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Anonymous wrote:We had a good run of it for 5 years. Time to get more productivity.

You think people who spend up to 4hrs per day commuting are more productive? Weird. I only have an hour each way and that's still draining to do every day. The point is to burn people out and make them quit, not be more productive.

Why didn't these people buy closer in?

My commute is 30 min but I won’t give this administration more than 8hrs of work. I used to work 8-10hrs at home.

But with all of the breaks, shopping, walks, doing laundry, watching kids, making meals, cleaning house, gym going, pet playing, snacking, TV breaks, yard work, home repairs, it was not 10 hours at home—not for the masses so now we are being called back in to the office.

Why are people so obsessed with whether someone ran an errand during the day? Did they get their work done or not? Shouldn't that be all that matters? If they didn't get their work done, they should get in trouble. If they did get their work done, why do you care if they were doing something personally productive rather than sitting in front of a screen like a zombie?

I am a lawyer and the whole omg you didn't sit in front of your screen during all working hours thing is so bizarre to me. I cannot manufacture work and people have varying degrees of efficiency. why should you care if I am meal prepping because I finished up my work early, instead of reading dumb articles on my computer if I were trapped in the office?

When I had a rush hour commute back when there was no telecommuting and zero WFH most people my office arrived before peak rush hour and left after peak rush hour.

I was in my office around 745 am to 630pm daily. I could not come in late or leave early.

It was way more productive in person, if I tine travel to 1999 our whole 1,000 person office was working 10-11 hours a day.

Was it hard and horrible? Yes. Was it crazy productive for employer, Yes

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Anonymous wrote:We had a good run of it for 5 years. Time to get more productivity.

You think people who spend up to 4hrs per day commuting are more productive? Weird. I only have an hour each way and that's still draining to do every day. The point is to burn people out and make them quit, not be more productive.

Why didn't these people buy closer in?

My commute is 30 min but I won’t give this administration more than 8hrs of work. I used to work 8-10hrs at home.

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Anonymous wrote:We had a good run of it for 5 years. Time to get more productivity.

You think people who spend up to 4hrs per day commuting are more productive? Weird. I only have an hour each way and that's still draining to do every day. The point is to burn people out and make them quit, not be more productive.

We bought closer in you should have planned ahead

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Anonymous wrote:We had a good run of it for 5 years. Time to get more productivity.

You think people who spend up to 4hrs per day commuting are more productive? Weird. I only have an hour each way and that's still draining to do every day. The point is to burn people out and make them quit, not be more productive.

Why didn't these people buy closer in?

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Anonymous wrote:We had a good run of it for 5 years. Time to get more productivity.

So much misery, who hurt you?

Anonymous wrote:We had a good run of it for 5 years. Time to get more productivity.

You think people who spend up to 4hrs per day commuting are more productive? Weird. I only have an hour each way and that's still draining to do every day. The point is to burn people out and make them quit, not be more productive.

I take metro but DH has to drive, and he's never had a telework option so he's been going in all along. Morning is still ok because he leaves super early; the afternoon commute was always variable and occasionally rough but now it's just bad every day. I drop off the kids in the AM and he picks them up. I think we may have to cut remaining weekday evening activities for the kids because he just can't consistently get home in time to take them.

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Anonymous wrote:The restaurants, coffee shops, and flower vendors are starting to flourish again. There are some great things happening, too. I guess you have to take the good with the bad.

Not everything is bad….
- My house is clean since no one is there during the day.

-I am walking more and eating better since I am not snacking at home 24/7 (I bring my own lunch)

-I am working less. 8hrs vs 10hrs at home. They are getting what they are paying for.

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Another thing that’s really good about having true rush hours with everybody back in the office working normal office hours is that the time in between rush-hour is gloriously free of traffic. Because instead of being at target or the dentist office or the vet or the gym or the grocery store, people are in their offices from 9 to 3.

This is a welcome return to status quo for those of us who do things like work overnight in the ER and enjoy going grocery shopping midday mid week

Me, me, me… Are you also happy how things are going at HHS?

You know, I am not alone in enjoying the relatively empty roads again from 9:30 - 2:30. There are tens of thousands of us in the DMV who are the essential workers were never handed the gift of WFH and who work weird schedules and, as a perk for working bizarre hours, we enjoyed empty Targets, hair salons, vets and roads during the day —- until 2020. When these places became clogged all day long with people simultaneously working from home while getting highlights.

It’s fascinating how the roads and the stores are a ghost town now. Especially because every thread on here insists that every former WFH was working all day long.

honestly i think its more the cuts and risk of RIF, where huge swaths of consumers have pulled back. i haven't got a haircut since january for example!

It's this but the beeatchy night shift workers is just a selfish hag.

NP but I assume this night shift worker works in a hospital or some other essential service. I would never call those people selfish as they worked all throughout covid while you sat at home.

I’m happy to call her selfish if she thinks her right to drive to Target supercedes everything.

Exactly. And how do you know we aren't also people who were going into work during the pandemic. That doesn't mean we celebrate tons of our neighbors being laid off in the most cruel ways possible for no real reason other than to dismantle the government so that we can get to Target faster.

FFS she is a selfish, repugnant hag for even leaving that post. People's lives are being totally upended. F her Target runs.

I am upset that agencies and departments within are being gutted. There will be ripple effects probably for an entire generation.

That doesn’t change the fact that tens of thousands of workers were taking care of personal business all day long while “working from home” for the past five years. It’s completely obvious now and proven by traffic patterns.

It undermines the narrative.

How can you prove they weren't running an errand on their break time?

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Anonymous wrote:The restaurants, coffee shops, and flower vendors are starting to flourish again. There are some great things happening, too. I guess you have to take the good with the bad.

Not everything is bad….
- My house is clean since no one is there during the day.

-I am walking more and eating better since I am not snacking at home 24/7 (I bring my own lunch)

-I am working less. 8hrs vs 10hrs at home. They are getting what they are paying for.

My quote got reported and deleted so I’ll try one more time piggybacking on this

Another thing that’s really good about having true rush hours with everybody back in the office working normal office hours is that the time in between rush-hour is gloriously free of traffic. Because instead of being at target or the dentist office or the vet or the gym or the grocery store, people are in their offices from 9 to 3.

This is a welcome return to status quo for those of us who do things like work overnight in the ER and enjoy going grocery shopping midday mid week

Me, me, me… Are you also happy how things are going at HHS?

You know, I am not alone in enjoying the relatively empty roads again from 9:30 - 2:30. There are tens of thousands of us in the DMV who are the essential workers were never handed the gift of WFH and who work weird schedules and, as a perk for working bizarre hours, we enjoyed empty Targets, hair salons, vets and roads during the day —- until 2020. When these places became clogged all day long with people simultaneously working from home while getting highlights.

It’s fascinating how the roads and the stores are a ghost town now. Especially because every thread on here insists that every former WFH was working all day long.

honestly i think its more the cuts and risk of RIF, where huge swaths of consumers have pulled back. i haven't got a haircut since january for example!

It's this but the beeatchy night shift workers is just a selfish hag.

NP but I assume this night shift worker works in a hospital or some other essential service. I would never call those people selfish as they worked all throughout covid while you sat at home.

I’m happy to call her selfish if she thinks her right to drive to Target supercedes everything.

Exactly. And how do you know we aren't also people who were going into work during the pandemic. That doesn't mean we celebrate tons of our neighbors being laid off in the most cruel ways possible for no real reason other than to dismantle the government so that we can get to Target faster.

FFS she is a selfish, repugnant hag for even leaving that post. People's lives are being totally upended. F her Target runs.

I am upset that agencies and departments within are being gutted. There will be ripple effects probably for an entire generation.

That doesn’t change the fact that tens of thousands of workers were taking care of personal business all day long while “working from home” for the past five years. It’s completely obvious now and proven by traffic patterns.

It undermines the narrative.

What don’t you understand about flexible schedules? I worked at home but was allowed to flex my start and stop times to accommodate
Te things like going out to the store, picking up dry cleaning etc. it wasn’t fraud. It was just a perk. Because I wasn’t commuting two to three hours per day, I had that time for other things.

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Anonymous wrote:Golf course by my house was packed with 30-60 year old men every weekday between 9am and 5pm Monday through Friday the last few years.

And there is a bar with a weekday happy hour next to golf course from 3-6pm that has been crowded with 30-60 year old guys last few years.
Precovid was only guys over 60 and SAHMs at course.

Fed manager here. This is why we are all being forced to RTO. Employees couldn’t work 8 straight hours. They said their managers didn’t care and let them work flexible hours, but that likely wasn’t true and/or the manager didn’t have the right to allow that. Too many people were unavailable during the day. Honestly it was only a few rotten apples but they ruined it for everyone.

Or… they could have given fed managers more ability to hire/fire and track employees the way private sector managers can.

You dont speak for me. Or my prior work. We DID have flexible work schedules. Why do you hate that your employees want lives that are balanced and benefit them instead of just your work?

Because you’re earning a taxpayer funded salary to further the mission for the American people. Your mission isn’t to benefit yourself and balance work with your whims.

You can really tell the forever Feds.

RTO is more expensive for the federal government, reduces productivity, and was transparently done with the goal of “torturing” federal employees in the manner in which it was done. Federal workers are people not machines.

They've been telecommuting for decades at my agency to save money for taxpayers, and so staff who need to be in office can actually have office space.

I'm now in office 5 days a week and so are the DOGE people. No one is going to tell them the ins and outs of what they should or shouldn't do in the lowest bid building to protect their health. Good luck, may the odds be forever in your favor.

We had a good run of it for 5 years. Time to get more productivity.

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Anonymous wrote:Golf course by my house was packed with 30-60 year old men every weekday between 9am and 5pm Monday through Friday the last few years.

And there is a bar with a weekday happy hour next to golf course from 3-6pm that has been crowded with 30-60 year old guys last few years.
Precovid was only guys over 60 and SAHMs at course.

Fed manager here. This is why we are all being forced to RTO. Employees couldn’t work 8 straight hours. They said their managers didn’t care and let them work flexible hours, but that likely wasn’t true and/or the manager didn’t have the right to allow that. Too many people were unavailable during the day. Honestly it was only a few rotten apples but they ruined it for everyone.

Or… they could have given fed managers more ability to hire/fire and track employees the way private sector managers can.

You dont speak for me. Or my prior work. We DID have flexible work schedules. Why do you hate that your employees want lives that are balanced and benefit them instead of just your work?

Because you’re earning a taxpayer funded salary to further the mission for the American people. Your mission isn’t to benefit yourself and balance work with your whims.

You can really tell the forever Feds.

RTO is more expensive for the federal government, reduces productivity, and was transparently done with the goal of “torturing” federal employees in the manner in which it was done. Federal workers are people not machines.