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Anonymous wrote:What is the basis of Denmark's claim on Greenland ?

This is an issue best left to the citizens of Greenland based on an informed campaign.

Greenlanders are not happy with Denmark.

Greenlanders want full independence, not to become subjects to a different power. Except they also want to keep money coming in.

There is, and has been, support in Greenland for becoming closely attached to the United States of America currently and since the 1860s.

Denmark claims responsibility for the defense of Greenland, yet the Danish military is smaller than the New York City police dept.

China has tried to invest in major infrastructure projects in Greenland with the most recent being two airports. Greenland Ned's & is seeking outside investment which Denmark is incapable and/or unwilling to provide.

President Trump and his advisors see the future clearly regarding Greenland. The real issue is whether Greenlanders prefer to learn Mandarin or English.

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Anonymous wrote:What if Denmark wanted to take over Puerto Rico? Should we just let them?

Sure. Why not?

Not PP, but agree it’s kind of a decent trade.

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Anonymous wrote:If the US is serious about "taking over" Greenland, then it is at least as great as security threat to Western Europe as Russia is.

And should be treated accordingly.

Treated by who exactly, the vaunted Danish military ? Like it or not, Trump has the “cards” on this one.

NATO

There is no NATO without the US. That’s a reality you can’t deny when you start analyzing the relative military capabilities. T of course knows this.

You're thinking the US would commit to a full scale global conflict? No, they wouldn't. There are more than enough military resources to push back on Trump. And the global sanctions against the US would be crippling. The US would be descend into the relative dark ages for the sole purpose of entertaining the mad king.

WTF are you talking about ? If the US decided to put more installations there it, it would be up to whatever is left to stop them. The French have one aircraft carrier, the Germans have zero, the French carrier would never make it out of port. The rest of NATO is defensive, not offensive. They are deathly afraid of this country called Russia, ever heard of them ? They’re not moving any troops to defend Greenland against the US. That’s a joke.

First of all, as an ALLY of DENMARK, the U.S. has already been welcome to put military installations there. So there is nothing to gain by this hostile stance.

Secondly, on paper alone, by sheer superiority in numbers and everything else, Russia should have taken Ukraine within a month. Nearly 3 years later, they are still entrenched where they were for the last two years, and they lost ONE MILLION MEN. Warfare is not determined by what is on paper at the outset.

Ugh, Ukraine gets alot of help from the US, and Russia is holding back so they don’t just level the entire country.

What you don’t address is where is non-US NATO getting the offensive capabilities to kick the US out of an established position in Greenland. They don’t have it. There navies are putrid. They spent all their minimal funds to fight a land war with Russia, as they should since the US won’t be there to defend them per the logic of this thread.

Russia is not holding back in the Ukraine. That is an idiotic statement. Russia has lost 3 armies against 1980’s technology against a country with a fourth of its population and a 10th of its GDP. NATO without the US would destroy Russia even with the US bricking the F35 and surveillance tech. NATO without the US has a population of 610 million and a GPD of 26 trillion vs Russia’s 144 million and GDP of 1.8 trillion. Who do you think would win?

If the US takes Greenland 7 European states will go nuclear within a month with missiles pointed at the US. Also NATO will be over and the US will lose all European bases(31 major bases and 50-80 shared access). The US military will not be allow to enter or refuel/resupply in European territory. They will sanction the US(and Israel). Israel’s survival depends on US pressure on Europe and would be crippled with European sanctions.

The US would lose Australia joint bases, British Indian Ocean Territory naval bases(Diego Garcia), Canadian air force bases, Singapore air force bases, Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia (United Kingdom) air force bases, Ascension Island (United Kingdom) space force bases, etc. The logistics problem supplying the US fleet would be almost unworkable. Oh and Five Eyes and all intelligence sharing would be over.

Without NATO we would have to conservatively increase our defense spending by 3-4 times to maintain the same presence. Seems like a great trade for a place that will be cover with 2 miles of ice for 500-1,000 years, we can access any of their resources through the free market and we already have bases on.

You republicans have chosen Russia over Europe and NATO. It is utterly stupid(see above)

Russia doesn’t use their heavy bombers/missiles on Ukraine, they could but don’t.

It sounds like you think Europe can defend itself w/o the US in NATO. I agree, fantastic, close the US bases in Europe and send all the troops/equipment home. WWll ended 75+years ago, why are still there given all their economic/military power that you cite ? The rest of the bases can be negotiated with the other countries. But, the more that are closed, the better. The US has been defending the world forever, let others step up. We’ll worry about the Western hemisphere, which includes Greenland.

Russia probably uses WWI planes. All their equipment is crap.

Russian horseback troops were wiped out by Ukrainian drones during a battlefield clash in a victory for modern warfare over centuries-old tactics.

Dramatic footage released by the Ukrainian military shows a remotely piloted first person view drone [FPV] swooping on one of Vladimir Putin's soldiers on horseback.

The troop tumbled off the horse, after which the explosives-packed drone struck him

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Anonymous wrote:What is the basis of Denmark's claim on Greenland ?

This is an issue best left to the citizens of Greenland based on an informed campaign.

Greenlanders are not happy with Denmark.

They can vote themselves out anytime they want. Denmark has already stated that they would respect their independence.

The process is not that simple. Denmark's governing body must approve any such move after an election victory for independence.

Denmark has no right to claim Greenland beyond imperialism.

Are we really working up a Putin-style Ukrainian invasion argument?

Fair question. My answer is no, I am not advocating for any type of use of military force in the inevitable joining of the United States of America with Greenland.

The US must purchase Greenland pursuant to a free,fair, and fully informed election by the few citizens of Greenland (total population of less than 57,000; not sure how many are of legal voting age.)

The US can make the lives of Greenlanders much better and much more secure than can Denmark.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the basis of Denmark's claim on Greenland ?

This is an issue best left to the citizens of Greenland based on an informed campaign.

Greenlanders are not happy with Denmark.

Actually Greenlanders are very happy with Denmark and have no interest in becoming an affiliate of the US. Facts matter.

If facts matter, then your post should be ignored. Try researching a bit before making incorrect assertions as if they are fact.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the basis of Denmark's claim on Greenland ?

This is an issue best left to the citizens of Greenland based on an informed campaign.

Greenlanders are not happy with Denmark.

They can vote themselves out anytime they want. Denmark has already stated that they would respect their independence.

The process is not that simple. Denmark's governing body must approve any such move after an election victory for independence.

Denmark has no right to claim Greenland beyond imperialism.

Are we really working up a Putin-style Ukrainian invasion argument?

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Anonymous wrote:If most Greenlanders doesn't want to be part of the US (to their own detriment) than I think we should respect their wishes? My question is, why wouldn't they want to be part of the US? We are the most advanced country in the world. We have an excellent public school system. In fact, Id rather be educated in the poorest school district in America than literally anywhere else outside the US. We have the best hospitals and most advanced mericine in the world. Literally every other country is behind us in terms of modern medicine. The vast majority of medical advancements happen the US. The US can make any country look like a 3rd world country.

It’s true that the U.S. has enormous advantages compared to other countries, but it’s hardly a happy place. What are those advantages actually for? Healthcare is broken, poverty is widespread and worsening, mass shootings are out of control, and people work themselves to exhaustion without enjoying life. It’s a nonstop rat race, and now we have Trump again, which is another level of shit show. The U.S is a shit show no doubt. It’s a complete mess. So why, exactly, is the world supposed to bow to the United States?

Anonymous wrote:It's the cycle of life. Larger animals eat smaller ones. More sophisticated nations conquer unsophisticated ones. Don't try to fight what comes naturally.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the basis of Denmark's claim on Greenland ?

This is an issue best left to the citizens of Greenland based on an informed campaign.

Greenlanders are not happy with Denmark.

They can vote themselves out anytime they want. Denmark has already stated that they would respect their independence.

The process is not that simple. Denmark's governing body must approve any such move after an election victory for independence.

Denmark has no right to claim Greenland beyond imperialism.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the basis of Denmark's claim on Greenland ?

This is an issue best left to the citizens of Greenland based on an informed campaign.

Greenlanders are not happy with Denmark.

Actually Greenlanders are very happy with Denmark and have no interest in becoming an affiliate of the US. Facts matter.

If facts matter, then your post should be ignored. Try researching a bit before making incorrect assertions as if they are fact.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the basis of Denmark's claim on Greenland ?

This is an issue best left to the citizens of Greenland based on an informed campaign.

Greenlanders are not happy with Denmark.

They can vote themselves out anytime they want. Denmark has already stated that they would respect their independence.

Anonymous wrote:If most Greenlanders doesn't want to be part of the US (to their own detriment) than I think we should respect their wishes? My question is, why wouldn't they want to be part of the US? We are the most advanced country in the world. We have an excellent public school system. In fact, Id rather be educated in the poorest school district in America than literally anywhere else outside the US. We have the best hospitals and most advanced mericine in the world. Literally every other country is behind us in terms of modern medicine. The vast majority of medical advancements happen the US. The US can make any country look like a 3rd world country.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the basis of Denmark's claim on Greenland ?

This is an issue best left to the citizens of Greenland based on an informed campaign.

Greenlanders are not happy with Denmark.

Actually Greenlanders are very happy with Denmark and have no interest in becoming an affiliate of the US. Facts matter.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the basis of Denmark's claim on Greenland ?

This is an issue best left to the citizens of Greenland based on an informed campaign.

Greenlanders are not happy with Denmark.

Actually Greenlanders are very happy with Denmark and have no interest in becoming an affiliate of the US. Facts matter.