Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Maybe…it seems crazy, but even at that income level, you still have to budget and pick and choose what’s important to you.
Income $700,000
Fixed Expenses
Taxes $210,000
Housing $100,000
Utilities $10,000
Insurance (healthcare, car, life, disability) $15,000
Student loan payments? $15,000
Childcare? Private school? $40,000
Total $390,000
Variable Expenses
Retirement $100,000
Charity $20,000
Car savings $10,000
Vacations $70,000
College savings $30,000
Food $32,000
Gas $8,000
Everything else (clothes, camps for kids, furniture for your house, medication, gifts, etc) $30,000
Total $310,000
Your tax estimate is too low.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m surprised by all the vacation naysayers. Where I live, it is very common for families to travel this much. Over every school break basically. Maybe not 6 weeks total but 3-4 for sure.
And yeah, the skiing out West, Caribbean spring break, east coast beach vacay schedule is very very common ime.
Anyway, we do this and we still managed to save up 5-6 million in the last 10 years despite facing kids. So idk why you’re all saying it is impossible.
where you “live”? are all of you teachers? My DH has a very busy medical practice and no way in hell is he taking 6 weeks off a year nor are any of our friends who are highly compensated professionals. Even me who is moderately compensated in a finance field could never take 6 vacations a year.
That must be specialty specific. My brother is an oncologist with a successful practice and he takes a good 2-3 months off each year. He has junior doctors who have to work their way up who of course can’t do that.
Our entire circle of friends are doctors and medical professionals and I have never once heard of this....except the ones who have sold out to PE and they hardly work now at all.
I couldn’t book an appointment with my dermatologist for all of January because she took the month off. No family emergency…she just wanted to do it.
Again…must be the specialty.
Anonymous wrote:Maybe…it seems crazy, but even at that income level, you still have to budget and pick and choose what’s important to you.
Income $700,000
Fixed Expenses
Taxes $210,000
Housing $100,000
Utilities $10,000
Insurance (healthcare, car, life, disability) $15,000
Student loan payments? $15,000
Childcare? Private school? $40,000
Total $390,000
Variable Expenses
Retirement $100,000
Charity $20,000
Car savings $10,000
Vacations $70,000
College savings $30,000
Food $32,000
Gas $8,000
Everything else (clothes, camps for kids, furniture for your house, medication, gifts, etc) $30,000
Total $310,000
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This seems like some lala land weird idea of what family life should look like. We have an 8 figure hhi yet don’t take that many vacations, and it’s nothing to do with money. You seem to have an idealized version of life and want to slot kids into it, but that’s not how it works. Maybe when the kids are very young, but if your kids do serious sports or school activities, a lot of your schedule will revolve around that. For vacations, it depends what level of nice you want, but we have 4 kids, and a ski week alone is well over half your travel budget. You also seem to be ignoring sleep away camps, sport camps, etc. I think you want some instagram version of parenting.
Where do you ski if you spend 40K on a sling trip??? We've done a lavish skiing trip in Canadian Rockies at $10K for the whole week and fantastic nordic spas this year
For 5 people? No you haven't.
yea what a joke. We just went up to stowe for the 4 day holiday. Flights were $1600, truck rental was $350, lodging was 2,220 (and this was 10min drive from the resort), lift tickets were $3744. And Food was god only knows, I don’t even want to think about it. So before food and whatever miscellaneous crap we were $8k for 4 days in friggin Vermont. No family of 5 is traveling from DC to “the Canadian Rockies” to ski for 7 days for 10k. Lift tickets alone will put a family of 5 close to 10k for lift tickets alone.
FYI, Canadian lift ticket prices are significantly cheaper than US prices...even resorts owned by US companies.
We were considering Whistler and it would have been US$380/adult for 4 days' lift tickets over Christmas.
Are you just making crap up or did you hit some weird promotion since December skiing sucks? We are headed to Whistler over college spring break early March and 4 days of lift tickets for 4 people is $3412 USD. We normally avoid Epic resports due to Epic lines. Hopefully since we are doing this during the week it won't be awful.
A vacation is as expensive as you want it to be.
I know of one family who went to Disney world. They drove all the way, stayed at a motel in Kissimmee, made their own lunch and stored it in cooler bags. They were not able to bring food inside but were able to leave to go have lunch at their car in the parking lot and go back in again
For skiing, time of year when you book is critical. Many ski resorts give huge discounts if you book your trip before like October…like 50% off daily lift prices.
The problem these days is you don’t know where the snow will be. It would have sucked to book a CO or UT trip this season.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This seems like some lala land weird idea of what family life should look like. We have an 8 figure hhi yet don’t take that many vacations, and it’s nothing to do with money. You seem to have an idealized version of life and want to slot kids into it, but that’s not how it works. Maybe when the kids are very young, but if your kids do serious sports or school activities, a lot of your schedule will revolve around that. For vacations, it depends what level of nice you want, but we have 4 kids, and a ski week alone is well over half your travel budget. You also seem to be ignoring sleep away camps, sport camps, etc. I think you want some instagram version of parenting.
Where do you ski if you spend 40K on a sling trip??? We've done a lavish skiing trip in Canadian Rockies at $10K for the whole week and fantastic nordic spas this year
For 5 people? No you haven't.
yea what a joke. We just went up to stowe for the 4 day holiday. Flights were $1600, truck rental was $350, lodging was 2,220 (and this was 10min drive from the resort), lift tickets were $3744. And Food was god only knows, I don’t even want to think about it. So before food and whatever miscellaneous crap we were $8k for 4 days in friggin Vermont. No family of 5 is traveling from DC to “the Canadian Rockies” to ski for 7 days for 10k. Lift tickets alone will put a family of 5 close to 10k for lift tickets alone.
FYI, Canadian lift ticket prices are significantly cheaper than US prices...even resorts owned by US companies.
We were considering Whistler and it would have been US$380/adult for 4 days' lift tickets over Christmas.
Are you just making crap up or did you hit some weird promotion since December skiing sucks? We are headed to Whistler over college spring break early March and 4 days of lift tickets for 4 people is $3412 USD. We normally avoid Epic resports due to Epic lines. Hopefully since we are doing this during the week it won't be awful.
A vacation is as expensive as you want it to be.
I know of one family who went to Disney world. They drove all the way, stayed at a motel in Kissimmee, made their own lunch and stored it in cooler bags. They were not able to bring food inside but were able to leave to go have lunch at their car in the parking lot and go back in again
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This seems like some lala land weird idea of what family life should look like. We have an 8 figure hhi yet don’t take that many vacations, and it’s nothing to do with money. You seem to have an idealized version of life and want to slot kids into it, but that’s not how it works. Maybe when the kids are very young, but if your kids do serious sports or school activities, a lot of your schedule will revolve around that. For vacations, it depends what level of nice you want, but we have 4 kids, and a ski week alone is well over half your travel budget. You also seem to be ignoring sleep away camps, sport camps, etc. I think you want some instagram version of parenting.
Where do you ski if you spend 40K on a sling trip??? We've done a lavish skiing trip in Canadian Rockies at $10K for the whole week and fantastic nordic spas this year
For 5 people? No you haven't.
yea what a joke. We just went up to stowe for the 4 day holiday. Flights were $1600, truck rental was $350, lodging was 2,220 (and this was 10min drive from the resort), lift tickets were $3744. And Food was god only knows, I don’t even want to think about it. So before food and whatever miscellaneous crap we were $8k for 4 days in friggin Vermont. No family of 5 is traveling from DC to “the Canadian Rockies” to ski for 7 days for 10k. Lift tickets alone will put a family of 5 close to 10k for lift tickets alone.
FYI, Canadian lift ticket prices are significantly cheaper than US prices...even resorts owned by US companies.
We were considering Whistler and it would have been US$380/adult for 4 days' lift tickets over Christmas.
Are you just making crap up or did you hit some weird promotion since December skiing sucks? We are headed to Whistler over college spring break early March and 4 days of lift tickets for 4 people is $3412 USD. We normally avoid Epic resports due to Epic lines. Hopefully since we are doing this during the week it won't be awful.
Anonymous wrote:A lot of you described lives of miserable grind as "affluence". I can never understand this. Making these high incomes or having wealth and still being unable to take more than 1-2 consecutive weeks off or total of 6 weeks per year is a terrible life unless you are absolutely in love with your job and it defines you.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m surprised by all the vacation naysayers. Where I live, it is very common for families to travel this much. Over every school break basically. Maybe not 6 weeks total but 3-4 for sure.
And yeah, the skiing out West, Caribbean spring break, east coast beach vacay schedule is very very common ime.
Anyway, we do this and we still managed to save up 5-6 million in the last 10 years despite facing kids. So idk why you’re all saying it is impossible.
where you “live”? are all of you teachers? My DH has a very busy medical practice and no way in hell is he taking 6 weeks off a year nor are any of our friends who are highly compensated professionals. Even me who is moderately compensated in a finance field could never take 6 vacations a year.
That must be specialty specific. My brother is an oncologist with a successful practice and he takes a good 2-3 months off each year. He has junior doctors who have to work their way up who of course can’t do that.
Our entire circle of friends are doctors and medical professionals and I have never once heard of this....except the ones who have sold out to PE and they hardly work now at all.