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Anonymous wrote:You parents flipping out about MVC are nuts. I'm not delighted about eliminating the DCC but it is what it is. There will still be choice options for your child to go to a STEM magnet and enhancing the science offerings at Einstein could well lead to MVC being offered in future years if there are class fulls of students on that track. That said, your kids must be young because you don't have to drive them to MC. By the time they are taking it, they can drive themselves.

The regional model didn’t set a STEM program at Einstein, did it? Why Einstein will necessarily get higher level offering in the future? Previously STEM-strong kids in Einstein can choose Wheaton engineering or Blair SMCS, and now they can only choose Blair SMCS, so I can understand why that MVC parent was so irritated.

However, Blair SMCS will be less competitive in the future, so hopefully the STEM-strong kids in region 1 will have an easier leeway in the future.

The latest proposal puts a biomedical program at Einstein https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DMJHXR4AA9BD/$file/Boundary%20Studies%20Program%20Analysis%20Update%20251016%20PPT%20REV.pdf

But who knows since they keep changing things reactively to respond to the people who scream the loudest

It would be nice if they asked parents and students what they wanted. I cannot imagine that will be that popular. Enhance the arts and other electives, add stem-ap and leave the ib and humanities. That will make it so there is a little bit for everyone. The biomedical is fine for a cna but not a future doctor or researcher.

It’s extremely frustrating. Their Performing Arts Pathways slide is very reminiscent of Einstein’s VAPA pathway—actually, not just reminiscent, it’s practically identical. So I don’t understand why Einstein can’t have the full Performing Arts Regional program if it’s clearly so heavily influenced by what we already have. Einstein should have the regional Visual Arts and Performing Arts programs—it’s only fair.

I really think it's because Einstein will not have enough seats to host a popular regional program like that. They're trying to solve for overcrowding there and also fill up the new seats at Northwood.

Yes, this is a big part of it, I think. But the proposed offerings at Northwood are pretty meager— not things I could see drawing students away from the other 4 region 1 schools.

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Anonymous wrote:You parents flipping out about MVC are nuts. I'm not delighted about eliminating the DCC but it is what it is. There will still be choice options for your child to go to a STEM magnet and enhancing the science offerings at Einstein could well lead to MVC being offered in future years if there are class fulls of students on that track. That said, your kids must be young because you don't have to drive them to MC. By the time they are taking it, they can drive themselves.

DO you not understand that not everyone can afford a car for their teenagers???

The people saying MCPS is “forcing” them to spend 300k on private school now can though.

Expecting a teenager to buy and maintain a car just to access basic classes is unreasonable. Requiring new drivers to travel all over the county for the courses they need is equally ridiculous. MCPS cannot even offer parking to all students with cars at all schools. MCPS should offer comparable programs at every high school—this shouldn’t be a privilege reserved for a few.

Why should our kids be forced to leave their home school to access opportunities that your kids already have? Why are we expected to settle for a subpar experience while others get what they need without disruption?

So yes, we’re seriously considering private school. At this point, it’s cheaper and less disruptive than moving—and it actually provides the resources our kids deserve.

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Anonymous wrote:Einstein parents are being overly dramatic

I agree, and I'm an Einstein parent.

I do too but with MCPS that dramatic sh&t works

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Anonymous wrote:You parents flipping out about MVC are nuts. I'm not delighted about eliminating the DCC but it is what it is. There will still be choice options for your child to go to a STEM magnet and enhancing the science offerings at Einstein could well lead to MVC being offered in future years if there are class fulls of students on that track. That said, your kids must be young because you don't have to drive them to MC. By the time they are taking it, they can drive themselves.

The regional model didn’t set a STEM program at Einstein, did it? Why Einstein will necessarily get higher level offering in the future? Previously STEM-strong kids in Einstein can choose Wheaton engineering or Blair SMCS, and now they can only choose Blair SMCS, so I can understand why that MVC parent was so irritated.

However, Blair SMCS will be less competitive in the future, so hopefully the STEM-strong kids in region 1 will have an easier leeway in the future.

In what world is a criteria based biomedical magnet not STEM?

Check out their slides. The biomedical science program has a ridiculously slow math pathway (IM math 2 for grade 9), meaning that MVC will still not be offered at Einstein in the future.

MVC will not be offered at Einstein, nor any upper-level STEM as its principal choice and the principal chooses not to allocate funds to it. It's really two different issues. The biomedical is more geared to CNA or lower medical staffing as a trade vs. doctor/nurse/researcher. Its not a bad thing, but it isn't going to elevate Einstein in any way and it may cause families to flee.

You all have been whining on here for months about Einstein not getting a criteria-based program and not having enough science, and now MCPS has put a criteria-based science program at Einstein and you're still whining.

It's very typical of wealthy White people to act like people from other groups are a monolith that all want the same things. Some people like the idea of the biomedical program and others don't. But overall, since for reasons outlined at length on this thread Einstein's existing programs are at risk from from this program proposal while BCC and Whitman only gain things, you'll have to understand why there is a hesitancy or fear about adding a new program with few actual resources budgeted for it while taking away existing resources.

oh get a grip... how many times do we see W schools want/care about on here. no one is a monolith

So we agree that no one is a monolith, I am so happy about that. When someone says "You all have been whining on here for months about Einstein not getting a criteria-based program and not having enough science, and now MCPS has put a criteria-based science program at Einstein and you're still whining." You're acting like we're a monolith, and by the above statement that no one is a monolith, they should not stop with that BS. If you feel others are monolithisizing W parents you should absolutely call that out. Instead you are calling me out for calling out the behavior you disagree with.

This is not a real science-based program. It's more for a CNA-type job than a doctor, nurse, or researcher. And, it's not what the majority of the community wants. What is your obsession with this? This doesn't involve higher-level classes. It makes use of the basic classes already at Einstein.

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Anonymous wrote:You parents flipping out about MVC are nuts. I'm not delighted about eliminating the DCC but it is what it is. There will still be choice options for your child to go to a STEM magnet and enhancing the science offerings at Einstein could well lead to MVC being offered in future years if there are class fulls of students on that track. That said, your kids must be young because you don't have to drive them to MC. By the time they are taking it, they can drive themselves.

The regional model didn’t set a STEM program at Einstein, did it? Why Einstein will necessarily get higher level offering in the future? Previously STEM-strong kids in Einstein can choose Wheaton engineering or Blair SMCS, and now they can only choose Blair SMCS, so I can understand why that MVC parent was so irritated.

However, Blair SMCS will be less competitive in the future, so hopefully the STEM-strong kids in region 1 will have an easier leeway in the future.

The latest proposal puts a biomedical program at Einstein https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DMJHXR4AA9BD/$file/Boundary%20Studies%20Program%20Analysis%20Update%20251016%20PPT%20REV.pdf

But who knows since they keep changing things reactively to respond to the people who scream the loudest

It would be nice if they asked parents and students what they wanted. I cannot imagine that will be that popular. Enhance the arts and other electives, add stem-ap and leave the ib and humanities. That will make it so there is a little bit for everyone. The biomedical is fine for a cna but not a future doctor or researcher.

It’s extremely frustrating. Their Performing Arts Pathways slide is very reminiscent of Einstein’s VAPA pathway—actually, not just reminiscent, it’s practically identical. So I don’t understand why Einstein can’t have the full Performing Arts Regional program if it’s clearly so heavily influenced by what we already have. Einstein should have the regional Visual Arts and Performing Arts programs—it’s only fair.

I really think it's because Einstein will not have enough seats to host a popular regional program like that. They're trying to solve for overcrowding there and also fill up the new seats at Northwood.

That doesn’t make sense. Only four other schools can apply to this regional program. It’s basically VAPA with an application. Considering that the majority of Einstein’s student body is in VAPA, how can they create a regional program with a maximum of, what, 120 students and say Einstein can’t handle that number—when the current VAPA already far exceeds that number? The “overcrowding” excuse is tired and doesn’t hold up.

If you don’t have kids at Einstein or DCC—or aren’t directly impacted—why does this even matter to you? The regional model, allowing only 120 students from other schools, makes little sense, as it ends up leaving more students behind than it helps. For DCC students, it’s especially tough on those interested in STEM, who might otherwise have opportunities at Wheaton or Blair. Meanwhile, Einstein is already overcrowded and has outdated facilities—not even on the list for upgrades. If students were moved out, the school could easily take in 120 or more new students.

There’s a distinction between VAPA and VAC, but VAC falls under the VAPA umbrella. To truly function as a magnet, Einstein would need additional teachers, funding and classes. I suspect the real issue might be the school leadership—if the administration isn’t willing to allocate the necessary resources, there’s little point in establishing a magnet there in the first place. Perhaps the principal at Northwood is more open to making that investment.

If you're planning to remove the arts program, fine—but replace it with something meaningful. The future for Einstein doesn’t look promising right now. It’s not receiving any substantial new resources, and with staff reductions, something has to give. The school is already operating on a bare-bones model, so the cuts will likely hit the arts, other electives, or the few AP classes.

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Anonymous wrote:You parents flipping out about MVC are nuts. I'm not delighted about eliminating the DCC but it is what it is. There will still be choice options for your child to go to a STEM magnet and enhancing the science offerings at Einstein could well lead to MVC being offered in future years if there are class fulls of students on that track. That said, your kids must be young because you don't have to drive them to MC. By the time they are taking it, they can drive themselves.

The regional model didn’t set a STEM program at Einstein, did it? Why Einstein will necessarily get higher level offering in the future? Previously STEM-strong kids in Einstein can choose Wheaton engineering or Blair SMCS, and now they can only choose Blair SMCS, so I can understand why that MVC parent was so irritated.

However, Blair SMCS will be less competitive in the future, so hopefully the STEM-strong kids in region 1 will have an easier leeway in the future.

In what world is a criteria based biomedical magnet not STEM?

Check out their slides. The biomedical science program has a ridiculously slow math pathway (IM math 2 for grade 9), meaning that MVC will still not be offered at Einstein in the future.

MVC will not be offered at Einstein, nor any upper-level STEM as its principal choice and the principal chooses not to allocate funds to it. It's really two different issues. The biomedical is more geared to CNA or lower medical staffing as a trade vs. doctor/nurse/researcher. Its not a bad thing, but it isn't going to elevate Einstein in any way and it may cause families to flee.

You all have been whining on here for months about Einstein not getting a criteria-based program and not having enough science, and now MCPS has put a criteria-based science program at Einstein and you're still whining.

It's very typical of wealthy White people to act like people from other groups are a monolith that all want the same things. Some people like the idea of the biomedical program and others don't. But overall, since for reasons outlined at length on this thread Einstein's existing programs are at risk from from this program proposal while BCC and Whitman only gain things, you'll have to understand why there is a hesitancy or fear about adding a new program with few actual resources budgeted for it while taking away existing resources.

oh get a grip... how many times do we see W schools want/care about on here. no one is a monolith

So we agree that no one is a monolith, I am so happy about that. When someone says "You all have been whining on here for months about Einstein not getting a criteria-based program and not having enough science, and now MCPS has put a criteria-based science program at Einstein and you're still whining." You're acting like we're a monolith, and by the above statement that no one is a monolith, they should not stop with that BS. If you feel others are monolithisizing W parents you should absolutely call that out. Instead you are calling me out for calling out the behavior you disagree with.

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Anonymous wrote:You parents flipping out about MVC are nuts. I'm not delighted about eliminating the DCC but it is what it is. There will still be choice options for your child to go to a STEM magnet and enhancing the science offerings at Einstein could well lead to MVC being offered in future years if there are class fulls of students on that track. That said, your kids must be young because you don't have to drive them to MC. By the time they are taking it, they can drive themselves.

DO you not understand that not everyone can afford a car for their teenagers???

The people saying MCPS is “forcing” them to spend 300k on private school now can though.

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Anonymous wrote:You parents flipping out about MVC are nuts. I'm not delighted about eliminating the DCC but it is what it is. There will still be choice options for your child to go to a STEM magnet and enhancing the science offerings at Einstein could well lead to MVC being offered in future years if there are class fulls of students on that track. That said, your kids must be young because you don't have to drive them to MC. By the time they are taking it, they can drive themselves.

The regional model didn’t set a STEM program at Einstein, did it? Why Einstein will necessarily get higher level offering in the future? Previously STEM-strong kids in Einstein can choose Wheaton engineering or Blair SMCS, and now they can only choose Blair SMCS, so I can understand why that MVC parent was so irritated.

However, Blair SMCS will be less competitive in the future, so hopefully the STEM-strong kids in region 1 will have an easier leeway in the future.

In what world is a criteria based biomedical magnet not STEM?

Check out their slides. The biomedical science program has a ridiculously slow math pathway (IM math 2 for grade 9), meaning that MVC will still not be offered at Einstein in the future.

MVC will not be offered at Einstein, nor any upper-level STEM as its principal choice and the principal chooses not to allocate funds to it. It's really two different issues. The biomedical is more geared to CNA or lower medical staffing as a trade vs. doctor/nurse/researcher. Its not a bad thing, but it isn't going to elevate Einstein in any way and it may cause families to flee.

You all have been whining on here for months about Einstein not getting a criteria-based program and not having enough science, and now MCPS has put a criteria-based science program at Einstein and you're still whining.

It's very typical of wealthy White people to act like people from other groups are a monolith that all want the same things. Some people like the idea of the biomedical program and others don't. But overall, since for reasons outlined at length on this thread Einstein's existing programs are at risk from from this program proposal while BCC and Whitman only gain things, you'll have to understand why there is a hesitancy or fear about adding a new program with few actual resources budgeted for it while taking away existing resources.

oh get a grip... how many times do we see W schools want/care about on here. no one is a monolith

Anonymous wrote:Einstein parents are being overly dramatic

I agree, and I'm an Einstein parent.

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Anonymous wrote:You parents flipping out about MVC are nuts. I'm not delighted about eliminating the DCC but it is what it is. There will still be choice options for your child to go to a STEM magnet and enhancing the science offerings at Einstein could well lead to MVC being offered in future years if there are class fulls of students on that track. That said, your kids must be young because you don't have to drive them to MC. By the time they are taking it, they can drive themselves.

The regional model didn’t set a STEM program at Einstein, did it? Why Einstein will necessarily get higher level offering in the future? Previously STEM-strong kids in Einstein can choose Wheaton engineering or Blair SMCS, and now they can only choose Blair SMCS, so I can understand why that MVC parent was so irritated.

However, Blair SMCS will be less competitive in the future, so hopefully the STEM-strong kids in region 1 will have an easier leeway in the future.

In what world is a criteria based biomedical magnet not STEM?

Check out their slides. The biomedical science program has a ridiculously slow math pathway (IM math 2 for grade 9), meaning that MVC will still not be offered at Einstein in the future.

MVC will not be offered at Einstein, nor any upper-level STEM as its principal choice and the principal chooses not to allocate funds to it. It's really two different issues. The biomedical is more geared to CNA or lower medical staffing as a trade vs. doctor/nurse/researcher. Its not a bad thing, but it isn't going to elevate Einstein in any way and it may cause families to flee.

You all have been whining on here for months about Einstein not getting a criteria-based program and not having enough science, and now MCPS has put a criteria-based science program at Einstein and you're still whining.

I thinks it’s only 1 or 2 people who’s been whining.

Why does this matter to you? Your children already have access to everything they need and want. Instead of supporting equity for all students, you're more focused on tearing others down when they voice legitimate concerns. Why should some schools be well-resourced and others left behind? MCPS talks a lot about equity, opportunity, and inclusion—but this new regional model and the elimination of the DCC go directly against those values. If regional models are such a great idea, then apply first to the W schools and B-CC. Leave the DCC alone and let it continue to serve as a model for true diversity and access.

In reality the DCC has not been anything close to a model for true diversity and access.

-DCC parent

Nice white parents who pat themselves on the back for living in the DCC refuse to believe it doesn’t work for everyone.

No, it doesn't work for everyone but its better than nothing or the regional model. What would you suggest would be better for schools like Einstein?

Einstein parents are being overly dramatic

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Anonymous wrote:You parents flipping out about MVC are nuts. I'm not delighted about eliminating the DCC but it is what it is. There will still be choice options for your child to go to a STEM magnet and enhancing the science offerings at Einstein could well lead to MVC being offered in future years if there are class fulls of students on that track. That said, your kids must be young because you don't have to drive them to MC. By the time they are taking it, they can drive themselves.

The regional model didn’t set a STEM program at Einstein, did it? Why Einstein will necessarily get higher level offering in the future? Previously STEM-strong kids in Einstein can choose Wheaton engineering or Blair SMCS, and now they can only choose Blair SMCS, so I can understand why that MVC parent was so irritated.

However, Blair SMCS will be less competitive in the future, so hopefully the STEM-strong kids in region 1 will have an easier leeway in the future.

The latest proposal puts a biomedical program at Einstein https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DMJHXR4AA9BD/$file/Boundary%20Studies%20Program%20Analysis%20Update%20251016%20PPT%20REV.pdf

But who knows since they keep changing things reactively to respond to the people who scream the loudest

It would be nice if they asked parents and students what they wanted. I cannot imagine that will be that popular. Enhance the arts and other electives, add stem-ap and leave the ib and humanities. That will make it so there is a little bit for everyone. The biomedical is fine for a cna but not a future doctor or researcher.

It’s extremely frustrating. Their Performing Arts Pathways slide is very reminiscent of Einstein’s VAPA pathway—actually, not just reminiscent, it’s practically identical. So I don’t understand why Einstein can’t have the full Performing Arts Regional program if it’s clearly so heavily influenced by what we already have. Einstein should have the regional Visual Arts and Performing Arts programs—it’s only fair.

I really think it's because Einstein will not have enough seats to host a popular regional program like that. They're trying to solve for overcrowding there and also fill up the new seats at Northwood.

That doesn’t make sense. Only four other schools can apply to this regional program. It’s basically VAPA with an application. Considering that the majority of Einstein’s student body is in VAPA, how can they create a regional program with a maximum of, what, 120 students and say Einstein can’t handle that number—when the current VAPA already far exceeds that number? The “overcrowding” excuse is tired and doesn’t hold up.

VAPA has something like 700 students. Einstein has 2000.

Not all arts kids are in vapa. Mine isn't registered.

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Anonymous wrote:You parents flipping out about MVC are nuts. I'm not delighted about eliminating the DCC but it is what it is. There will still be choice options for your child to go to a STEM magnet and enhancing the science offerings at Einstein could well lead to MVC being offered in future years if there are class fulls of students on that track. That said, your kids must be young because you don't have to drive them to MC. By the time they are taking it, they can drive themselves.

The regional model didn’t set a STEM program at Einstein, did it? Why Einstein will necessarily get higher level offering in the future? Previously STEM-strong kids in Einstein can choose Wheaton engineering or Blair SMCS, and now they can only choose Blair SMCS, so I can understand why that MVC parent was so irritated.

However, Blair SMCS will be less competitive in the future, so hopefully the STEM-strong kids in region 1 will have an easier leeway in the future.

The latest proposal puts a biomedical program at Einstein https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DMJHXR4AA9BD/$file/Boundary%20Studies%20Program%20Analysis%20Update%20251016%20PPT%20REV.pdf

But who knows since they keep changing things reactively to respond to the people who scream the loudest

It would be nice if they asked parents and students what they wanted. I cannot imagine that will be that popular. Enhance the arts and other electives, add stem-ap and leave the ib and humanities. That will make it so there is a little bit for everyone. The biomedical is fine for a cna but not a future doctor or researcher.

It’s extremely frustrating. Their Performing Arts Pathways slide is very reminiscent of Einstein’s VAPA pathway—actually, not just reminiscent, it’s practically identical. So I don’t understand why Einstein can’t have the full Performing Arts Regional program if it’s clearly so heavily influenced by what we already have. Einstein should have the regional Visual Arts and Performing Arts programs—it’s only fair.

I really think it's because Einstein will not have enough seats to host a popular regional program like that. They're trying to solve for overcrowding there and also fill up the new seats at Northwood.

That doesn’t make sense. Only four other schools can apply to this regional program. It’s basically VAPA with an application. Considering that the majority of Einstein’s student body is in VAPA, how can they create a regional program with a maximum of, what, 120 students and say Einstein can’t handle that number—when the current VAPA already far exceeds that number? The “overcrowding” excuse is tired and doesn’t hold up.

VAPA has something like 700 students. Einstein has 2000.

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Anonymous wrote:You parents flipping out about MVC are nuts. I'm not delighted about eliminating the DCC but it is what it is. There will still be choice options for your child to go to a STEM magnet and enhancing the science offerings at Einstein could well lead to MVC being offered in future years if there are class fulls of students on that track. That said, your kids must be young because you don't have to drive them to MC. By the time they are taking it, they can drive themselves.

The regional model didn’t set a STEM program at Einstein, did it? Why Einstein will necessarily get higher level offering in the future? Previously STEM-strong kids in Einstein can choose Wheaton engineering or Blair SMCS, and now they can only choose Blair SMCS, so I can understand why that MVC parent was so irritated.

However, Blair SMCS will be less competitive in the future, so hopefully the STEM-strong kids in region 1 will have an easier leeway in the future.

The latest proposal puts a biomedical program at Einstein https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DMJHXR4AA9BD/$file/Boundary%20Studies%20Program%20Analysis%20Update%20251016%20PPT%20REV.pdf

But who knows since they keep changing things reactively to respond to the people who scream the loudest

It would be nice if they asked parents and students what they wanted. I cannot imagine that will be that popular. Enhance the arts and other electives, add stem-ap and leave the ib and humanities. That will make it so there is a little bit for everyone. The biomedical is fine for a cna but not a future doctor or researcher.

It’s extremely frustrating. Their Performing Arts Pathways slide is very reminiscent of Einstein’s VAPA pathway—actually, not just reminiscent, it’s practically identical. So I don’t understand why Einstein can’t have the full Performing Arts Regional program if it’s clearly so heavily influenced by what we already have. Einstein should have the regional Visual Arts and Performing Arts programs—it’s only fair.

I really think it's because Einstein will not have enough seats to host a popular regional program like that. They're trying to solve for overcrowding there and also fill up the new seats at Northwood.

That doesn’t make sense. Only four other schools can apply to this regional program. It’s basically VAPA with an application. Considering that the majority of Einstein’s student body is in VAPA, how can they create a regional program with a maximum of, what, 120 students and say Einstein can’t handle that number—when the current VAPA already far exceeds that number? The “overcrowding” excuse is tired and doesn’t hold up.

Einstein currently has fifteen portables. Overcrowding is real.

That’s not the point they’re trying to make. If the majority of Einstein’s current population is in Visual and Performing Arts Academy , and under the new regional model only schools zoned for Einstein can attend—except for the regional program—then Einstein can clearly support the program’s capacity. VAC has done it countywide. To suggest that Einstein shouldn’t have a popular program, even though it inspired the very model in question, is absurd.

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DO you not understand that not everyone can afford a car for their teenagers???