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Anonymous wrote:Why are people debating semantics?
Kids who are 0.5-1.5 SD above the norm belong in a mildly accelerated path, which is 12th grade calculus. Kids who are +1.5-2.5 SD belong on a more accelerated path. And so on. This is pretty close to the way FCPS already handles math.

It’s absurd to suggest that kids ranging from barely above average through the 98th or 98th percentile would all be well served and have their needs met in the same math class.

There's gen ed, advanced, and accelerated. Gen Ed is precalc by 12th, advanced is calc bc by 12th, and accelerated is Multivariable Calculus by 12th. Additionally, any of them do ap statistics on the side as an additional elective.

Anonymous wrote:Why are people debating semantics?
Kids who are 0.5-1.5 SD above the norm belong in a mildly accelerated path, which is 12th grade calculus. Kids who are +1.5-2.5 SD belong on a more accelerated path. And so on. This is pretty close to the way FCPS already handles math.

It’s absurd to suggest that kids ranging from barely above average through the 98th or 98th percentile would all be well served and have their needs met in the same math class.

Anonymous wrote:Why are people debating semantics?
Kids who are 0.5-1.5 SD above the norm belong in a mildly accelerated path, which is 12th grade calculus. Kids who are +1.5-2.5 SD belong on a more accelerated path. And so on. This is pretty close to the way FCPS already handles math.

It’s absurd to suggest that kids ranging from barely above average through the 98th or 98th percentile would all be well served and have their needs met in the same math class.

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Anonymous wrote:In FCPS, around 10% take Algebra 1 in 7th, around 40 kids take it in 6th, and around 1-3 kids take it before 6th. Those numbers seem appropriate. FCPS already strongly gatekeeps the paths leading to Algebra before 7th. There isn’t a problem with math acceleration in FCPS. They’re pretty spot on.

That sounds fine to me. Kids who don't accelerate, the majority, take Calculus senior year. Perfectly appropriate.

Taking calculus senior year is accelerating one year.

That's your opinion. Expectation for most college bound students is calculus by senior year. STEM interested kids should go further. Kids with no interest in college don't need it. There is no one track for everyone where you can deem what is accelerated and by how much. Your opinion doesn't matter.

LOL. It’s not an “opinion”. That’s just how the math pathways work. Calculus is a college-level subject.

The expectation for college-bound kids is to accelerate by at least one year.

LoL. About 300,000 high school students take AP Calculus exam each year. That is normal, not acceleration!

Equity minimalists are foolishly trying to convince students not to learn calculus as part of their normal and non-accelerated pace of learning, when hundreds of thousands are already learning it successfully.

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Anonymous wrote:In FCPS, around 10% take Algebra 1 in 7th, around 40 kids take it in 6th, and around 1-3 kids take it before 6th. Those numbers seem appropriate. FCPS already strongly gatekeeps the paths leading to Algebra before 7th. There isn’t a problem with math acceleration in FCPS. They’re pretty spot on.

That sounds fine to me. Kids who don't accelerate, the majority, take Calculus senior year. Perfectly appropriate.

Taking calculus senior year is accelerating one year.

That's your opinion. Expectation for most college bound students is calculus by senior year. STEM interested kids should go further. Kids with no interest in college don't need it. There is no one track for everyone where you can deem what is accelerated and by how much. Your opinion doesn't matter.

LOL. It’s not an “opinion”. That’s just how the math pathways work. Calculus is a college-level subject.

The expectation for college-bound kids is to accelerate by at least one year.

LoL. About 300,000 high school students take AP Calculus exam each year. That is normal, not acceleration!

It’s 300,000 out 4,000,000 students per grade, which ends up being 7.5%, but the number is actually higher if you consider any calculus included non AP and dual enrollment.

Among demographics the percentage of students can be higher, Asians 45%, white 18%.

So depending how you look at it, it can be common or uncommon.

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Anonymous wrote:In FCPS, around 10% take Algebra 1 in 7th, around 40 kids take it in 6th, and around 1-3 kids take it before 6th. Those numbers seem appropriate. FCPS already strongly gatekeeps the paths leading to Algebra before 7th. There isn’t a problem with math acceleration in FCPS. They’re pretty spot on.

That sounds fine to me. Kids who don't accelerate, the majority, take Calculus senior year. Perfectly appropriate.

Taking calculus senior year is accelerating one year.

That's your opinion. Expectation for most college bound students is calculus by senior year. STEM interested kids should go further. Kids with no interest in college don't need it. There is no one track for everyone where you can deem what is accelerated and by how much. Your opinion doesn't matter.

LOL. It’s not an “opinion”. That’s just how the math pathways work. Calculus is a college-level subject.

The expectation for college-bound kids is to accelerate by at least one year.

Oh, you're one of those Virginia Math Pathways Initiative (VMPI) people. I thought we managed to thoroughly stomp you all out. Give it up. You can't define Calculus as "accelerated" when the goal of most FCPS students is college. It is just the expected track for most people. Quit trying to stunt the growth and education of other peoples' kids.

Here are the K-12 math standards for Virginia.
https://www.doe.virginia.gov/teaching-learning-assessment/instruction/mathematics/standards-of-learning-for-mathematics

Where is calculus?

"The high school mathematics program includes courses from algebra through calculus."

https://www.fcps.edu/academics/high/mathematics

Yes, high schools offer accelerated, college-level courses, such as AP Calculus.

Calculus is common, but it’s still accelerated. Not even sure why you’re debating this. Just to troll perhaps?

Public High schools are providing normal path to complete calculus before high school graduation. That is not accelerated. Of course, there are slower paths offered to graduate without calculus, for those who find math difficult to learn.

https://www.fcps.edu/academics/graduation-requirements-and-course-planning/high-school-course-sequencing/mathematics

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Anonymous wrote:In FCPS, around 10% take Algebra 1 in 7th, around 40 kids take it in 6th, and around 1-3 kids take it before 6th. Those numbers seem appropriate. FCPS already strongly gatekeeps the paths leading to Algebra before 7th. There isn’t a problem with math acceleration in FCPS. They’re pretty spot on.

That sounds fine to me. Kids who don't accelerate, the majority, take Calculus senior year. Perfectly appropriate.

Taking calculus senior year is accelerating one year.

That's your opinion. Expectation for most college bound students is calculus by senior year. STEM interested kids should go further. Kids with no interest in college don't need it. There is no one track for everyone where you can deem what is accelerated and by how much. Your opinion doesn't matter.

LOL. It’s not an “opinion”. That’s just how the math pathways work. Calculus is a college-level subject.

The expectation for college-bound kids is to accelerate by at least one year.

LoL. About 300,000 high school students take AP Calculus exam each year. That is normal, not acceleration!

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Anonymous wrote:In FCPS, around 10% take Algebra 1 in 7th, around 40 kids take it in 6th, and around 1-3 kids take it before 6th. Those numbers seem appropriate. FCPS already strongly gatekeeps the paths leading to Algebra before 7th. There isn’t a problem with math acceleration in FCPS. They’re pretty spot on.

That sounds fine to me. Kids who don't accelerate, the majority, take Calculus senior year. Perfectly appropriate.

Taking calculus senior year is accelerating one year.

That's your opinion. Expectation for most college bound students is calculus by senior year. STEM interested kids should go further. Kids with no interest in college don't need it. There is no one track for everyone where you can deem what is accelerated and by how much. Your opinion doesn't matter.

LOL. It’s not an “opinion”. That’s just how the math pathways work. Calculus is a college-level subject.

The expectation for college-bound kids is to accelerate by at least one year.

LoL. About 300,000 high school students take AP Calculus exam each year. That is normal, not acceleration!

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Anonymous wrote:In FCPS, around 10% take Algebra 1 in 7th, around 40 kids take it in 6th, and around 1-3 kids take it before 6th. Those numbers seem appropriate. FCPS already strongly gatekeeps the paths leading to Algebra before 7th. There isn’t a problem with math acceleration in FCPS. They’re pretty spot on.

That sounds fine to me. Kids who don't accelerate, the majority, take Calculus senior year. Perfectly appropriate.

Taking calculus senior year is accelerating one year.

That's your opinion. Expectation for most college bound students is calculus by senior year. STEM interested kids should go further. Kids with no interest in college don't need it. There is no one track for everyone where you can deem what is accelerated and by how much. Your opinion doesn't matter.

LOL. It’s not an “opinion”. That’s just how the math pathways work. Calculus is a college-level subject.

The expectation for college-bound kids is to accelerate by at least one year.

Oh, you're one of those Virginia Math Pathways Initiative (VMPI) people. I thought we managed to thoroughly stomp you all out. Give it up. You can't define Calculus as "accelerated" when the goal of most FCPS students is college. It is just the expected track for most people. Quit trying to stunt the growth and education of other peoples' kids.

Here are the K-12 math standards for Virginia.
https://www.doe.virginia.gov/teaching-learning-assessment/instruction/mathematics/standards-of-learning-for-mathematics

Where is calculus?

"The high school mathematics program includes courses from algebra through calculus."

https://www.fcps.edu/academics/high/mathematics

Yes, high schools offer accelerated, college-level courses, such as AP Calculus.

Calculus is common, but it’s still accelerated. Not even sure why you’re debating this. Just to troll perhaps?

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Anonymous wrote:In FCPS, around 10% take Algebra 1 in 7th, around 40 kids take it in 6th, and around 1-3 kids take it before 6th. Those numbers seem appropriate. FCPS already strongly gatekeeps the paths leading to Algebra before 7th. There isn’t a problem with math acceleration in FCPS. They’re pretty spot on.

That sounds fine to me. Kids who don't accelerate, the majority, take Calculus senior year. Perfectly appropriate.

Taking calculus senior year is accelerating one year.

That's your opinion. Expectation for most college bound students is calculus by senior year. STEM interested kids should go further. Kids with no interest in college don't need it. There is no one track for everyone where you can deem what is accelerated and by how much. Your opinion doesn't matter.

LOL. It’s not an “opinion”. That’s just how the math pathways work. Calculus is a college-level subject.

The expectation for college-bound kids is to accelerate by at least one year.

Oh, you're one of those Virginia Math Pathways Initiative (VMPI) people. I thought we managed to thoroughly stomp you all out. Give it up. You can't define Calculus as "accelerated" when the goal of most FCPS students is college. It is just the expected track for most people. Quit trying to stunt the growth and education of other peoples' kids.

Here are the K-12 math standards for Virginia.
https://www.doe.virginia.gov/teaching-learning-assessment/instruction/mathematics/standards-of-learning-for-mathematics

Where is calculus?

"The high school mathematics program includes courses from algebra through calculus."

https://www.fcps.edu/academics/high/mathematics

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Anonymous wrote:In FCPS, around 10% take Algebra 1 in 7th, around 40 kids take it in 6th, and around 1-3 kids take it before 6th. Those numbers seem appropriate. FCPS already strongly gatekeeps the paths leading to Algebra before 7th. There isn’t a problem with math acceleration in FCPS. They’re pretty spot on.

That sounds fine to me. Kids who don't accelerate, the majority, take Calculus senior year. Perfectly appropriate.

Taking calculus senior year is accelerating one year.

That's your opinion. Expectation for most college bound students is calculus by senior year. STEM interested kids should go further. Kids with no interest in college don't need it. There is no one track for everyone where you can deem what is accelerated and by how much. Your opinion doesn't matter.

LOL. It’s not an “opinion”. That’s just how the math pathways work. Calculus is a college-level subject.

The expectation for college-bound kids is to accelerate by at least one year.

Oh, you're one of those Virginia Math Pathways Initiative (VMPI) people. I thought we managed to thoroughly stomp you all out. Give it up. You can't define Calculus as "accelerated" when the goal of most FCPS students is college. It is just the expected track for most people. Quit trying to stunt the growth and education of other peoples' kids.

Here are the K-12 math standards for Virginia.
https://www.doe.virginia.gov/teaching-learning-assessment/instruction/mathematics/standards-of-learning-for-mathematics

Where is calculus?

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Anonymous wrote:Oh it gets worse. 27 schools are piloting algebra 1 in 6th grade next year. Multiple middle schools are doing honors math for all (no more math 7, math 7 honors is the lowest option in 7th grade).

That is a waist of resources, you a need a COGAT score of 145 in quantitative to qualify (that is a 99.9% score), plus other requirements. At our high SES school we have around 5 kids qualify every year. They go to middle school for math first thing in the morning, take math and then they are bussed to the elementary school. That is a better use of resources.