Anonymous
Post 02/03/2025 07:47     Subject: Closing USAID

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Mike Benz from X:

USAID literally set up fake AIDS prevention workshops to topple foreign governments


I always assumed USAID was 50% a front for the CIA. I guess Trump has skepticism of IC, so maybe this is the vanguard effort to blunt their reach?


This is Musk, a private citizen, using unvetted non-government "staff" effect a take-over and closure of a tax-payer funded entity. This is a coup.
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2025 07:46     Subject: Closing USAID

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:If USAID information is in a scif the there is something seriously amiss.


Not really. Many of USAID’s overseas foreign partners don’t want to be advertised in their home country as taking US money. It can be dangerous on the ground for them. USAID reps take confidential meetings with foreign government representatives; those discussions would be classified. China is always trying to undercut USAID or sabotage projects, so we need to work carefully and discreetly.

You get that foreign aid is a competition, right? We are competing with Russia and China to influence these foreign governments


Why is it a competition? So it is a foreign influence/opposition-in-other/countries funding mechanism? Are the American people really signing up for this?



You say that like it’s a bad thing. I like America First and spreading our influence, values, and democracy. I’d also rather have stable developing countries, lowering the risk of refugee and health crises.

Yes, the American people signed up for this. it was established by law by Congress and enacted via EO by President Kennedy. The U.S. - by law - is required to have a foreign aid agency.


It is a bad thing. I don’t think we should be colonizing the planet with our values and influence. That’s a white supremacist/Nazi mindset. Especially when other governments feel we are funding internal opposition within their domestic affairs. I know I don’t want other governments influencing our domestic affairs—like Russian Facebook election meddling.

GWB blew through trillions of dollars and killed hundreds of thousands spreading democracy. I thought we learned our lesson about the folly there.

Mutually beneficial, non-coercive trade sounds great. Why are health initiatives, development and refugee prevention so secretive?


Helping prevent the spread of bird flu, aids and Ebola is not "colonizing"
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2025 07:42     Subject: Re:Closing USAID

Anonymous wrote:It’s a cornerstone of security and democracy.

The U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) is the principal U.S. agency to extend assistance to countries recovering from disaster, trying to escape poverty, and engaging in democratic reforms.

Since we are following the Nazi regime, I see why it is being abolished.


Those in national security say without it it’s like punching with one arm tied behind your back.
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2025 07:41     Subject: Closing USAID

Anonymous wrote:Now they are admitting it

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna190388


Well yes they told them to stay home today
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2025 07:40     Subject: Re:Closing USAID

It’s a cornerstone of security and democracy.

The U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) is the principal U.S. agency to extend assistance to countries recovering from disaster, trying to escape poverty, and engaging in democratic reforms.

Since we are following the Nazi regime, I see why it is being abolished.
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2025 06:57     Subject: Closing USAID

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What kind of money are we talking, OP?

Which countries no longer have starving children as a result of all this funneled cash?





Wow. I often wonder how people could have voted for Trump. Then I read a response like this and see there really are awful, cold hearted people out there!


NP. Our own kids are hungry


And about to get a lot hungrier. Trump won't be helping poor Americans.


nope he won't. But sure, let's vote to stop transgender ppl from being in the wrong bathroom.
SMDH. You MAGA are so stupid.
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2025 06:53     Subject: Closing USAID

Anonymous
Post 02/03/2025 01:30     Subject: Closing USAID

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:From this thread I understand that USAID is a drop in the bucket inconsequential benevolent org that also possesses super highly confidential and sensitive info that Elon and other Americans without the highest levels of security clearance can never be permitted to see.

Is who gets food aid really that sensitive or is this a vehicle for more important gov acticity?


No. Go fishing somewhere else. You're in the wrong pond.


Okay. So why is this all so sensitive and secretive?


This idea has been around decades... https://foreignpolicy.com/2014/04/03/cuban-twitter-and-other-times-usaid-pretended-to-be-an-intelligence-agency/
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2025 01:28     Subject: Closing USAID

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Mike Benz from X:

USAID literally set up fake AIDS prevention workshops to topple foreign governments


I always assumed USAID was 50% a front for the CIA. I guess Trump has skepticism of IC, so maybe this is the vanguard effort to blunt their reach?


Even if this was the case, is this not super unsafe to share, especially if these people are still overseas?


"Unsafe to share" -- do you really think our adversaries are a) monitoring DCUM and b) would take action on a rando individual post 13 pages into a post?
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2025 00:17     Subject: Closing USAID

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Mike Benz from X:

USAID literally set up fake AIDS prevention workshops to topple foreign governments


I always assumed USAID was 50% a front for the CIA. I guess Trump has skepticism of IC, so maybe this is the vanguard effort to blunt their reach?


Even if this was the case, is this not super unsafe to share, especially if these people are still overseas?
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2025 00:16     Subject: Closing USAID

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From this thread I understand that USAID is a drop in the bucket inconsequential benevolent org that also possesses super highly confidential and sensitive info that Elon and other Americans without the highest levels of security clearance can never be permitted to see.

Is who gets food aid really that sensitive or is this a vehicle for more important gov acticity?


No. Go fishing somewhere else. You're in the wrong pond.


Okay. So why is this all so sensitive and secretive?


Why is what so sensitive and secret?
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2025 00:15     Subject: Closing USAID

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Mike Benz from X:

USAID literally set up fake AIDS prevention workshops to topple foreign governments


I always assumed USAID was 50% a front for the CIA. I guess Trump has skepticism of IC, so maybe this is the vanguard effort to blunt their reach?


Omg.
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2025 00:02     Subject: Closing USAID

Anonymous wrote:Mike Benz from X:

USAID literally set up fake AIDS prevention workshops to topple foreign governments


I always assumed USAID was 50% a front for the CIA. I guess Trump has skepticism of IC, so maybe this is the vanguard effort to blunt their reach?
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2025 23:53     Subject: Closing USAID

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If USAID information is in a scif the there is something seriously amiss.


Not really. Many of USAID’s overseas foreign partners don’t want to be advertised in their home country as taking US money. It can be dangerous on the ground for them. USAID reps take confidential meetings with foreign government representatives; those discussions would be classified. China is always trying to undercut USAID or sabotage projects, so we need to work carefully and discreetly.

You get that foreign aid is a competition, right? We are competing with Russia and China to influence these foreign governments


Why is it a competition? So it is a foreign influence/opposition-in-other/countries funding mechanism? Are the American people really signing up for this?



You say that like it’s a bad thing. I like America First and spreading our influence, values, and democracy. I’d also rather have stable developing countries, lowering the risk of refugee and health crises.

Yes, the American people signed up for this. it was established by law by Congress and enacted via EO by President Kennedy. The U.S. - by law - is required to have a foreign aid agency.


It is a bad thing. I don’t think we should be colonizing the planet with our values and influence. That’s a white supremacist/Nazi mindset. Especially when other governments feel we are funding internal opposition within their domestic affairs. I know I don’t want other governments influencing our domestic affairs—like Russian Facebook election meddling.

GWB blew through trillions of dollars and killed hundreds of thousands spreading democracy. I thought we learned our lesson about the folly there.

Mutually beneficial, non-coercive trade sounds great. Why are health initiatives, development and refugee prevention so secretive?
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2025 23:44     Subject: Closing USAID

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If USAID information is in a scif the there is something seriously amiss.


Not really. Many of USAID’s overseas foreign partners don’t want to be advertised in their home country as taking US money. It can be dangerous on the ground for them. USAID reps take confidential meetings with foreign government representatives; those discussions would be classified. China is always trying to undercut USAID or sabotage projects, so we need to work carefully and discreetly.

You get that foreign aid is a competition, right? We are competing with Russia and China to influence these foreign governments


Why is it a competition? So it is a foreign influence/opposition-in-other/countries funding mechanism? Are the American people really signing up for this?



You say that like it’s a bad thing. I like America First and spreading our influence, values, and democracy. I’d also rather have stable developing countries, lowering the risk of refugee and health crises.

Yes, the American people signed up for this. it was established by law by Congress and enacted via EO by President Kennedy. The U.S. - by law - is required to have a foreign aid agency.