It’s called selective empathy

Everyone does it

When you point it out, the speaker starts throwing their poo chips 🤣

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Anonymous wrote:The way I see it: He was processed, he had due process and then the authorities made a mistake. The immediately owned up to the mistake. There is also apparent/alleged evidence that he got mixed up in a criminal gang, according to authorities

You do realize that second trials for major crimes are not rare in America? These people wait it out in prison. Costly mistakes everywhere. Hundreds of innocent defendants spend several needless years in prison.
This is not uncommon. Authorities in the fed and state levels make these mistakes

I am not defending nor excising them. But maybe some of you can also defends the innocent who are wrongfully accused. Thee is an entire prison reform movement that you can tap into. This is one man

No.
You’re deflecting. The problem right now is the removal of people by ICE and deportation without due process.

Sure, it’s a sidebar.Many knowledgeable people have weighed in on federal immigration law. It’s an area of law not weighted toward the defendants/visitors/workers. It’s highly codified. And highly against the visitors (whatever word you want to use). So I’m saying there is so much more you can do if you focus on the court system at home. You literally can not fight for everything.

I don’t feel for this guy yet bc I don’t have the full facts. I can tell you with full certainty that detention happens regularly in the US of non criminally liable people. I guess this is context

get informed and involved if you are not already. Getting informed in an individual federal immigration case is the hardest avenue

You’re missing the point entirely. This guy isn’t being detained or even incarcerated in a prison with standards for the treatment of prisoners. He has been incarcerated in a prison that has no protections for the welfare of its prisoners, along WITH the very criminals whom a US judge ruled to be a threat to this man’s life, thereby granting him protection from being sent to El Salvador.

***We’re moved by this one man’s predicament, which was in violation of a court order, but more importantly, we are alarmed by the incompetence or purposeful cruelty that led to indiscriminate dragnets that not only detain people, not only deport people, not only incarcerate people, but place them in one of the most dangerous places they could possibly be — wasting resources that could be used instead to deport convicted criminals, which would actually make us safer.***

TLDR: We aren’t angry because we care so much about this one individual. We are angry about an administration that violates the law, squanders resources, endangers a man’s life, and then offers no to solution to correct their “administrative error.” We are angry because WE ARE SUBJECT TO THIS GOVERNMENT TOO.

Man, this righteous anger would be more persuasive if you guys cared about the Laken Rileys. My guess is you have more emotion about this man than the Americans who have been killed by undocumented migrants…. For years we’ve been told that one off cases like Riley were the unavoidable result of the quantity of people unloved in immigration and no system could possibly be perfect at screening these issues.

We were “alarmed by the incompetence or purposeful cruelty that led to indiscriminate” grotesque and violent killings of Americans. But that didn’t seem to really move people like you.

I actually empathize with you. I was angry that the Biden administration refused to enforce the law, squandered resources, endangered American lives, and then offered no meaningful solution to correct the mess they created at the border. Now you know how we’ve felt for the past four years.

I mean, welcome to the party?

So I shouldn’t hold the Trump administration to a higher standard than I do Laken Riley’s murderer? I want our federal government to be better than vicious criminals with wanton disregard for human life. Thanks for your reply though. It explains how you have no qualms about voting for Trump and no issues with this deportation.

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Anonymous wrote:The way I see it: He was processed, he had due process and then the authorities made a mistake. The immediately owned up to the mistake. There is also apparent/alleged evidence that he got mixed up in a criminal gang, according to authorities

You do realize that second trials for major crimes are not rare in America? These people wait it out in prison. Costly mistakes everywhere. Hundreds of innocent defendants spend several needless years in prison.
This is not uncommon. Authorities in the fed and state levels make these mistakes

I am not defending nor excising them. But maybe some of you can also defends the innocent who are wrongfully accused. Thee is an entire prison reform movement that you can tap into. This is one man

No.
You’re deflecting. The problem right now is the removal of people by ICE and deportation without due process.

Sure, it’s a sidebar.Many knowledgeable people have weighed in on federal immigration law. It’s an area of law not weighted toward the defendants/visitors/workers. It’s highly codified. And highly against the visitors (whatever word you want to use). So I’m saying there is so much more you can do if you focus on the court system at home. You literally can not fight for everything.

I don’t feel for this guy yet bc I don’t have the full facts. I can tell you with full certainty that detention happens regularly in the US of non criminally liable people. I guess this is context

get informed and involved if you are not already. Getting informed in an individual federal immigration case is the hardest avenue

You’re missing the point entirely. This guy isn’t being detained or even incarcerated in a prison with standards for the treatment of prisoners. He has been incarcerated in a prison that has no protections for the welfare of its prisoners, along WITH the very criminals whom a US judge ruled to be a threat to this man’s life, thereby granting him protection from being sent to El Salvador.

***We’re moved by this one man’s predicament, which was in violation of a court order, but more importantly, we are alarmed by the incompetence or purposeful cruelty that led to indiscriminate dragnets that not only detain people, not only deport people, not only incarcerate people, but place them in one of the most dangerous places they could possibly be — wasting resources that could be used instead to deport convicted criminals, which would actually make us safer.***

TLDR: We aren’t angry because we care so much about this one individual. We are angry about an administration that violates the law, squanders resources, endangers a man’s life, and then offers no to solution to correct their “administrative error.” We are angry because WE ARE SUBJECT TO THIS GOVERNMENT TOO.

Man, this righteous anger would be more persuasive if you guys cared about the Laken Rileys. My guess is you have more emotion about this man than the Americans who have been killed by undocumented migrants…. For years we’ve been told that one off cases like Riley were the unavoidable result of the quantity of people unloved in immigration and no system could possibly be perfect at screening these issues.

We were “alarmed by the incompetence or purposeful cruelty that led to indiscriminate” grotesque and violent killings of Americans. But that didn’t seem to really move people like you.

I actually empathize with you. I was angry that the Biden administration refused to enforce the law, squandered resources, endangered American lives, and then offered no meaningful solution to correct the mess they created at the border. Now you know how we’ve felt for the past four years.

I mean, welcome to the party?

Be mad at the law. There are lots of laws to be mad at

It’s legal

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Anonymous wrote:The way I see it: He was processed, he had due process and then the authorities made a mistake. The immediately owned up to the mistake. There is also apparent/alleged evidence that he got mixed up in a criminal gang, according to authorities

You do realize that second trials for major crimes are not rare in America? These people wait it out in prison. Costly mistakes everywhere. Hundreds of innocent defendants spend several needless years in prison.
This is not uncommon. Authorities in the fed and state levels make these mistakes

I am not defending nor excising them. But maybe some of you can also defends the innocent who are wrongfully accused. Thee is an entire prison reform movement that you can tap into. This is one man

No.
You’re deflecting. The problem right now is the removal of people by ICE and deportation without due process.

Sure, it’s a sidebar.Many knowledgeable people have weighed in on federal immigration law. It’s an area of law not weighted toward the defendants/visitors/workers. It’s highly codified. And highly against the visitors (whatever word you want to use). So I’m saying there is so much more you can do if you focus on the court system at home. You literally can not fight for everything.

I don’t feel for this guy yet bc I don’t have the full facts. I can tell you with full certainty that detention happens regularly in the US of non criminally liable people. I guess this is context

get informed and involved if you are not already. Getting informed in an individual federal immigration case is the hardest avenue

You’re missing the point entirely. This guy isn’t being detained or even incarcerated in a prison with standards for the treatment of prisoners. He has been incarcerated in a prison that has no protections for the welfare of its prisoners, along WITH the very criminals whom a US judge ruled to be a threat to this man’s life, thereby granting him protection from being sent to El Salvador.

***We’re moved by this one man’s predicament, which was in violation of a court order, but more importantly, we are alarmed by the incompetence or purposeful cruelty that led to indiscriminate dragnets that not only detain people, not only deport people, not only incarcerate people, but place them in one of the most dangerous places they could possibly be — wasting resources that could be used instead to deport convicted criminals, which would actually make us safer.***

TLDR: We aren’t angry because we care so much about this one individual. We are angry about an administration that violates the law, squanders resources, endangers a man’s life, and then offers no to solution to correct their “administrative error.” We are angry because WE ARE SUBJECT TO THIS GOVERNMENT TOO.

He was a member of MS-13, the end.

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Anonymous wrote:If you are here illegally you should leave the country rather than risk ending up in prison in El Salvador. Don't make up stories about gangs threating your mom's pupusa restaurant.

The stories are not “made up.” He was found to be a danger to the community in 2019 because of his alleged gang affiliation, and that finding was reaffirmed after an appeal.

He has a prominent role in the MS-13 gang’s criminal activities in Prince George’s county.

My county; my CHILDREN, are safer as a result of this confirmed gang member being removed to his home country ( he was not deported).

I am interested in finding out the truth here. Can you please cite sources?

https://wjla.com/news/local/washington-dc-ice-deportation-el-salvador-jail-cecot-worlds-notorious-prison-us-united-states-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-error-detained-court-documents-beltsville-maryland-prince-georges-county-man

The government saying something doesn't make it true. Please, tell me you are not simply repeating this paragraph.

However, the government said he was found to be a danger to the community in 2019 because of his alleged gang affiliation, and that was reaffirmed after an appeal. They also said in a 2019 filing that the source that accused Abrego Garcia of being in MS-13 was “proven and reliable.”

The linked article merely states what the government is now arguing to cover up for an egregious mistake. The lawyers are asking for evidence. I thought you were saying that something had actually been proven in a court of law.

Please remember that the presumption of innocence is a fundamental principle in the United States. The government saying he's a danger when it has every incentive to lie is not proof.

Look, despite what people are arguing NO ONE wants killers on the street. We all want them in jail. But - I thought - we all want innocent people out of jail.

These are among the reasons that the US guarantees due process to EVERYONE, citizen or not, undocumented or protected.

You do not have a presumption of innocence in immigration hearings.

Ok, good to know. And yet, during his immigration hearings, he was still granted "witholding of removal."

Which meant he could still be deported.

Read this.

Take some time to befriend a public defender . They will share that it’s a rodeo.

Prepare a meal for them while you befriend them bc they don’t have a lot of time or leisure space to cook. (Don’t just take but give).

It’s nuts everywhere. Not just this Maryland fed case.

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Anonymous wrote:The way I see it: He was processed, he had due process and then the authorities made a mistake. The immediately owned up to the mistake. There is also apparent/alleged evidence that he got mixed up in a criminal gang, according to authorities

You do realize that second trials for major crimes are not rare in America? These people wait it out in prison. Costly mistakes everywhere. Hundreds of innocent defendants spend several needless years in prison.
This is not uncommon. Authorities in the fed and state levels make these mistakes

I am not defending nor excising them. But maybe some of you can also defends the innocent who are wrongfully accused. Thee is an entire prison reform movement that you can tap into. This is one man

No.
You’re deflecting. The problem right now is the removal of people by ICE and deportation without due process.

Sure, it’s a sidebar.Many knowledgeable people have weighed in on federal immigration law. It’s an area of law not weighted toward the defendants/visitors/workers. It’s highly codified. And highly against the visitors (whatever word you want to use). So I’m saying there is so much more you can do if you focus on the court system at home. You literally can not fight for everything.

I don’t feel for this guy yet bc I don’t have the full facts. I can tell you with full certainty that detention happens regularly in the US of non criminally liable people. I guess this is context

get informed and involved if you are not already. Getting informed in an individual federal immigration case is the hardest avenue

Anonymous wrote:The way I see it: He was processed, he had due process and then the authorities made a mistake. The immediately owned up to the mistake. There is also apparent/alleged evidence that he got mixed up in a criminal gang, according to authorities

You do realize that second trials for major crimes are not rare in America? These people wait it out in prison. Costly mistakes everywhere. Hundreds of innocent defendants spend several needless years in prison.
This is not uncommon. Authorities in the fed and state levels make these mistakes

I am not defending nor excising them. But maybe some of you can also defends the innocent who are wrongfully accused. Thee is an entire prison reform movement that you can tap into. This is one man

No.
You’re deflecting. The problem right now is the removal of people by ICE and deportation without due process.

Anonymous wrote:The way I see it: He was processed, he had due process and then the authorities made a mistake. The immediately owned up to the mistake. There is also apparent/alleged evidence that he got mixed up in a criminal gang, according to authorities

You do realize that second trials for major crimes are not rare in America? These people wait it out in prison. Costly mistakes everywhere. Hundreds of innocent defendants spend several needless years in prison.
This is not uncommon. Authorities in the fed and state levels make these mistakes

I am not defending nor excising them. But maybe some of you can also defends the innocent who are wrongfully accused. Thee is an entire prison reform movement that you can tap into. This is one man

Your entire post minimizes the severity of this situation.

If any of the elites spend anytime associating with the criminal justice system, you’ll find it’s a sausage machine. The immigration system may be better. Sure it’s wild now but it won’t last

The guy has gotten a lot of press He’ll be fine-eventually
Pick up the cause of a nameless jerome or jeremiah while you are worked up. They also need attention and support. Check out the many legal organizations online.

The way I see it: He was processed, he had due process and then the authorities made a mistake. The immediately owned up to the mistake. There is also apparent/alleged evidence that he got mixed up in a criminal gang, according to authorities

You do realize that second trials for major crimes are not rare in America? These people wait it out in prison. Costly mistakes everywhere. Hundreds of innocent defendants spend several needless years in prison.
This is not uncommon. Authorities in the fed and state levels make these mistakes

I am not defending nor excising them. But maybe some of you can also defends the innocent who are wrongfully accused. Thee is an entire prison reform movement that you can tap into. This is one man

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Anonymous wrote:This is worse than Signalgate-it is not just incompetence on display here but depraved indifference to a human life. This is an incredible human and civil rights violation and should be the top story until this man is freed and brought back home! Listen to what Jamie said-this guy was basically snatched off the streets and flown out of the country to a maximum security prison know for civil rights violations!!!!!! And this Dump administration says too bad so sad??????? AYFKM? And maga wonders why people look askance at them? This is monstrous and if you support this you are a monster. Plain and simple. Due process of the law is something that sets us apart from dictatorships and authoritarian regimes. (that means it's good dips$%#!!!!!)

There’s one thing that would have prevented all of this. Don’t sneak over the border illegally in the first place. That was a decision HE made, and if HE would have made a better decision, none of this happens.

You missed the part about due process. Not surprising.