Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the IB people do try to push the "elite" IB program. We are not in an IB school district, but it appears to me that by the nature of it that the group is more segregated than those in an AP program.

In an AP school, some kids take a lot of AP classes, and some may take only one or two. And, of course, some may take none. Anyone fulfilling the requirements can be an "AP Scholar," but it is not a focus at all.

It’s like the people at low-prestige schools who make a big deal out of a kid occasionally getting into a top university. At a prestigious high school that happens regularly, so it doesn’t get called out.

IB schools in FCPS are not prestigious so they try to compensate by making a BFD out of their IB programs.

1) The IB diploma has the same requirement everywhere. It’s a difficult program and shows a boatload of motivation/hard work. Which is why the diploma numbers are not high. Good for those kids!
2) You can’t look at just where kids end up to gauge results. This is esp. true in an area with lots of “donut hole” families. $$ is going to impact the decision of where kids go to school. Lots of parents make over 200k/wont qualify for aid but can’t shell out full pay for top schools. It’s part of why top VA public colleges are so competitive.
3) I agree with a PP-aside from TJ—there is no “prestige” associated with FCPS schools. None. Prestige is for magnet schools and top privates. Your kid goes to a public school. There is some variety in quality. But no “prestige.” Get over it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the IB people do try to push the "elite" IB program. We are not in an IB school district, but it appears to me that by the nature of it that the group is more segregated than those in an AP program.

In an AP school, some kids take a lot of AP classes, and some may take only one or two. And, of course, some may take none. Anyone fulfilling the requirements can be an "AP Scholar," but it is not a focus at all.

It’s like the people at low-prestige schools who make a big deal out of a kid occasionally getting into a top university. At a prestigious high school that happens regularly, so it doesn’t get called out.

IB schools in FCPS are not prestigious so they try to compensate by making a BFD out of their IB programs.

1) The IB diploma has the same requirement everywhere. It’s a difficult program and shows a boatload of motivation/hard work. Which is why the diploma numbers are not high. Good for those kids!
2) You can’t look at just where kids end up to gauge results. This is esp. true in an area with lots of “donut hole” families. $$ is going to impact the decision of where kids go to school. Lots of parents make over 200k/wont qualify for aid but can’t shell out full pay for top schools. It’s part of why top VA public colleges are so competitive.
3) I agree with a PP-aside from TJ—there is no “prestige” associated with FCPS schools. None. Prestige is for magnet schools and top privates. Your kid goes to a public school. There is some variety in quality. But no “prestige.” Get over it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the IB people do try to push the "elite" IB program. We are not in an IB school district, but it appears to me that by the nature of it that the group is more segregated than those in an AP program.

In an AP school, some kids take a lot of AP classes, and some may take only one or two. And, of course, some may take none. Anyone fulfilling the requirements can be an "AP Scholar," but it is not a focus at all.

It’s like the people at low-prestige schools who make a big deal out of a kid occasionally getting into a top university. At a prestigious high school that happens regularly, so it doesn’t get called out.

IB schools in FCPS are not prestigious so they try to compensate by making a BFD out of their IB programs.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the record, using social justice warrior as a pejorative is a tactic also used to silence and police people who call out facts that actual racists are uncomfortable with.

And there you go again, bringing up race all the time then calling people racist. You’re a parody at this point.

I think it makes some people profoundly uncomfortable that some schools excel in ways that others do not. They aren’t wrong to suggest that it’s facilitated by family wealth, but they err in suggesting that it’s due entirely to money or that anyone who favors such an environment for their kids is racist.

Anonymous wrote:Tier 1:
1. TJ
2. Langley
3. McLean
4. Oakton
5. Marshall

Tier 2:
6. Madison
7. Woodson
8. Chantilly
9. West Springfield
10. Robinson

Tier 3:
11. Lake Braddock
12. Centreville
13. Fairfax
14. Westfield
15. South County

Other/tier 4:
16. South Lakes
17. Hayfield
18. Annandale
19. Falls Church
20. Justice
21. Herndon
22. West Potomac
23. Lewis
24. Mount Vernon

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the IB people do try to push the "elite" IB program. We are not in an IB school district, but it appears to me that by the nature of it that the group is more segregated than those in an AP program.

In an AP school, some kids take a lot of AP classes, and some may take only one or two. And, of course, some may take none. Anyone fulfilling the requirements can be an "AP Scholar," but it is not a focus at all.

It’s like the people at low-prestige schools who make a big deal out of a kid occasionally getting into a top university. At a prestigious high school that happens regularly, so it doesn’t get called out.

IB schools in FCPS are not prestigious so they try to compensate by making a BFD out of their IB programs.

No school in FCPS is prestigious except perhaps TJ.

IB diploma candidates deserve to be recognized at graduation because they worked hard for that diploma and very few other kids at the school achieved it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the IB people do try to push the "elite" IB program. We are not in an IB school district, but it appears to me that by the nature of it that the group is more segregated than those in an AP program.

In an AP school, some kids take a lot of AP classes, and some may take only one or two. And, of course, some may take none. Anyone fulfilling the requirements can be an "AP Scholar," but it is not a focus at all.

It’s like the people at low-prestige schools who make a big deal out of a kid occasionally getting into a top university. At a prestigious high school that happens regularly, so it doesn’t get called out.

IB schools in FCPS are not prestigious so they try to compensate by making a BFD out of their IB programs.

Anonymous wrote:I think the IB people do try to push the "elite" IB program. We are not in an IB school district, but it appears to me that by the nature of it that the group is more segregated than those in an AP program.

In an AP school, some kids take a lot of AP classes, and some may take only one or two. And, of course, some may take none. Anyone fulfilling the requirements can be an "AP Scholar," but it is not a focus at all.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I attended two high school graduations this morning and yesterday morning. One school made a big deal of announcing which graduates were “honor graduates” or “IB diploma candidates” as the students went to accept their diplomas. The other simply announced each graduate by name and noted which students were NHS members or AP scholars in the graduation program.

The first school isn’t considered “prestigious” and the calling out of “honor graduates” and “IB diploma candidates” came across as tacky. The second school is known for its excellence and simply announcing each graduate by name came across as dignified. One doubts, however, that the administration of the first school realized it comes across as a wanna-be school.

What a strange comment. You were clearly biased going into these ceremonies.

Anonymous wrote:I attended two high school graduations this morning and yesterday morning. One school made a big deal of announcing which graduates were “honor graduates” or “IB diploma candidates” as the students went to accept their diplomas. The other simply announced each graduate by name and noted which students were NHS members or AP scholars in the graduation program.

The first school isn’t considered “prestigious” and the calling out of “honor graduates” and “IB diploma candidates” came across as tacky. The second school is known for its excellence and simply announcing each graduate by name came across as dignified. One doubts, however, that the administration of the first school realized it comes across as a wanna-be school.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the record, using social justice warrior as a pejorative is a tactic also used to silence and police people who call out facts that actual racists are uncomfortable with.

And there you go again, bringing up race all the time then calling people racist. You’re a parody at this point.