Anonymous wrote:People here need to consider how this plays politically. The regular tax-paying working people really don’t want to hear that there are feds making good money off their tax dollars while working from home. I’m a liberal and even I kind of feel that way sometimes.

They "boo" if they hear it but unless someone brings it up, they don't think about it. It's not a kitchen table issue. Most people, when they think of government, think of the Dept of Motor Vehicles.

The thing is, me coming to the office doesn't make them happier. If those same people saw our gross moldy buildings overcrowded with people who have terrible commutes, they'd STILL be mad about feds getting paid anything at all. So I may as well be hated from home and save the govt some money, since I'm a taxpayer too.

People here need to consider how this plays politically. The regular tax-paying working people really don’t want to hear that there are feds making good money off their tax dollars while working from home. I’m a liberal and even I kind of feel that way sometimes.

Yeah he just signed EO return back to office.. federal building like NIH , IRS Jangam , FDA silver spring don’t have enough space for every one. How they are going to manage .

Any of y'all that stayed in DC area will get sent back to the office so Trump can declare a 500% increase in people working at the office (up from 6%).

Yes, I will leave. I don't love living in the DMV and thankfully I have an in-demand specialty. The work-life balance has generally been ok in the government, but I'm at a point in my life where I can sacrifice some of that. Between the insane traffic and cost-of-living, it's just not worth it for me to remain here.

I've traveled extensively throughout the United States, and there really are so many interesting and desirable places to live. If people have any flexibility, I would encourage them to think seriously about other places where they might find work. Don't use schools as an excuse: the schools in this area are good but you can find good schools in the suburbs of basically any major city.

I will stay as long as I keep my current hybrid schedule. If not, I have two standing private offers - one is fully remote. Not stressed.

RTO by itself wouldn't make me leave, but changes to benefits package would.

Yes. All the time.

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Anonymous wrote:My plan is to keep doing what I’m doing. I really like my job, and I’m pretty good at it. But I transitioned from part time to full time on the understanding that Jd only have to come in 1-2 days per week. I have no desire to do more than that. My job performance won’t improve but my personal/family life will be hurt.

So I won’t commit time card fraud, and I won’t be coming in five days a week. If that gets me fired, c’est la vie.

Just want to say that it is time card fraud. If you’re supposed to be in person and you’re not- it’s time card fraud. Our time cards have a code for when we’re teleworking vs in person. I’ve seen HR actions related to this and it was called time card fraud.

Right, the PP said "I won’t commit time card fraud" which suggests they will log where they are actually working. They are supposed to be in person, but they are not, and list 'telework' on the time card. This would honestly be reporting on the time card. It would lead to getting fired, probably, but not for time card fraud.

Anonymous wrote:My plan is to keep doing what I’m doing. I really like my job, and I’m pretty good at it. But I transitioned from part time to full time on the understanding that Jd only have to come in 1-2 days per week. I have no desire to do more than that. My job performance won’t improve but my personal/family life will be hurt.

So I won’t commit time card fraud, and I won’t be coming in five days a week. If that gets me fired, c’est la vie.

Just want to say that it is time card fraud. If you’re supposed to be in person and you’re not- it’s time card fraud. Our time cards have a code for when we’re teleworking vs in person. I’ve seen HR actions related to this and it was called time card fraud.

Contractor who currently has to go in three days a week, but it’s pretty lenient and I come in twice a week. I would look for a new job if I was strictly forced to come in five days a week.

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Anonymous wrote:I will be willing to RTO but I will not work a minute early or a minute later than scheduled if I do. And, no laptops will be taken home at night or for snow days.

If they want to go back to 1990, then we go back to 1990.

This. I will check my boxes and nothing more. Need me to stay late? No, sorry, I have an appointment. Log on at home for call with out west coast colleagues. Sorry, I have an appointment.

I do all that now as I View that as a trade off for my flexibility. But that will end immediately upon RTO.

Get 'em tiger. Way to be a team player. You are soooo cool.

Are you 12 years old with this sh--? I'm not trying to be cool or whatever it is you're implying. But, I'm not going to work on a one way street. Sorry if you don't like that. I don't really GAF, though. You're actually going to get LESS from me as an employee . . . but you voted for it. So much winning!

"Taking a break" means a break in service. If you return, all of your benefits will be calculated differently. Unless you can actually retire, this this may not be the best plan OP.

My plan is to keep doing what I’m doing. I really like my job, and I’m pretty good at it. But I transitioned from part time to full time on the understanding that Jd only have to come in 1-2 days per week. I have no desire to do more than that. My job performance won’t improve but my personal/family life will be hurt.

So I won’t commit time card fraud, and I won’t be coming in five days a week. If that gets me fired, c’est la vie.

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Anonymous wrote:I go in every day anyway, but I'm very concerned a few of my best employees will leave if they try to enforce 4-5 days in the office.

I can go in but my mentee, She'll definitely quit. She does the work of 2.5 people, writes brilliantly. The only reason we have her is the work/life balance so she was able to balance the job and having young twins.

We are also going to likely lose some high performers.

Yup. Us too. I have an amazing 30 year old who has a toddler. She works part time and mostly from home, but she is incredible responsive when there’s an issue, gets work done quickly and well. I know for a fact she’s turned down other offers that would pay more but that required full time and offered a lot less flexibility. We’ll lose her quickly if she can’t keep the flexibility she has now.

That’s the problem with these punitive “goal is to get people to quit” initiatives - you lose the good people who will have lots of other options and will keep the dead weight who will drive in to work five days a week but not actually do anything.