Anonymous
04/05/2025 15:18
Subject: This is going badly
The levels of MAGA cope are starting to be astounding.
Now they are getting mad saying inane things like "you leftists just said Trump was a racist, you never said anything about his policies crashing the market!" - We DID warn you that he'd crash the market with his policies, we DID warn you that his hamfisted approach to tariffs was unwise, we DID warn you of many of the problems that we are now seeing unfold.
But you chose not to listen. Or if you listened to anything, it was your own strawmen, the things right wing pundits claimed we were saying, their spin on what we were saying, rather than listening to what we actually said.
Don't be mad at us. We correctly predicted all of this and more. Be mad at the people who misled you.
Now they are getting mad saying inane things like "you leftists just said Trump was a racist, you never said anything about his policies crashing the market!" - We DID warn you that he'd crash the market with his policies, we DID warn you that his hamfisted approach to tariffs was unwise, we DID warn you of many of the problems that we are now seeing unfold.
But you chose not to listen. Or if you listened to anything, it was your own strawmen, the things right wing pundits claimed we were saying, their spin on what we were saying, rather than listening to what we actually said.
Don't be mad at us. We correctly predicted all of this and more. Be mad at the people who misled you.
Anonymous
04/05/2025 15:10
Subject: This is going badly
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You are only kinda right. America is good for your type A start up guy who loves $. Truly perfect country of opportunity and innovation.
For anyone who just wants to live their life in a balanced way it's hard. There's nothing to help a family, healthcare sucks and is only good with $, it's all about competition. If you've ever been to another country you'll find much more of a holistic living experience.
America is def great if you live in a poor, violent undeveloped country of course! But that's like comparing a C student to one that's always failing and in trouble. If you compare A to C student which would you really want? America is that C student when you consider all the intangibles that go to living. We have a lot of options but it's about money.
This is a great observation.
Absolutely spot on.
But we have an unfortunately number of C to F students who grew up to be voters who were completely bamboozled by GOP propaganda and think Trump is going to bring back some nostalgic version of American that never existed. In the meantime, our economy, our freedoms, our protections all down the toilet.
Anonymous
04/05/2025 14:49
Subject: Re:This is going badly
You know what those regulations do? The give you a lunch break. They give you a hard hat if needed. They make the coal mines get inspected to be sure the silica dust is kept to a minimum so you can breathe.
Exactly. Well said PP.
Trumpers should go read The Jonestown Flood by David McCullough to see what life was like before regulation.
Anonymous
04/05/2025 14:36
Subject: This is going badly
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:and you believe this domestic manufacturing boom will manifest itself within what time frame?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I never liked Trump, but I also very much dislike the Democrats. It'd be too strong to say I was rooting for Trump or that I thought he'd to a good job, but I thought there was a *chance* he'd do a good job, and, for the sake of the country, I was really hoping he would. I didn't vote for him, but I also never seriously considered voting for Harris or Biden. I thought Trump's first term was at moments scary but overall pretty good.
With the wind-up, let me say: geez Louise this is going shittily.
You are missing the big picture. It’s bad for Wall Street. But this is going great if you are from Main Street.
No pain, no gain. Finally a president who is fighting for main street.
Manufacturing jobs will have to come back to the US. If these corporations don’t do it, they will keep watching their stock prices sinking.
It could take years. It’ll be painful but it will make us stronger. Our kids will thank us.
We have been through recessions before and came out stronger. Why are people so scared?
NP. You don't understand that manufacturing ended up in SE Asia because it was cheaper. This was beneficial for the US consumer. "Bringing manufacturing back" will mean that products will cost 5-10x to produce.
It will cost 5-10x more but will be better quality and last longer.
The American dream wasn’t about cheap Chinese products.
Americans will pay more for good quality US made products.
Please, the American Dream is more crap, not better quality. Why do you think the dollar store and Walmart do well with middle America?
The gen z and gen alpha crowd are going to have the hardest time with this. They grew up with Amazon and an abundance of cheap clothes from China being sold for a few dollars. They have a wildly skewed vision of what is expensive. I was sitting with my niece while she was shopping online and she was looking at a shirt that she wanted and she said the company makes good quality things but they are too expensive. The shirt was 30 dollars. She then proceeded to load up a cart at Shein, which if you have ever seen those clothes in person you know they have got to be the worst quality of clothes on the face of the planet, but the kids love it. The kids are in for a ride.
Anonymous
04/05/2025 14:35
Subject: This is going badly
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I never liked Trump, but I also very much dislike the Democrats. It'd be too strong to say I was rooting for Trump or that I thought he'd to a good job, but I thought there was a *chance* he'd do a good job, and, for the sake of the country, I was really hoping he would. I didn't vote for him, but I also never seriously considered voting for Harris or Biden. I thought Trump's first term was at moments scary but overall pretty good.
With the wind-up, let me say: geez Louise this is going shittily.
No one in my family who voted for Trump owns any stocks
For all the rich Democrats panicking today- you now know how it must have felt
When Jimmy Carter destroyed 400,000 trucking jobs
When Bill Clinton signed NAFTA, shipping jobs to Mexico and Canada, causing industry to board up in the middle of the country, left to rot
When he deregulated the finance industry and lead us to the 2008 housing crisis
And
When Obama told us: “sorry, some jobs just aren’t coming back”
If you see this post, I hope you look in the mirror at some point today and recognize the destruction your own party has played in the lives of working class Americans
This is what liberation day is all about
No one is going to weep for your stock portfolio
Where were you when we lost our American dream?
Grok does not find your claims accurate. Want to try again?
1. **Jimmy Carter and trucking jobs**: Inaccurate. Carter’s Motor Carrier Act of 1980 deregulated trucking, boosting competition and jobs, not destroying 400,000. **False**
2. **Bill Clinton, NAFTA, and jobs**: Partially accurate. NAFTA (1994) shifted some jobs to Mexico and Canada, affecting U.S. industries, but the claim of widespread industrial collapse is exaggerated. **Partially True**
3. **Deregulation and 2008 crisis**: Misleading. Clinton’s Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act (1999) and other laws contributed to financial risk, but the 2008 crisis stemmed from multiple factors across administrations. **Partially True**
Anonymous
04/05/2025 14:32
Subject: This is going badly
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I never liked Trump, but I also very much dislike the Democrats. It'd be too strong to say I was rooting for Trump or that I thought he'd to a good job, but I thought there was a *chance* he'd do a good job, and, for the sake of the country, I was really hoping he would. I didn't vote for him, but I also never seriously considered voting for Harris or Biden. I thought Trump's first term was at moments scary but overall pretty good.
With the wind-up, let me say: geez Louise this is going shittily.
No one in my family who voted for Trump owns any stocks
For all the rich Democrats panicking today- you now know how it must have felt
When Jimmy Carter destroyed 400,000 trucking jobs
When Bill Clinton signed NAFTA, shipping jobs to Mexico and Canada, causing industry to board up in the middle of the country, left to rot
When he deregulated the finance industry and lead us to the 2008 housing crisis
And
When Obama told us: “sorry, some jobs just aren’t coming back”
If you see this post, I hope you look in the mirror at some point today and recognize the destruction your own party has played in the lives of working class Americans
This is what liberation day is all about
No one is going to weep for your stock portfolio
Where were you when we lost our American dream?
Grok does not find your claims accurate. Want to try again?
Anonymous
04/05/2025 14:21
Subject: This is going badly
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:and you believe this domestic manufacturing boom will manifest itself within what time frame?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I never liked Trump, but I also very much dislike the Democrats. It'd be too strong to say I was rooting for Trump or that I thought he'd to a good job, but I thought there was a *chance* he'd do a good job, and, for the sake of the country, I was really hoping he would. I didn't vote for him, but I also never seriously considered voting for Harris or Biden. I thought Trump's first term was at moments scary but overall pretty good.
With the wind-up, let me say: geez Louise this is going shittily.
You are missing the big picture. It’s bad for Wall Street. But this is going great if you are from Main Street.
No pain, no gain. Finally a president who is fighting for main street.
Manufacturing jobs will have to come back to the US. If these corporations don’t do it, they will keep watching their stock prices sinking.
It could take years. It’ll be painful but it will make us stronger. Our kids will thank us.
We have been through recessions before and came out stronger. Why are people so scared?
NP. You don't understand that manufacturing ended up in SE Asia because it was cheaper. This was beneficial for the US consumer. "Bringing manufacturing back" will mean that products will cost 5-10x to produce.
It will cost 5-10x more but will be better quality and last longer.
The American dream wasn’t about cheap Chinese products.
Americans will pay more for good quality US made products.
Please, the American Dream is more crap, not better quality. Why do you think the dollar store and Walmart do well with middle America?
Anonymous
04/05/2025 14:13
Subject: Re:This is going badly
Anonymous wrote:Trump is a psychopath.
Harris is NOT a psychopath.
That is the ONLY reason I voted for her and did not stay home.
Trump is The Joker. You know, he "just does things" He is chaotic but also predictable. He wants to inflict pain, confusion, ruin, division and despair on all 8 billion of us because...
it's fun for him.
I am betting he will spend his remaining days inflicting as much pain as he can and then off himself when people show up to take him out.
You are so right!
Anonymous
04/05/2025 14:13
Subject: This is going badly
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I never liked Trump, but I also very much dislike the Democrats. It'd be too strong to say I was rooting for Trump or that I thought he'd to a good job, but I thought there was a *chance* he'd do a good job, and, for the sake of the country, I was really hoping he would. I didn't vote for him, but I also never seriously considered voting for Harris or Biden. I thought Trump's first term was at moments scary but overall pretty good.
With the wind-up, let me say: geez Louise this is going shittily.
No one in my family who voted for Trump owns any stocks
For all the rich Democrats panicking today- you now know how it must have felt
When Jimmy Carter destroyed 400,000 trucking jobs
When Bill Clinton signed NAFTA, shipping jobs to Mexico and Canada, causing industry to board up in the middle of the country, left to rot
When he deregulated the finance industry and lead us to the 2008 housing crisis
And
When Obama told us: “sorry, some jobs just aren’t coming back”
If you see this post, I hope you look in the mirror at some point today and recognize the destruction your own party has played in the lives of working class Americans
This is what liberation day is all about
No one is going to weep for your stock portfolio
Where were you when we lost our American dream?
It's true, some jobs are not coming back. Coal is all but dead. do we still have liveries? Is there still a Pony Express? Humankind evolves, and hanging on for dear life for totally outmoded needs, like burning coal to generate electricity are simply no longer tenable.
Anonymous
04/05/2025 14:11
Subject: This is going badly
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I never liked Trump, but I also very much dislike the Democrats. It'd be too strong to say I was rooting for Trump or that I thought he'd to a good job, but I thought there was a *chance* he'd do a good job, and, for the sake of the country, I was really hoping he would. I didn't vote for him, but I also never seriously considered voting for Harris or Biden. I thought Trump's first term was at moments scary but overall pretty good.
With the wind-up, let me say: geez Louise this is going shittily.
No one in my family who voted for Trump owns any stocks
For all the rich Democrats panicking today- you now know how it must have felt
When Jimmy Carter destroyed 400,000 trucking jobs
When Bill Clinton signed NAFTA, shipping jobs to Mexico and Canada, causing industry to board up in the middle of the country, left to rot
When he deregulated the finance industry and lead us to the 2008 housing crisis
And
When Obama told us: “sorry, some jobs just aren’t coming back”
If you see this post, I hope you look in the mirror at some point today and recognize the destruction your own party has played in the lives of working class Americans
This is what liberation day is all about
No one is going to weep for your stock portfolio
Where were you when we lost our American dream?
Just wait til you see how Trump and Musk automate and update long haul trucking and ports. If you think 400,000 trucking jobs lost under Carter as you claim, you ain't seen nothing yet.
Anonymous
04/05/2025 13:48
Subject: This is going badly
Anonymous wrote:Heeheehee enjoy your “new economy”. God, some of you are so freakin’ stupid you really deserve every bad thing.
True. If the worst adversary wanted to cripple the US for good, they wouldn't do anything differently. In fact they wouldn't have had the imagination to even devise this sh*tshow.
Anonymous
04/05/2025 13:41
Subject: This is going badly
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I never liked Trump, but I also very much dislike the Democrats. It'd be too strong to say I was rooting for Trump or that I thought he'd to a good job, but I thought there was a *chance* he'd do a good job, and, for the sake of the country, I was really hoping he would. I didn't vote for him, but I also never seriously considered voting for Harris or Biden. I thought Trump's first term was at moments scary but overall pretty good.
With the wind-up, let me say: geez Louise this is going shittily.
No one in my family who voted for Trump owns any stocks
For all the rich Democrats panicking today- you now know how it must have felt
When Jimmy Carter destroyed 400,000 trucking jobs
When Bill Clinton signed NAFTA, shipping jobs to Mexico and Canada, causing industry to board up in the middle of the country, left to rot
When he deregulated the finance industry and lead us to the 2008 housing crisis
And
When Obama told us: “sorry, some jobs just aren’t coming back”
If you see this post, I hope you look in the mirror at some point today and recognize the destruction your own party has played in the lives of working class Americans
This is what liberation day is all about
No one is going to weep for your stock portfolio
Where were you when we lost our American dream?
I grew up blue collar broke in rural nowhere. Reagan was the OG deregulator. And Reagan fired 11,000 striking federal employees - and then banned them for life from ever working for the federal government again. Unions are the lifeline of blue collar workers.
And speaking of unions and labor, workers have a right to organize, but Co-Presidents Trump and Musk did a podcast together before the election where they laughed about (illegally) busting unions. Tell me again about helping workers?
My blue collar family has always been and still is filled with democrats because they know republicans cut taxes for the wealthiest in this country. And while they’re at it, they take away protections from workers. I have lost count of how often I’ve heard Mitch McConnell mutter the phrase “job-killing regulations”. You know what those regulations do? The give you a lunch break. They give you a hard hat if needed. They make the coal mines get inspected to be sure the silica dust is kept to a minimum so you can breathe. Or they used to, because doge is coming for that too, or haven’t you heard?
And while we’re at it, re: 2008 collapse, remind me who was in office Jan 2001-Jan 2009?
Anonymous
04/05/2025 13:35
Subject: This is going badly
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I never liked Trump, but I also very much dislike the Democrats. It'd be too strong to say I was rooting for Trump or that I thought he'd to a good job, but I thought there was a *chance* he'd do a good job, and, for the sake of the country, I was really hoping he would. I didn't vote for him, but I also never seriously considered voting for Harris or Biden. I thought Trump's first term was at moments scary but overall pretty good.
With the wind-up, let me say: geez Louise this is going shittily.
No one in my family who voted for Trump owns any stocks
For all the rich Democrats panicking today- you now know how it must have felt
When Jimmy Carter destroyed 400,000 trucking jobs
When Bill Clinton signed NAFTA, shipping jobs to Mexico and Canada, causing industry to board up in the middle of the country, left to rot
When he deregulated the finance industry and lead us to the 2008 housing crisis
And
When Obama told us: “sorry, some jobs just aren’t coming back”
If you see this post, I hope you look in the mirror at some point today and recognize the destruction your own party has played in the lives of working class Americans
This is what liberation day is all about
No one is going to weep for your stock portfolio
Where were you when we lost our American dream?
Republicans own stock too. Republicans have never cared about the working class. Trump certainly doesn’t. He’s always manufactured overseas. Prices are going up for everybody. If you’re going to whine, at least inform yourself.
+1 There are loads of middle and UMC and rich republicans who own plenty of stocks and have retirement plans. Good lord. Trump voters aren’t all a bunch of people living on disability in a rural trailer park!
Anonymous
04/05/2025 13:30
Subject: This is going badly
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I never liked Trump, but I also very much dislike the Democrats. It'd be too strong to say I was rooting for Trump or that I thought he'd to a good job, but I thought there was a *chance* he'd do a good job, and, for the sake of the country, I was really hoping he would. I didn't vote for him, but I also never seriously considered voting for Harris or Biden. I thought Trump's first term was at moments scary but overall pretty good.
With the wind-up, let me say: geez Louise this is going shittily.
No one in my family who voted for Trump owns any stocks
For all the rich Democrats panicking today- you now know how it must have felt
When Jimmy Carter destroyed 400,000 trucking jobs
When Bill Clinton signed NAFTA, shipping jobs to Mexico and Canada, causing industry to board up in the middle of the country, left to rot
When he deregulated the finance industry and lead us to the 2008 housing crisis
And
When Obama told us: “sorry, some jobs just aren’t coming back”
If you see this post, I hope you look in the mirror at some point today and recognize the destruction your own party has played in the lives of working class Americans
This is what liberation day is all about
No one is going to weep for your stock portfolio
Where were you when we lost our American dream?
This is the biggest block of schlock I have ever read.
It’s as if PP asked ChatGPT to write something purposely moronic to copy and paste into the thread.
Anonymous
04/05/2025 13:28
Subject: Re:This is going badly
Guys, Cambodia bent the knee. This was all worth it 💀