going to stop watching the NFL because of this. If they will watch wife-beating, girlfriend-beating players, I think ONE cheating coach won't push them over the edge.

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Anonymous wrote:Jeff Pearlman makes a really good point that if he happened to sit next to Mike Vrabel in a hot tub, nobody would care.

https://awfulannouncing.com/nfl/jeff-pearlman-dianna-russini-mike-vrabel-double-standard.html

I don't think that's a good point at all. (1) If two men were in that situation, especially in the holding hands picture, there would be speculation about their sexuality. But that's really missing the point, which is that (2) if a male reporter were in that situation with a female athlete or coach, then people would care.

I do think people care more about what Dianna did than what Mike did, and that is the double standard here, not the fact that a female reporter with a male coach is getting more heat than a male reporter with a male coach would.

I think it's their jobs and the potential for the relationship to impact that. A journalist coverage of a person they are having a relationship with is going to be different. If it was a male reporter and a female athlete or coach, it would deservedly get attention.

I asked earlier in the thread, but I don't believe I saw an answer. How does Mike dating the reporter affect his professional judgment. I am seriously asking. I can see why an indepdent reporter should not sleep someone they report on. But what's the reverse?

It shows he has poor judgment. Not clever enough to avoid getting caught is the lowest bar. Brings the wrong kind of media attention/distracts from his team is a more common complaint. Depending on your viewpoint, you could consider him be a personally unethical person and there's a blurry line between personal and professional. For example, sometimes celebrities get fired for violating a morality clause. If he gets fired, that has a professional and personal impact on the athletes he mentored and recruited. Recruiting is seen as a personal relationship.

Look at the post above. Because there's bad publicity, he won't be coming to a press conference. So regardless of what went on, he's skipping a work function due to poor optics caused by poor judgment. So that's just the beginning. He also contributed to a situation in which a friend (or whatever) may lose professional opportunities. If you considered things totally above board and what went on to be just networking (lol), dude is bad at networking.

Yes, it shows poor ethical judgement on his part. The NFL has worked hard to get and keep female fans. A head coach cheating publicly on his wife is not attractive behavior to most women.

They’ve done this so often that they got sloppy.

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Anonymous wrote:Jeff Pearlman makes a really good point that if he happened to sit next to Mike Vrabel in a hot tub, nobody would care.

https://awfulannouncing.com/nfl/jeff-pearlman-dianna-russini-mike-vrabel-double-standard.html

I don't think that's a good point at all. (1) If two men were in that situation, especially in the holding hands picture, there would be speculation about their sexuality. But that's really missing the point, which is that (2) if a male reporter were in that situation with a female athlete or coach, then people would care.

I do think people care more about what Dianna did than what Mike did, and that is the double standard here, not the fact that a female reporter with a male coach is getting more heat than a male reporter with a male coach would.

I think it's their jobs and the potential for the relationship to impact that. A journalist coverage of a person they are having a relationship with is going to be different. If it was a male reporter and a female athlete or coach, it would deservedly get attention.

I asked earlier in the thread, but I don't believe I saw an answer. How does Mike dating the reporter affect his professional judgment. I am seriously asking. I can see why an indepdent reporter should not sleep someone they report on. But what's the reverse?

It shows he has poor judgment. Not clever enough to avoid getting caught is the lowest bar. Brings the wrong kind of media attention/distracts from his team is a more common complaint. Depending on your viewpoint, you could consider him be a personally unethical person and there's a blurry line between personal and professional. For example, sometimes celebrities get fired for violating a morality clause. If he gets fired, that has a professional and personal impact on the athletes he mentored and recruited. Recruiting is seen as a personal relationship.

Look at the post above. Because there's bad publicity, he won't be coming to a press conference. So regardless of what went on, he's skipping a work function due to poor optics caused by poor judgment. So that's just the beginning. He also contributed to a situation in which a friend (or whatever) may lose professional opportunities. If you considered things totally above board and what went on to be just networking (lol), dude is bad at networking.

None of that matters in this case. Wishful thinking.