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Anonymous wrote:What you all should be worried about is the fact that, like every other HoCo team, this one will fall apart in the next few years and your teams are going to wind up picking up the best of their barking players.

The team almost folded already after a large group left because of the culture. The team only has two subs. It wouldn’t be surprising if a few more deserted, not wanting to be associated with the group.

I saw a lot of subs on the sideline for Maryland United 2034s. Agreed that the parent culture seems pretty toxic - have never seen parents force a forfeit for berating referees in youth lacrosse - but it doesn't seem like things are as bad as you say they are over at MDU. They'll unfortunately be back.

Anonymous wrote:What you all should be worried about is the fact that, like every other HoCo team, this one will fall apart in the next few years and your teams are going to wind up picking up the best of their barking players.

The team almost folded already after a large group left because of the culture. The team only has two subs. It wouldn’t be surprising if a few more deserted, not wanting to be associated with the group.

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Anonymous wrote:Hadn’t heard of Ho Co.

Looked it up. 83rd ranked club. Stars is 44th, to put that into perspective.

The 2034s must be a pretty special team then to be boat racing all the blue blood clubs like Maryland United so badly that the parents are completely losing their minds and causing their girls to forfeit championship games.

Hoco dad just trolling. It wasn’t a championship game. The quarter zip must be cutting off circulation to your brain.

Anonymous wrote:Hadn’t heard of Ho Co.

Looked it up. 83rd ranked club. Stars is 44th, to put that into perspective.

The 2034s must be a pretty special team then to be boat racing all the blue blood clubs like Maryland United so badly that the parents are completely losing their minds and causing their girls to forfeit championship games.

Hadn’t heard of Ho Co.

Looked it up. 83rd ranked club. Stars is 44th, to put that into perspective.

Anonymous wrote:The concern is safety and should be a valid concern for parents of fourth graders. The HoCo 34 team is dirty and coached that way. The coaches and parents try to intimidate 9 year olds. Unfortunately the Maryland United coaches and parents sunk to HoCos level.

You DMV folks should come up to Long Island, you wouldn't last 5 minutes!

The concern is safety and should be a valid concern for parents of fourth graders. The HoCo 34 team is dirty and coached that way. The coaches and parents try to intimidate 9 year olds. Unfortunately the Maryland United coaches and parents sunk to HoCos level.

'26 (D1 commit), '29 parent here. Y'all are nucking futs for all of this over 4th grade lacrosse. Wow.

I’m willing to bet the people on here debating about 9/10 year girls lacrosse have never even been apart of an athletic competition past their podunk high school’s they went to if ever… my bet is on the latter. That’s why all of you keyboard warriors keep posting anonymously trying to live through your kids accolades and accomplishments Guess what no one will remember the all mighty HOCO 2034 TEAM that won the NGLL their first 2 years a couple years down the road and No one will especially remember you the parents, so come down off your pedestal.

Take it for what it is there are a select few girls on that team that are very talented, athletic and gifted. Unfortunately those talents and wins are being overshadowed by negative culture coming from their parents and coaches. It’s all about the parents egos right now and should be about building those girls up to be confident in what they are doing out the on lacrosse field and teaching them the correct way to play team lacrosse. In the long run it would benefit them as a whole.

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Anonymous wrote:Or was it that the Hoco parents did not need to get out of line because they were fine with the way it was going aka illegal play by their team abound?

It’s not illegal if the refs don’t call a foul. Sounds like sour grapes from a lot of moms and dads from other teams who thought their snowflakes were amazing lacrosse players only to run up against more physical players and better athletes. Get used to it. All that wall ball you did with your daughter when she was six years old won’t make up for the difference in athleticism and grit that the better players display.

This is a weird post because HoCo 34 are one of the least athletic teams I've seen. They are more lesser skilled grinders who seem to practice together a lot and play on/across the line to try to intimidate.

Keep kidding yourself. They scored 128 goals this season - 40 more goals than the next team. And gave up 18, almost 35 less than the next lowest team. But yeah, just some skilled grinders who, in their infinite wisdom as 9 and 10 year olds, know how to play just dirty enough in order to psychologically intimidate their opponents without getting penalties called on them.

While scoring 128 goals can be viewed as impressive, most teams don’t keep their starting lineup in the entire game when they’re beating a team by alot. After a team reaches 10 goals or so, many coaches start rotating players into positions they don’t normally play to give others different opportunities and game experience. At that point, it’s no longer about seeing how many goals you can run up on a team for no good reason.

I had the opportunity to catch the game while waiting for my daughter’s game to start. What I witnessed was absolutely appalling. The stuff coming out of both sidelines mouths was something that does not belong on a 10 year olds sideline. Coaches were aggressive and unfortunately some siblings were also engaging in the behavior.
The girls were shoving each other down every five seconds and the refs not calling it was definitely fueling the flames. The director came over, ended the game early, and said she was sick of both teams behavior and said they both had to forfeit. I am assuming Hoco had that decision overturned since they played the next day, but honestly both teams should have been penalized to set an example to the league that this will not be tolerated.
I have heard stories from friends about this 2034 age group as a whole and it is something I have never experienced in all my years of girls lacrosse. I am not sure how this is acceptable and how it is still continuing. From my understanding Heros and FLC played right behind them and it was an intense game but nothing like this happened at their game. From reading these comments it seems that Hoco and MDU East have some serious issues within their teams and it needs to be rectified.

I have a 2033 daughter, not on Hoco or MDU. So I’m really impartial here.

I was able to see the hoco 34 vs MDU 34 game and MDU parents should be ashamed of themselves. You were warned to not yell at the refs and your parents were way over the top and it caused your program to suffer an embarrassing forfeit.

From what I saw, MDU had more yellow cards than hoco. Sorry it doesn’t for your narrative, but facts are facts.

If I was an MDU 34 parent, I’d think long and hard about what my life has become where I can’t let my daughter learn to lose with class.

You aren’t always going to be the best team or get your dream whistle. Buck up. Try not to embarrass yourself and your program next time. It’s really ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:Or was it that the Hoco parents did not need to get out of line because they were fine with the way it was going aka illegal play by their team abound?

It’s not illegal if the refs don’t call a foul. Sounds like sour grapes from a lot of moms and dads from other teams who thought their snowflakes were amazing lacrosse players only to run up against more physical players and better athletes. Get used to it. All that wall ball you did with your daughter when she was six years old won’t make up for the difference in athleticism and grit that the better players display.

This is a weird post because HoCo 34 are one of the least athletic teams I've seen. They are more lesser skilled grinders who seem to practice together a lot and play on/across the line to try to intimidate.

Keep kidding yourself. They scored 128 goals this season - 40 more goals than the next team. And gave up 18, almost 35 less than the next lowest team. But yeah, just some skilled grinders who, in their infinite wisdom as 9 and 10 year olds, know how to play just dirty enough in order to psychologically intimidate their opponents without getting penalties called on them.

Anyone with high-level sports experience knows that at younger ages have hyper-structured systems-based play usually beats more athletic and talented teams. The flip side of that is that those players in those systems rarely develop skills at the same level, because the coaches trade wins at the young ages for reduced skill and sports IQ development. That is exactly what I see with HoCo 34s. Put their players one-on-one against players from any of the other top teams and they will probably lose every matchup. Playing a team game at 9 years old and they will probably win. Play a team game when they all turn 12, and they will probably lose badly.

You lost me at describing a bunch of 9 year olds playing lacrosse as “hyper structured systems based play”. But maybe I just don’t have the “high level sports experience” that you do. Where I’m from, we just call that BS.

Everyone gets it. Your daughter plays on this team and their success is your greatest accomplishment as a parent.

What you all should be worried about is the fact that, like every other HoCo team, this one will fall apart in the next few years and your teams are going to wind up picking up the best of their barking players.

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Anonymous wrote:Or was it that the Hoco parents did not need to get out of line because they were fine with the way it was going aka illegal play by their team abound?

It’s not illegal if the refs don’t call a foul. Sounds like sour grapes from a lot of moms and dads from other teams who thought their snowflakes were amazing lacrosse players only to run up against more physical players and better athletes. Get used to it. All that wall ball you did with your daughter when she was six years old won’t make up for the difference in athleticism and grit that the better players display.

This is a weird post because HoCo 34 are one of the least athletic teams I've seen. They are more lesser skilled grinders who seem to practice together a lot and play on/across the line to try to intimidate.

Keep kidding yourself. They scored 128 goals this season - 40 more goals than the next team. And gave up 18, almost 35 less than the next lowest team. But yeah, just some skilled grinders who, in their infinite wisdom as 9 and 10 year olds, know how to play just dirty enough in order to psychologically intimidate their opponents without getting penalties called on them.

Anyone with high-level sports experience knows that at younger ages have hyper-structured systems-based play usually beats more athletic and talented teams. The flip side of that is that those players in those systems rarely develop skills at the same level, because the coaches trade wins at the young ages for reduced skill and sports IQ development. That is exactly what I see with HoCo 34s. Put their players one-on-one against players from any of the other top teams and they will probably lose every matchup. Playing a team game at 9 years old and they will probably win. Play a team game when they all turn 12, and they will probably lose badly.

You lost me at describing a bunch of 9 year olds playing lacrosse as “hyper structured systems based play”. But maybe I just don’t have the “high level sports experience” that you do. Where I’m from, we just call that BS.