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Anonymous wrote:Are there other adult children and family in the area? A kid living 3,000 miles away from their aging widow mom makes me so sad. She prob only saw her a handful of times a year

She was close with her mom. This was not her fault. Elderly parents are free agents. Check the Eldercare board and you will see many of us have elders who want to age in place. Check yourself.

You’re projecting because you have a guilty conscience

Do you understand you cannot force your elderly parent to move when they are of sound mind. Look into the legality before you post.

Of sound mind but can't walk 50 yds alone?

Why is this difficult? Many elderly people have physical challenges but are still mentally sound.

Also to the people implying Savannah Guthrie shouldn’t have allowed her mom to live there, that’s where Savannah is from. It is her mother’s home and she has other family and friends in the area. It’s not like Savannah is the only family and abandoned her.

I meant she may be cognitively sound, but if she can't walk well and needs assistance to be mobile, then perhaps live-in help or assisted living facility is appropriate. We sometimes have to make difficult decisions regarding elderly parent care.

My mom lives in Tucson and certainly can’t walk 50 yards unassisted. She has a walker for longer walks like that. My siblings live within a mile or two. She also has an Apple Watch that alerts us if she falls and an Apple home thing she can use to alert us if she falls or needs help. She definitely doesn’t want to move. She comes to visit out here but not in the winter. You’re ridiculous to suggest someone needs to go into a home just because they can’t walk half a football field unassisted!

I stated OR live-in help. If you think not needed for a person in their 80s with very limited mobility, fine with me.

Why the heck would she need live in help? According to her Apple Watch, she averages 2000 steps a day around her house—she just can’t walk long distances due to the athritis. She cooks and cleans and does her laundry and takes her medication. She only needs help with certain things like some of the more complicated online accounts and of course she doesn’t drive. We used to have someone come in a couple times a eeek when my dad was alive but even then the lady ended up just sitting around with nothing really to do, irritating my mom.
It sounds like savannahs mom was totally capable of taking care of herself but maybe didn’t drive anymore and couldn’t walk a half football field. That doesn’t mean she needs round the clock care!

Your head is in the sand and you're spinning. The elderly person you describe should have full-time in-home care and/or live in very close proximity to immediate family. Everything is all good... until it's not. Like letting a senile person drive... until they cause a fatal accident.

I work in home health care and I think you are full of poopy.

There are MANY elders in their 70s, 80s and 90s who live on their own and do very well with just occasional assistance.

‘Everything is all good- until it’s not.’ Yeah, you know YOU could have a massive heart attack or stroke or blow an aneurysm while siting on your toilet dumping a poopy. Lots of middle aged people lose their lives in those ways every year. Should YOU have a babysitter living with you???

Most of us understand that just about anything can happen regardless of age, but more likely to have a medical event if you're over 80.

+1 for sure!

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Anonymous wrote:Are there other adult children and family in the area? A kid living 3,000 miles away from their aging widow mom makes me so sad. She prob only saw her a handful of times a year

She was close with her mom. This was not her fault. Elderly parents are free agents. Check the Eldercare board and you will see many of us have elders who want to age in place. Check yourself.

You’re projecting because you have a guilty conscience

Do you understand you cannot force your elderly parent to move when they are of sound mind. Look into the legality before you post.

Of sound mind but can't walk 50 yds alone?

Why is this difficult? Many elderly people have physical challenges but are still mentally sound.

Also to the people implying Savannah Guthrie shouldn’t have allowed her mom to live there, that’s where Savannah is from. It is her mother’s home and she has other family and friends in the area. It’s not like Savannah is the only family and abandoned her.

I meant she may be cognitively sound, but if she can't walk well and needs assistance to be mobile, then perhaps live-in help or assisted living facility is appropriate. We sometimes have to make difficult decisions regarding elderly parent care.

My mom lives in Tucson and certainly can’t walk 50 yards unassisted. She has a walker for longer walks like that. My siblings live within a mile or two. She also has an Apple Watch that alerts us if she falls and an Apple home thing she can use to alert us if she falls or needs help. She definitely doesn’t want to move. She comes to visit out here but not in the winter. You’re ridiculous to suggest someone needs to go into a home just because they can’t walk half a football field unassisted!

I stated OR live-in help. If you think not needed for a person in their 80s with very limited mobility, fine with me.

Why the heck would she need live in help? According to her Apple Watch, she averages 2000 steps a day around her house—she just can’t walk long distances due to the athritis. She cooks and cleans and does her laundry and takes her medication. She only needs help with certain things like some of the more complicated online accounts and of course she doesn’t drive. We used to have someone come in a couple times a eeek when my dad was alive but even then the lady ended up just sitting around with nothing really to do, irritating my mom.
It sounds like savannahs mom was totally capable of taking care of herself but maybe didn’t drive anymore and couldn’t walk a half football field. That doesn’t mean she needs round the clock care!

Your head is in the sand and you're spinning. The elderly person you describe should have full-time in-home care and/or live in very close proximity to immediate family. Everything is all good... until it's not. Like letting a senile person drive... until they cause a fatal accident.

Nancy's children dropped her off at her home after dinner at 9:45pm. She didn't show up at church the next morning. It does not sound like she was neglected at all, so just shut your trap.

You should consider closing yours.

Don’t make your parents flip you off from the great beyond again.

Lots of theories that seem plausible.

I wonder if there is any possibility at all (ridiculous as it may sound at her age) of a problematic old boyfriend or love interest (or any scenario related to this). Her husband passed away over 30 years ago but she certainly might have had a romantic relationship or relationships since that time.

While I doubt she was super active on the dating scene at age 84, things could’ve been different even 5-10 years ago. Also, relationships at older ages often involve bitter conflicts with ex-spouses, kids and even grandkids etc (especially for anyone with money to protect or over potential inheritance issues). Someone might have happened in the past that caused someone to hold a grudge- and perhaps something could have happened more recently to make them snap.

I’ve seen late in life marriages turn into incredibly bitter and toxic with the families (over $$$, usually) a few times.

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Anonymous wrote:Are there other adult children and family in the area? A kid living 3,000 miles away from their aging widow mom makes me so sad. She prob only saw her a handful of times a year

She was close with her mom. This was not her fault. Elderly parents are free agents. Check the Eldercare board and you will see many of us have elders who want to age in place. Check yourself.

You’re projecting because you have a guilty conscience

Do you understand you cannot force your elderly parent to move when they are of sound mind. Look into the legality before you post.

Of sound mind but can't walk 50 yds alone?

Why is this difficult? Many elderly people have physical challenges but are still mentally sound.

Also to the people implying Savannah Guthrie shouldn’t have allowed her mom to live there, that’s where Savannah is from. It is her mother’s home and she has other family and friends in the area. It’s not like Savannah is the only family and abandoned her.

I meant she may be cognitively sound, but if she can't walk well and needs assistance to be mobile, then perhaps live-in help or assisted living facility is appropriate. We sometimes have to make difficult decisions regarding elderly parent care.

My mom lives in Tucson and certainly can’t walk 50 yards unassisted. She has a walker for longer walks like that. My siblings live within a mile or two. She also has an Apple Watch that alerts us if she falls and an Apple home thing she can use to alert us if she falls or needs help. She definitely doesn’t want to move. She comes to visit out here but not in the winter. You’re ridiculous to suggest someone needs to go into a home just because they can’t walk half a football field unassisted!

I stated OR live-in help. If you think not needed for a person in their 80s with very limited mobility, fine with me.

Why the heck would she need live in help? According to her Apple Watch, she averages 2000 steps a day around her house—she just can’t walk long distances due to the athritis. She cooks and cleans and does her laundry and takes her medication. She only needs help with certain things like some of the more complicated online accounts and of course she doesn’t drive. We used to have someone come in a couple times a eeek when my dad was alive but even then the lady ended up just sitting around with nothing really to do, irritating my mom.
It sounds like savannahs mom was totally capable of taking care of herself but maybe didn’t drive anymore and couldn’t walk a half football field. That doesn’t mean she needs round the clock care!

Your head is in the sand and you're spinning. The elderly person you describe should have full-time in-home care and/or live in very close proximity to immediate family. Everything is all good... until it's not. Like letting a senile person drive... until they cause a fatal accident.

Nancy's children dropped her off at her home after dinner at 9:45pm. She didn't show up at church the next morning. It does not sound like she was neglected at all, so just shut your trap.

You should consider closing yours.

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Anonymous wrote:Are there other adult children and family in the area? A kid living 3,000 miles away from their aging widow mom makes me so sad. She prob only saw her a handful of times a year

She was close with her mom. This was not her fault. Elderly parents are free agents. Check the Eldercare board and you will see many of us have elders who want to age in place. Check yourself.

You’re projecting because you have a guilty conscience

Do you understand you cannot force your elderly parent to move when they are of sound mind. Look into the legality before you post.

Of sound mind but can't walk 50 yds alone?

Why is this difficult? Many elderly people have physical challenges but are still mentally sound.

Also to the people implying Savannah Guthrie shouldn’t have allowed her mom to live there, that’s where Savannah is from. It is her mother’s home and she has other family and friends in the area. It’s not like Savannah is the only family and abandoned her.

I meant she may be cognitively sound, but if she can't walk well and needs assistance to be mobile, then perhaps live-in help or assisted living facility is appropriate. We sometimes have to make difficult decisions regarding elderly parent care.

My mom lives in Tucson and certainly can’t walk 50 yards unassisted. She has a walker for longer walks like that. My siblings live within a mile or two. She also has an Apple Watch that alerts us if she falls and an Apple home thing she can use to alert us if she falls or needs help. She definitely doesn’t want to move. She comes to visit out here but not in the winter. You’re ridiculous to suggest someone needs to go into a home just because they can’t walk half a football field unassisted!

I stated OR live-in help. If you think not needed for a person in their 80s with very limited mobility, fine with me.

Why the heck would she need live in help? According to her Apple Watch, she averages 2000 steps a day around her house—she just can’t walk long distances due to the athritis. She cooks and cleans and does her laundry and takes her medication. She only needs help with certain things like some of the more complicated online accounts and of course she doesn’t drive. We used to have someone come in a couple times a eeek when my dad was alive but even then the lady ended up just sitting around with nothing really to do, irritating my mom.
It sounds like savannahs mom was totally capable of taking care of herself but maybe didn’t drive anymore and couldn’t walk a half football field. That doesn’t mean she needs round the clock care!

Your head is in the sand and you're spinning. The elderly person you describe should have full-time in-home care and/or live in very close proximity to immediate family. Everything is all good... until it's not. Like letting a senile person drive... until they cause a fatal accident.

Nancy's children dropped her off at her home after dinner at 9:45pm. She didn't show up at church the next morning. It does not sound like she was neglected at all, so just shut your trap.

Here is the link:
https://www.today.com/news/savannah-guthrie-mom-missing-arizona-rcna257021

The search has been shut down according to some sources because this is considered a crime? That does not sound good. I hope she is alive!

Anonymous wrote:There’s a lot not adding up here. We believe she was abducted, but there’s not a threat to the public, we believe she was hurt and what we found was concerning, but her family searched around for an hour and didn’t see anything that prompted them to immediately call the police. Very odd.

+1, the fact that they said there is no threat to the public while also saying she was taken against her will and harmed really stood out to me.

I am wondering if it could be someone who worked for her who needed to be fired? I wonder if the sister who lives in the area now has increased security or if they think the mom was specifically targeted.

She just did a Homecoming show in Arizona that had her mom saying how safe and calm it is where she lives, which it usually is.

Anonymous wrote:The police have stated there was not a ransom note.

I don’t think it is realistic that someone would want to harm her based on politics or as some sort of revenge.

This case is really strange IMO. Seems the most likely scenario is it was someone she semi knew (a service worker of some sort). Pool guy, landscaper, someone who had come to fix something or deliver something to the house. Probably assumed she had a lot of money- being Guthrie’s mother- and something went wrong or got out of hand.

Other option would be a sicko/SA. I really hope not, but there have been cases before.

Based on that home you would assume she had a lot of money, but so do all her neighbors. The fact the police say there is no threat to the public suggests to me, she was targeted and this may indeed be to send Savannah a message which would be gutwrenching.

Anonymous wrote:There’s a lot not adding up here. We believe she was abducted, but there’s not a threat to the public, we believe she was hurt and what we found was concerning, but her family searched around for an hour and didn’t see anything that prompted them to immediately call the police. Very odd.

I agree. I am sure those cameras caught something unless they were blocked. One article said she employed a lot of people-cook for her, take care of landscaping, clean, etc-usual things for keeping up that big a house. Perhaps someone who knew her place well did this or shared info with the person who did and they knew how to get around cameras?

There's a lot that is alarming when you put stories together. If the public is considered safe, that tells you a lot. The fact they think she was hurt is so disturbing and it must mean they saw signs of a struggle either on camera or blood or something. I can imagine looking for her for an hour before calling the police because you are in shock and cannot even imagine something terrible happened.

There’s a lot not adding up here. We believe she was abducted, but there’s not a threat to the public, we believe she was hurt and what we found was concerning, but her family searched around for an hour and didn’t see anything that prompted them to immediately call the police. Very odd.

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Anonymous wrote:Are there other adult children and family in the area? A kid living 3,000 miles away from their aging widow mom makes me so sad. She prob only saw her a handful of times a year

She was close with her mom. This was not her fault. Elderly parents are free agents. Check the Eldercare board and you will see many of us have elders who want to age in place. Check yourself.

You’re projecting because you have a guilty conscience

Do you understand you cannot force your elderly parent to move when they are of sound mind. Look into the legality before you post.

Nobody forced YOU to abandon your elders and move across the country

My parents told me to chase my dreams and go wherever I wanted. Dad is gone now. Mom lives independently on the campus of a senior living complex halfway across the country. She’s 90. She’d never ever want me to move back there. We text every day, talk weekly. She drives and has friends and volunteers. She has a full life that she doesn’t want to leave. What kind of crazy codependent life are you living. BTW - one of my children is a plane flight away and another is abroad. They are both living their best lives which brings me great joy.

Anonymous wrote:The local sheriff is now saying that she was taken from her bed in the middle of the night and was “harmed in the process”. They aren’t saying exactly what this based upon, but I’m sure they would not release that info the media if they were not pretty certain.

It really does not look good. This poor woman. I also feel so sorry for the family. I really can’t even imagine.

This is awful. I cannot imagine what the family is going through. When I first saw this story I definitely was not thinking this is where it would go

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Anonymous wrote:Are there other adult children and family in the area? A kid living 3,000 miles away from their aging widow mom makes me so sad. She prob only saw her a handful of times a year

She was close with her mom. This was not her fault. Elderly parents are free agents. Check the Eldercare board and you will see many of us have elders who want to age in place. Check yourself.

You’re projecting because you have a guilty conscience

Do you understand you cannot force your elderly parent to move when they are of sound mind. Look into the legality before you post.

Of sound mind but can't walk 50 yds alone?

Why is this difficult? Many elderly people have physical challenges but are still mentally sound.

Also to the people implying Savannah Guthrie shouldn’t have allowed her mom to live there, that’s where Savannah is from. It is her mother’s home and she has other family and friends in the area. It’s not like Savannah is the only family and abandoned her.

I meant she may be cognitively sound, but if she can't walk well and needs assistance to be mobile, then perhaps live-in help or assisted living facility is appropriate. We sometimes have to make difficult decisions regarding elderly parent care.

My mom lives in Tucson and certainly can’t walk 50 yards unassisted. She has a walker for longer walks like that. My siblings live within a mile or two. She also has an Apple Watch that alerts us if she falls and an Apple home thing she can use to alert us if she falls or needs help. She definitely doesn’t want to move. She comes to visit out here but not in the winter. You’re ridiculous to suggest someone needs to go into a home just because they can’t walk half a football field unassisted!

I stated OR live-in help. If you think not needed for a person in their 80s with very limited mobility, fine with me.

Why the heck would she need live in help? According to her Apple Watch, she averages 2000 steps a day around her house—she just can’t walk long distances due to the athritis. She cooks and cleans and does her laundry and takes her medication. She only needs help with certain things like some of the more complicated online accounts and of course she doesn’t drive. We used to have someone come in a couple times a eeek when my dad was alive but even then the lady ended up just sitting around with nothing really to do, irritating my mom.
It sounds like savannahs mom was totally capable of taking care of herself but maybe didn’t drive anymore and couldn’t walk a half football field. That doesn’t mean she needs round the clock care!

Your head is in the sand and you're spinning. The elderly person you describe should have full-time in-home care and/or live in very close proximity to immediate family. Everything is all good... until it's not. Like letting a senile person drive... until they cause a fatal accident.

I work in home health care and I think you are full of poopy.

There are MANY elders in their 70s, 80s and 90s who live on their own and do very well with just occasional assistance.

‘Everything is all good- until it’s not.’ Yeah, you know YOU could have a massive heart attack or stroke or blow an aneurysm while siting on your toilet dumping a poopy. Lots of middle aged people lose their lives in those ways every year. Should YOU have a babysitter living with you???

Most of us understand that just about anything can happen regardless of age, but more likely to have a medical event if you're over 80.