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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, I thought what kept it from being a cliché was he was hiding in his room while the younger folks were celebrating New Year’s and he was playing the same game that ann was playing that drove him crazy.

I thought that was a great call out that he was again just trying to chase and go back to his carefree youth, but as we were shown many times during the movie, when he hurt himself on the island, etc., you can’t go back. You can have temporary moments, but they are fleeting just like your youth was.

Should he have stayed with Ann… Probably not. It just seems like if he was a serial cheater if he got to his mid 50s there probably wasn’t much chance of him learning his lesson. He would have been bogged down with Ginni and the new baby and probably not have been happy. He seemed like a good enough guy that he probably would’ve stepped it up and gone through it all again, but I just don’t think he ever would’ve really been happy.

I think Ann had a real depth to her which they showed - her being the better parent and being able to put her hurt feelings behind her to step up for parents weekend, etc.

But I also think she should’ve stepped up more and gone out of her comfort zone while they were married. I do understand his frustration. As I wrap up my 40s, I can totally see I have some ann tendencies. I totally need to do the same thing. It’s hard. But there’s nothing like a kick in your ass like your husband leaving you to get her to do that. Which is why she started traveling more by herself, putting herself out there with the surfing instructor, even though it didn’t go as planned.

Overall, I was impressed with the complexity of it. Nobody was totally good or totally bad.

Same here! It gave me some pause and made me think. I always feel so tired and it's easy to just veg out when I'm not parenting or working. Hard to reclaim that independent spark of life.

I think people are defensive about Anne because they see themselves in her. Just total inertia. Always watching and sitting while other people do things and I do see more women doing this in mid life than men. Also I think she is not supposed to be 60. They are all early 50s, right?

How was she just sitting doing nothing? She was a great mom, had a beautiful house, welcomed friends frequently and planned an anniversary party for her husband whom she was devoted to. What should she have been doing? Going water skiing?

The things you are listing would not take anyone a lot of time. The kid was in college. Do we have evidence she welcomed friends frequently? Seems like grasping. People are reacting to the fact that she was very physically feeble I think. She seemed much older than the age she was supposed to be.

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Anonymous wrote:Who that has a job that pays them enough to travel to exotic locations is sufficiently not-busy to take this many vacations per year with their old college friends.

Besides one exotic vacation, they drove to the other places. One guy had a lake house so it was free for everyone else. They are clearly UMC but I didn't find it that unrealistic. With kids out of the house, weekend trips are not crazy.

Yeah, PR isn't even that exotic. I don't think they were even there a full week, were they? It was like a long vacation. They were like 4 long weekends a year, mostly local (the lake was in Newburgh, so about an hour north of the city, and Vassar is also only an hour outside the city). Nick was an investment guy, and they get whatever vacation they want; Kate's husband was a private school teacher, so again lots of long weekends and vacation; Claude and Anne had no jobs; and whatshisname was a self-employed interior decorator/designer/developer who clearly could make his own hours. Taking long weekends is nothign for people like that. I was very unclear on what Kate's job was, though. She seemed like a lawyer or something, since she never talked about it--she clearly did something that made decent money but is super boring, requires her to take Acela a bunch, and left her constantly a little stressed out. (Makes me sort of wonder if Tina Fey has friends from UVA that are basically living that life.)

One of my favorite lines was the joke about Acela -- cherry blossoms for spring? DC? No, Japan -- I think we can do better than an Acela vacation! I love Acela -- they have a heavy wine pour.

Wait, what lake would that be in Newburgh?? I thought they were in the Adirondacks

Online said the spring episode filmed in newburgh; fall was in beacon and Poughkeepsie and a farm outside clear spring; and winter was at Mount Peter. My mom grew up in Newburgh and thought it might be the reservoir, which Google tells me is called Lake Washington. Not sure if that’s it. Looking at the map, looks like there is also an Orange Lake near Newburgh. This looks nice!
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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, I thought what kept it from being a cliché was he was hiding in his room while the younger folks were celebrating New Year’s and he was playing the same game that ann was playing that drove him crazy.

I thought that was a great call out that he was again just trying to chase and go back to his carefree youth, but as we were shown many times during the movie, when he hurt himself on the island, etc., you can’t go back. You can have temporary moments, but they are fleeting just like your youth was.

Should he have stayed with Ann… Probably not. It just seems like if he was a serial cheater if he got to his mid 50s there probably wasn’t much chance of him learning his lesson. He would have been bogged down with Ginni and the new baby and probably not have been happy. He seemed like a good enough guy that he probably would’ve stepped it up and gone through it all again, but I just don’t think he ever would’ve really been happy.

I think Ann had a real depth to her which they showed - her being the better parent and being able to put her hurt feelings behind her to step up for parents weekend, etc.

But I also think she should’ve stepped up more and gone out of her comfort zone while they were married. I do understand his frustration. As I wrap up my 40s, I can totally see I have some ann tendencies. I totally need to do the same thing. It’s hard. But there’s nothing like a kick in your ass like your husband leaving you to get her to do that. Which is why she started traveling more by herself, putting herself out there with the surfing instructor, even though it didn’t go as planned.

Overall, I was impressed with the complexity of it. Nobody was totally good or totally bad.

Same here! It gave me some pause and made me think. I always feel so tired and it's easy to just veg out when I'm not parenting or working. Hard to reclaim that independent spark of life.

I think people are defensive about Anne because they see themselves in her. Just total inertia. Always watching and sitting while other people do things and I do see more women doing this in mid life than men. Also I think she is not supposed to be 60. They are all early 50s, right?

How was she just sitting doing nothing? She was a great mom, had a beautiful house, welcomed friends frequently and planned an anniversary party for her husband whom she was devoted to. What should she have been doing? Going water skiing?

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, I thought what kept it from being a cliché was he was hiding in his room while the younger folks were celebrating New Year’s and he was playing the same game that ann was playing that drove him crazy.

I thought that was a great call out that he was again just trying to chase and go back to his carefree youth, but as we were shown many times during the movie, when he hurt himself on the island, etc., you can’t go back. You can have temporary moments, but they are fleeting just like your youth was.

Should he have stayed with Ann… Probably not. It just seems like if he was a serial cheater if he got to his mid 50s there probably wasn’t much chance of him learning his lesson. He would have been bogged down with Ginni and the new baby and probably not have been happy. He seemed like a good enough guy that he probably would’ve stepped it up and gone through it all again, but I just don’t think he ever would’ve really been happy.

I think Ann had a real depth to her which they showed - her being the better parent and being able to put her hurt feelings behind her to step up for parents weekend, etc.

But I also think she should’ve stepped up more and gone out of her comfort zone while they were married. I do understand his frustration. As I wrap up my 40s, I can totally see I have some ann tendencies. I totally need to do the same thing. It’s hard. But there’s nothing like a kick in your ass like your husband leaving you to get her to do that. Which is why she started traveling more by herself, putting herself out there with the surfing instructor, even though it didn’t go as planned.

Overall, I was impressed with the complexity of it. Nobody was totally good or totally bad.

Same here! It gave me some pause and made me think. I always feel so tired and it's easy to just veg out when I'm not parenting or working. Hard to reclaim that independent spark of life.

I think people are defensive about Anne because they see themselves in her. Just total inertia. Always watching and sitting while other people do things and I do see more women doing this in mid life than men. Also I think she is not supposed to be 60. They are all early 50s, right?

How was she just sitting doing nothing? She was a great mom, had a beautiful house, welcomed friends frequently and planned an anniversary party for her husband whom she was devoted to. What should she have been doing? Going water skiing?

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Anonymous wrote:Who that has a job that pays them enough to travel to exotic locations is sufficiently not-busy to take this many vacations per year with their old college friends.

Besides one exotic vacation, they drove to the other places. One guy had a lake house so it was free for everyone else. They are clearly UMC but I didn't find it that unrealistic. With kids out of the house, weekend trips are not crazy.

Yeah, PR isn't even that exotic. I don't think they were even there a full week, were they? It was like a long vacation. They were like 4 long weekends a year, mostly local (the lake was in Newburgh, so about an hour north of the city, and Vassar is also only an hour outside the city). Nick was an investment guy, and they get whatever vacation they want; Kate's husband was a private school teacher, so again lots of long weekends and vacation; Claude and Anne had no jobs; and whatshisname was a self-employed interior decorator/designer/developer who clearly could make his own hours. Taking long weekends is nothign for people like that. I was very unclear on what Kate's job was, though. She seemed like a lawyer or something, since she never talked about it--she clearly did something that made decent money but is super boring, requires her to take Acela a bunch, and left her constantly a little stressed out. (Makes me sort of wonder if Tina Fey has friends from UVA that are basically living that life.)

One of my favorite lines was the joke about Acela -- cherry blossoms for spring? DC? No, Japan -- I think we can do better than an Acela vacation! I love Acela -- they have a heavy wine pour.

Wait, what lake would that be in Newburgh?? I thought they were in the Adirondacks

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, I thought what kept it from being a cliché was he was hiding in his room while the younger folks were celebrating New Year’s and he was playing the same game that ann was playing that drove him crazy.

I thought that was a great call out that he was again just trying to chase and go back to his carefree youth, but as we were shown many times during the movie, when he hurt himself on the island, etc., you can’t go back. You can have temporary moments, but they are fleeting just like your youth was.

Should he have stayed with Ann… Probably not. It just seems like if he was a serial cheater if he got to his mid 50s there probably wasn’t much chance of him learning his lesson. He would have been bogged down with Ginni and the new baby and probably not have been happy. He seemed like a good enough guy that he probably would’ve stepped it up and gone through it all again, but I just don’t think he ever would’ve really been happy.

I think Ann had a real depth to her which they showed - her being the better parent and being able to put her hurt feelings behind her to step up for parents weekend, etc.

But I also think she should’ve stepped up more and gone out of her comfort zone while they were married. I do understand his frustration. As I wrap up my 40s, I can totally see I have some ann tendencies. I totally need to do the same thing. It’s hard. But there’s nothing like a kick in your ass like your husband leaving you to get her to do that. Which is why she started traveling more by herself, putting herself out there with the surfing instructor, even though it didn’t go as planned.

Overall, I was impressed with the complexity of it. Nobody was totally good or totally bad.

Same here! It gave me some pause and made me think. I always feel so tired and it's easy to just veg out when I'm not parenting or working. Hard to reclaim that independent spark of life.

I think people are defensive about Anne because they see themselves in her. Just total inertia. Always watching and sitting while other people do things and I do see more women doing this in mid life than men. Also I think she is not supposed to be 60. They are all early 50s, right?

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, I thought what kept it from being a cliché was he was hiding in his room while the younger folks were celebrating New Year’s and he was playing the same game that ann was playing that drove him crazy.

I thought that was a great call out that he was again just trying to chase and go back to his carefree youth, but as we were shown many times during the movie, when he hurt himself on the island, etc., you can’t go back. You can have temporary moments, but they are fleeting just like your youth was.

Should he have stayed with Ann… Probably not. It just seems like if he was a serial cheater if he got to his mid 50s there probably wasn’t much chance of him learning his lesson. He would have been bogged down with Ginni and the new baby and probably not have been happy. He seemed like a good enough guy that he probably would’ve stepped it up and gone through it all again, but I just don’t think he ever would’ve really been happy.

I think Ann had a real depth to her which they showed - her being the better parent and being able to put her hurt feelings behind her to step up for parents weekend, etc.

But I also think she should’ve stepped up more and gone out of her comfort zone while they were married. I do understand his frustration. As I wrap up my 40s, I can totally see I have some ann tendencies. I totally need to do the same thing. It’s hard. But there’s nothing like a kick in your ass like your husband leaving you to get her to do that. Which is why she started traveling more by herself, putting herself out there with the surfing instructor, even though it didn’t go as planned.

Overall, I was impressed with the complexity of it. Nobody was totally good or totally bad.

Same here! It gave me some pause and made me think. I always feel so tired and it's easy to just veg out when I'm not parenting or working. Hard to reclaim that independent spark of life.

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Anonymous wrote:Who that has a job that pays them enough to travel to exotic locations is sufficiently not-busy to take this many vacations per year with their old college friends.

Besides one exotic vacation, they drove to the other places. One guy had a lake house so it was free for everyone else. They are clearly UMC but I didn't find it that unrealistic. With kids out of the house, weekend trips are not crazy.

Yeah, PR isn't even that exotic. I don't think they were even there a full week, were they? It was like a long vacation. They were like 4 long weekends a year, mostly local (the lake was in Newburgh, so about an hour north of the city, and Vassar is also only an hour outside the city). Nick was an investment guy, and they get whatever vacation they want; Kate's husband was a private school teacher, so again lots of long weekends and vacation; Claude and Anne had no jobs; and whatshisname was a self-employed interior decorator/designer/developer who clearly could make his own hours. Taking long weekends is nothign for people like that. I was very unclear on what Kate's job was, though. She seemed like a lawyer or something, since she never talked about it--she clearly did something that made decent money but is super boring, requires her to take Acela a bunch, and left her constantly a little stressed out. (Makes me sort of wonder if Tina Fey has friends from UVA that are basically living that life.)

One of my favorite lines was the joke about Acela -- cherry blossoms for spring? DC? No, Japan -- I think we can do better than an Acela vacation! I love Acela -- they have a heavy wine pour.

Wait, what lake would that be in Newburgh?? I thought they were in the Adirondacks

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Anonymous wrote:Who that has a job that pays them enough to travel to exotic locations is sufficiently not-busy to take this many vacations per year with their old college friends.

Besides one exotic vacation, they drove to the other places. One guy had a lake house so it was free for everyone else. They are clearly UMC but I didn't find it that unrealistic. With kids out of the house, weekend trips are not crazy.

Yeah, PR isn't even that exotic. I don't think they were even there a full week, were they? It was like a long vacation. They were like 4 long weekends a year, mostly local (the lake was in Newburgh, so about an hour north of the city, and Vassar is also only an hour outside the city). Nick was an investment guy, and they get whatever vacation they want; Kate's husband was a private school teacher, so again lots of long weekends and vacation; Claude and Anne had no jobs; and whatshisname was a self-employed interior decorator/designer/developer who clearly could make his own hours. Taking long weekends is nothign for people like that. I was very unclear on what Kate's job was, though. She seemed like a lawyer or something, since she never talked about it--she clearly did something that made decent money but is super boring, requires her to take Acela a bunch, and left her constantly a little stressed out. (Makes me sort of wonder if Tina Fey has friends from UVA that are basically living that life.)

One of my favorite lines was the joke about Acela -- cherry blossoms for spring? DC? No, Japan -- I think we can do better than an Acela vacation! I love Acela -- they have a heavy wine pour.

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Anonymous wrote:Who that has a job that pays them enough to travel to exotic locations is sufficiently not-busy to take this many vacations per year with their old college friends.

Besides one exotic vacation, they drove to the other places. One guy had a lake house so it was free for everyone else. They are clearly UMC but I didn't find it that unrealistic. With kids out of the house, weekend trips are not crazy.

Yeah, PR isn't even that exotic. I don't think they were even there a full week, were they? It was like a long vacation. They were like 4 long weekends a year, mostly local (the lake was in Newburgh, so about an hour north of the city, and Vassar is also only an hour outside the city). Nick was an investment guy, and they get whatever vacation they want; Kate's husband was a private school teacher, so again lots of long weekends and vacation; Claude and Anne had no jobs; and whatshisname was a self-employed interior decorator/designer/developer who clearly could make his own hours. Taking long weekends is nothign for people like that. I was very unclear on what Kate's job was, though. She seemed like a lawyer or something, since she never talked about it--she clearly did something that made decent money but is super boring, requires her to take Acela a bunch, and left her constantly a little stressed out. (Makes me sort of wonder if Tina Fey has friends from UVA that are basically living that life.)

One of my favorite lines was the joke about Acela -- cherry blossoms for spring? DC? No, Japan -- I think we can do better than an Acela vacation! I love Acela -- they have a heavy wine pour.

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Anonymous wrote:Who that has a job that pays them enough to travel to exotic locations is sufficiently not-busy to take this many vacations per year with their old college friends.

Besides one exotic vacation, they drove to the other places. One guy had a lake house so it was free for everyone else. They are clearly UMC but I didn't find it that unrealistic. With kids out of the house, weekend trips are not crazy.

Yeah, PR isn't even that exotic. I don't think they were even there a full week, were they? It was like a long vacation. They were like 4 long weekends a year, mostly local (the lake was in Newburgh, so about an hour north of the city, and Vassar is also only an hour outside the city). Nick was an investment guy, and they get whatever vacation they want; Kate's husband was a private school teacher, so again lots of long weekends and vacation; Claude and Anne had no jobs; and whatshisname was a self-employed interior decorator/designer/developer who clearly could make his own hours. Taking long weekends is nothign for people like that. I was very unclear on what Kate's job was, though. She seemed like a lawyer or something, since she never talked about it--she clearly did something that made decent money but is super boring, requires her to take Acela a bunch, and left her constantly a little stressed out. (Makes me sort of wonder if Tina Fey has friends from UVA that are basically living that life.)

One of my favorite lines was the joke about Acela -- cherry blossoms for spring? DC? No, Japan -- I think we can do better than an Acela vacation! I love Acela -- they have a heavy wine pour.

Anonymous wrote:Omg he knew about the baby. In addition to the ‘baby’ NYE hat, she wasn’t drinking at new years either, and they chose to spend NYE with her sober healthy friends. If you recall, she was a drinker in earlier episodes- the mention of the ‘pedal pub’ over and over, as example. Also, after he died and people told her it was just a ‘blip’ relationship, she got upset and responded that ‘no, we were building a life together!’ This implies they were both doing it, and she wasn’t springing a baby on him. He knew.

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Anonymous wrote:Who that has a job that pays them enough to travel to exotic locations is sufficiently not-busy to take this many vacations per year with their old college friends.

Besides one exotic vacation, they drove to the other places. One guy had a lake house so it was free for everyone else. They are clearly UMC but I didn't find it that unrealistic. With kids out of the house, weekend trips are not crazy.