Anonymous
11/04/2025 18:10
Subject: Michigan Early Decision - Any Early Anecdotes?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My friend has a child at Yorktown and they were told that there are 70+ kids who have ED'd to Michigan.
In Virginia,...... what?
If these Yorktown kids have the stats to get into Michigan, they could get into UVA. Hard to believe there are 70 kids that would pay $80,000 a year for Michigan knowing they could very likely go in state to UVA for half the cost.
There are reasons students would chose one over the other. While they attract similiar kids, some want to leave VA and some want to stay instate. Some programs are stronger at one or the other. Some want a bigger school in a strong college town, some want a smaller, more intimate feel. I would suspect that 70 is the number of apps in. You can see that on Naviance, but it does not show what admissions path they chose.
I get all the reasons. My Virginia kid applied ED to Michigan. The idea that 70 public school kids are willing to be locked into Michigan’s very high tuition (they give basically no aid OOS) is what is surprising.
Do you know the population at Yorktown? This is totally on point with the school demographics.
It’s possible 70 students applied either EA OR ED. But it is not possible 70 applied ED from Yorktown. Not possible given last year’s numbers with a smaller class for 2026.
PP, I was referring to the comment about the high cost of OOS tuition. I don't think most of Yorktown is concerned with that.
Anonymous
11/04/2025 16:51
Subject: Michigan Early Decision - Any Early Anecdotes?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My friend has a child at Yorktown and they were told that there are 70+ kids who have ED'd to Michigan.
In Virginia,...... what?
If these Yorktown kids have the stats to get into Michigan, they could get into UVA. Hard to believe there are 70 kids that would pay $80,000 a year for Michigan knowing they could very likely go in state to UVA for half the cost.
There are reasons students would chose one over the other. While they attract similiar kids, some want to leave VA and some want to stay instate. Some programs are stronger at one or the other. Some want a bigger school in a strong college town, some want a smaller, more intimate feel. I would suspect that 70 is the number of apps in. You can see that on Naviance, but it does not show what admissions path they chose.
I get all the reasons. My Virginia kid applied ED to Michigan. The idea that 70 public school kids are willing to be locked into Michigan’s very high tuition (they give basically no aid OOS) is what is surprising.
Do you know the population at Yorktown? This is totally on point with the school demographics.
It’s possible 70 students applied either EA OR ED. But it is not possible 70 applied ED from Yorktown. Not possible given last year’s numbers with a smaller class for 2026.
Anonymous
11/04/2025 16:26
Subject: Michigan Early Decision - Any Early Anecdotes?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My friend has a child at Yorktown and they were told that there are 70+ kids who have ED'd to Michigan.
In Virginia,...... what?
If these Yorktown kids have the stats to get into Michigan, they could get into UVA. Hard to believe there are 70 kids that would pay $80,000 a year for Michigan knowing they could very likely go in state to UVA for half the cost.
There are reasons students would chose one over the other. While they attract similiar kids, some want to leave VA and some want to stay instate. Some programs are stronger at one or the other. Some want a bigger school in a strong college town, some want a smaller, more intimate feel. I would suspect that 70 is the number of apps in. You can see that on Naviance, but it does not show what admissions path they chose.
I get all the reasons. My Virginia kid applied ED to Michigan. The idea that 70 public school kids are willing to be locked into Michigan’s very high tuition (they give basically no aid OOS) is what is surprising.
Do you know the population at Yorktown? This is totally on point with the school demographics.
Anonymous
11/04/2025 16:20
Subject: Michigan Early Decision - Any Early Anecdotes?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The good news is that because Michigan has on balance relatively few SAT high scorers, applying ED with an SAT around 1450 should be an automatic admit. We'll have to wait and see how many students apply ED, but it should be a pretty big number. This will also help Michigan's yield rate get above that magic 50% number.
Ha! DC with 1580 SAT was not an auto-admit during EA rounds.
My TO DC was "an auto-admit" (OOS) in EA last cycle.
Anonymous
11/04/2025 16:14
Subject: Michigan Early Decision - Any Early Anecdotes?
Anonymous wrote:The good news is that because Michigan has on balance relatively few SAT high scorers, applying ED with an SAT around 1450 should be an automatic admit. We'll have to wait and see how many students apply ED, but it should be a pretty big number. This will also help Michigan's yield rate get above that magic 50% number.
Ha! DC with 1580 SAT was not an auto-admit during EA rounds.
Anonymous
11/04/2025 16:01
Subject: Michigan Early Decision - Any Early Anecdotes?
Anonymous wrote:The good news is that because Michigan has on balance relatively few SAT high scorers, applying ED with an SAT around 1450 should be an automatic admit. We'll have to wait and see how many students apply ED, but it should be a pretty big number. This will also help Michigan's yield rate get above that magic 50% number.
They do not have few high scorers. They also had 115K applications. That's a lot of scores. Someone is trying to trick people.
Anonymous
11/04/2025 15:53
Subject: Michigan Early Decision - Any Early Anecdotes?
Anonymous wrote:The good news is that because Michigan has on balance relatively few SAT high scorers, applying ED with an SAT around 1450 should be an automatic admit. We'll have to wait and see how many students apply ED, but it should be a pretty big number. This will also help Michigan's yield rate get above that magic 50% number.
This person is delusional. I know kids higher SATs than that and good GPAs that were rejected at UM, but got in places like UVA. There is no autoadmit and, despite the nonsense above, there are many, many high SAT scoring students at UM. The poster wants to put down the school and looks pathetic.
Anonymous
11/04/2025 15:10
Subject: Michigan Early Decision - Any Early Anecdotes?
Anonymous wrote:The good news is that because Michigan has on balance relatively few SAT high scorers, applying ED with an SAT around 1450 should be an automatic admit. We'll have to wait and see how many students apply ED, but it should be a pretty big number. This will also help Michigan's yield rate get above that magic 50% number.
Again, in-state and OOS are totally different pools.
Anonymous
11/04/2025 14:59
Subject: Michigan Early Decision - Any Early Anecdotes?
Anonymous wrote:The good news is that because Michigan has on balance relatively few SAT high scorers, applying ED with an SAT around 1450 should be an automatic admit. We'll have to wait and see how many students apply ED, but it should be a pretty big number. This will also help Michigan's yield rate get above that magic 50% number.
No such thing as autoadmit for score level. That is not how admission works, not even close.
Anonymous
11/04/2025 14:57
Subject: Michigan Early Decision - Any Early Anecdotes?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UVA SAT 25%-50%-75%
45% submit
1410-1470-1520
Michigan
51% submit
1360-1460-1530
The middle and top end of UVA and Michigan are similar.
At the bottom end, UVA has better students.
An average SAT of 1460-1470 is solid for a public school. Not quite elite, private school level, but solid.
If you are going to make the assertion, then you need to separate in-state versus OOS applicants/matriculants.
Plus add in ACT scores too.
Anonymous
11/04/2025 14:54
Subject: Michigan Early Decision - Any Early Anecdotes?
The good news is that because Michigan has on balance relatively few SAT high scorers, applying ED with an SAT around 1450 should be an automatic admit. We'll have to wait and see how many students apply ED, but it should be a pretty big number. This will also help Michigan's yield rate get above that magic 50% number.
Anonymous
11/04/2025 14:06
Subject: Michigan Early Decision - Any Early Anecdotes?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UVA SAT 25%-50%-75%
45% submit
1410-1470-1520
Michigan
51% submit
1360-1460-1530
The middle and top end of UVA and Michigan are similar.
At the bottom end, UVA has better students.
An average SAT of 1460-1470 is solid for a public school. Not quite elite, private school level, but solid.
If you are going to make the assertion, then you need to separate in-state versus OOS applicants/matriculants.
And somehow account for the fact that UM educated about 8000 more students.
Anonymous
11/04/2025 14:05
Subject: Michigan Early Decision - Any Early Anecdotes?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UVA SAT 25%-50%-75%
45% submit
1410-1470-1520
Michigan
51% submit
1360-1460-1530
The middle and top end of UVA and Michigan are similar.
At the bottom end, UVA has better students.
An average SAT of 1460-1470 is solid for a public school. Not quite elite, private school level, but solid.
If you are going to make the assertion, then you need to separate in-state versus OOS applicants/matriculants.
There is no purpose in separating in-state versus out-of-state applicants. Once they are enrolled, the freshman are all the same. I get that some elitist contend that OOS students are somehow superior to in-state students, but Michigan doesn't confer an OOS Michigan degree or an in-state Michigan degree.
Anonymous
11/04/2025 13:57
Subject: Michigan Early Decision - Any Early Anecdotes?
Anonymous wrote:UVA SAT 25%-50%-75%
45% submit
1410-1470-1520
Michigan
51% submit
1360-1460-1530
The middle and top end of UVA and Michigan are similar.
At the bottom end, UVA has better students.
An average SAT of 1460-1470 is solid for a public school. Not quite elite, private school level, but solid.
If you are going to make the assertion, then you need to separate in-state versus OOS applicants/matriculants.
Anonymous
11/04/2025 13:56
Subject: Michigan Early Decision - Any Early Anecdotes?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are many more W school students who apply and attend Michigan than APS students. It’s the MD vs VA split. Numerically there is just no way 70 kids applied ED from YHS. My kid got into Michigan from YHS last year (c/o 2025). They are attending another T20.
Michigan is more desirable for MD residents because UVa is a better school and place/option for instate residents.
Huh?
NP. Boys go to Jupiter to get more stupider.
HTH
Still doesn’t explain your comment. If you think UVA is the better school/place, why is the yield rate so much higher at Michigan with a similar acceptance rate? Costs are equivalent.
In part because Virginia has 3 strong state schools and Michigan has one. Many kids apply to 2 of 3 or all 3 of the Virginia schools and they lose kids to each other.
Michigan is basically UVA and V Tech in one. Or NC State and UNC in one. Or GA and GA Tech in one. They're going to have a higher yield than these other state schools because they're the only game in town.
That still doesn’t answer why the yield rate is so low for MD residents who apply to UVA. It’s obvious. Michigan is a top 20 school. There are no schools in Virginia that are even top 25.
Only by USNWR and no other ranking service. Michigan has only 32 Rhodes scholars. UVA has 57
More a product of the individual, not the college they attended.