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Anonymous wrote:My kid (11th grade) is smart. Like, super smart. Not genius level, but he has maintained his 4.0 with ease and sails through AP and DE classes. His IQ is somewhere around 140. He hasn't taken the SAT yet, but I'm sure he'll do super well.

Despite all this, he keeps telling me he has "no shot" at good colleges (not Ivies, but schools like UC Davis, Georgia Tech, etc). I really don't understand how college admissions have become so competitive that a child in the 99th percentile will have trouble being admitted to schools without insanely low acceptance rates.

Is he exaggerating, or is this true?

I don't think you understand, your kid is basically a dime a dozen in these parts.

They need to figure out what sets them apart from the tens of thousands of other super smart, accomplished kids, and what they are going to contribute to the community they wish to be a part of. Just scores and GPA isn't going to be enough. There are super smart, accomplished kids who can catch a football, or sing different opera or musical theater parts, or who programmed their own AI platform.

I don't understand why people keep saying this when a vast majority of kids "in these parts" are very dim.

The average SAT score in FCPS is about 1200 or about 150 points higher than the rest of the country.
Go to some schools like McLean and Langley and the average SAT is closer to 1300.

A 140 IQ is probably about a 1400 SAT score.
About a quarter of asians get that sort of score or better.
The ratio is even higher in fairfax.

With that said, UC Davis and Ga Tech ar3e definitely possible. Unless he is going CS, then it's a bit of a lottery ticket.

nope, not even close.

It's pretty close. 1400 is roughly 139-140

https://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/satiq.aspx

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Anonymous wrote:My kid (11th grade) is smart. Like, super smart. Not genius level, but he has maintained his 4.0 with ease and sails through AP and DE classes. His IQ is somewhere around 140. He hasn't taken the SAT yet, but I'm sure he'll do super well.

Despite all this, he keeps telling me he has "no shot" at good colleges (not Ivies, but schools like UC Davis, Georgia Tech, etc). I really don't understand how college admissions have become so competitive that a child in the 99th percentile will have trouble being admitted to schools without insanely low acceptance rates.

Is he exaggerating, or is this true?

I don't think you understand, your kid is basically a dime a dozen in these parts.

They need to figure out what sets them apart from the tens of thousands of other super smart, accomplished kids, and what they are going to contribute to the community they wish to be a part of. Just scores and GPA isn't going to be enough. There are super smart, accomplished kids who can catch a football, or sing different opera or musical theater parts, or who programmed their own AI platform.

I don't understand why people keep saying this when a vast majority of kids "in these parts" are very dim.

The average SAT score in FCPS is about 1200 or about 150 points higher than the rest of the country.
Go to some schools like McLean and Langley and the average SAT is closer to 1300.

A 140 IQ is probably about a 1400 SAT score.
About a quarter of asians get that sort of score or better.
The ratio is even higher in fairfax.

With that said, UC Davis and Ga Tech ar3e definitely possible. Unless he is going CS, then it's a bit of a lottery ticket.

nope, not even close.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid (11th grade) is smart. Like, super smart. Not genius level, but he has maintained his 4.0 with ease and sails through AP and DE classes. His IQ is somewhere around 140. He hasn't taken the SAT yet, but I'm sure he'll do super well.

Despite all this, he keeps telling me he has "no shot" at good colleges (not Ivies, but schools like UC Davis, Georgia Tech, etc). I really don't understand how college admissions have become so competitive that a child in the 99th percentile will have trouble being admitted to schools without insanely low acceptance rates.

Is he exaggerating, or is this true?

I don't think you understand, your kid is basically a dime a dozen in these parts.

They need to figure out what sets them apart from the tens of thousands of other super smart, accomplished kids, and what they are going to contribute to the community they wish to be a part of. Just scores and GPA isn't going to be enough. There are super smart, accomplished kids who can catch a football, or sing different opera or musical theater parts, or who programmed their own AI platform.

I don't understand why people keep saying this when a vast majority of kids "in these parts" are very dim.

The average SAT score in FCPS is about 1200 or about 150 points higher than the rest of the country.
Go to some schools like McLean and Langley and the average SAT is closer to 1300.

A 140 IQ is probably about a 1400 SAT score.
About a quarter of asians get that sort of score or better.
The ratio is even higher in fairfax.

With that said, UC Davis and Ga Tech ar3e definitely possible. Unless he is going CS, then it's a bit of a lottery ticket.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid (11th grade) is smart. Like, super smart. Not genius level, but he has maintained his 4.0 with ease and sails through AP and DE classes. His IQ is somewhere around 140. He hasn't taken the SAT yet, but I'm sure he'll do super well.

Despite all this, he keeps telling me he has "no shot" at good colleges (not Ivies, but schools like UC Davis, Georgia Tech, etc). I really don't understand how college admissions have become so competitive that a child in the 99th percentile will have trouble being admitted to schools without insanely low acceptance rates.

Is he exaggerating, or is this true?

I don't think you understand, your kid is basically a dime a dozen in these parts.

They need to figure out what sets them apart from the tens of thousands of other super smart, accomplished kids, and what they are going to contribute to the community they wish to be a part of. Just scores and GPA isn't going to be enough. There are super smart, accomplished kids who can catch a football, or sing different opera or musical theater parts, or who programmed their own AI platform.

I don't understand why people keep saying this when a vast majority of kids "in these parts" are very dim.

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Anonymous wrote:It's true. They would rather take foreigners at 3x the price than your kid. He should apply anyway. The rejections will help him to build resilience for the job market which is this but worse.

Please ignore this xenophobic piece of disinformation. I'm a foreigner, I know other foreigners, and it's just as hard if not harder for our kids to get in. Thank you.

absolutely! international students raise the game for all students: they are so incredibly talented at my kid's elite school--they have enjoyed having them as friends and class peers.

They cheat to get in and then cheat to stay in

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And degrade the culture of integrity adding a win at all costs element

Take us back to the days when real honest men like Donald Trump and George Bush and Ted Kennedy filled out universities.

No. I want to go forward into the days when AMERICANS of all kinds full out universities.

Universities can take whoever they want, especially the private ones that you seem to covet.

I don't "covet" private universities. That's YOU projecting. I do think state dollars need to be spent on state students. Federal dollars on American students. Yes they can take who they want (as of now), we need to change the rules. Why the F- should I pay for a foreigner to gain advantage over my kid, my friends, or my countrymen?!

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Anonymous wrote:My kid (11th grade) is smart. Like, super smart. Not genius level, but he has maintained his 4.0 with ease and sails through AP and DE classes. His IQ is somewhere around 140. He hasn't taken the SAT yet, but I'm sure he'll do super well.

Despite all this, he keeps telling me he has "no shot" at good colleges (not Ivies, but schools like UC Davis, Georgia Tech, etc). I really don't understand how college admissions have become so competitive that a child in the 99th percentile will have trouble being admitted to schools without insanely low acceptance rates.

Is he exaggerating, or is this true?

I don't think you understand, your kid is basically a dime a dozen in these parts.

They need to figure out what sets them apart from the tens of thousands of other super smart, accomplished kids, and what they are going to contribute to the community they wish to be a part of. Just scores and GPA isn't going to be enough. There are super smart, accomplished kids who can catch a football, or sing different opera or musical theater parts, or who programmed their own AI platform.

I don't understand why people keep saying this when a vast majority of kids "in these parts" are very dim.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid (11th grade) is smart. Like, super smart. Not genius level, but he has maintained his 4.0 with ease and sails through AP and DE classes. His IQ is somewhere around 140. He hasn't taken the SAT yet, but I'm sure he'll do super well.

Despite all this, he keeps telling me he has "no shot" at good colleges (not Ivies, but schools like UC Davis, Georgia Tech, etc). I really don't understand how college admissions have become so competitive that a child in the 99th percentile will have trouble being admitted to schools without insanely low acceptance rates.

Is he exaggerating, or is this true?

I don't think you understand, your kid is basically a dime a dozen in these parts.

They need to figure out what sets them apart from the tens of thousands of other super smart, accomplished kids, and what they are going to contribute to the community they wish to be a part of. Just scores and GPA isn't going to be enough. There are super smart, accomplished kids who can catch a football, or sing different opera or musical theater parts, or who programmed their own AI platform.

I don't understand why people keep saying this when a vast majority of kids "in these parts" are very dim.

Not if they are applying to UVA, which is whatwe are talking about. Those kids are usually top 6 percent in their classes with a 4.4-4.5, great test scores and top ECs.

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Anonymous wrote:It's true. They would rather take foreigners at 3x the price than your kid. He should apply anyway. The rejections will help him to build resilience for the job market which is this but worse.

Please ignore this xenophobic piece of disinformation. I'm a foreigner, I know other foreigners, and it's just as hard if not harder for our kids to get in. Thank you.

Sorry about the stupid racist above. Foreign students are a net benefit for our universities.

They are not a net benefit to American students though. And American universities should serve American students first and foremost, rather than existing to milk rich foreigners.

Everyone who is there adds value. Having international students at school is a great thing for our kids intellectually.

The days are over when foreign students would enlighten our spoiled youth about what it’s like to live in a war-torn country or to walk miles to fetch clean drinking water.

Now they are more likely to tell our students which Swiss ski resorts they prefer.

It is not about enlightening US students, it is about being highly intelligent peers who push the US students to be their best and (for the top US students) vice versa.

It's about pushing highly intelligent US students to earn $200/hr taking exams for children of the world's oligarchs.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid (11th grade) is smart. Like, super smart. Not genius level, but he has maintained his 4.0 with ease and sails through AP and DE classes. His IQ is somewhere around 140. He hasn't taken the SAT yet, but I'm sure he'll do super well.

Despite all this, he keeps telling me he has "no shot" at good colleges (not Ivies, but schools like UC Davis, Georgia Tech, etc). I really don't understand how college admissions have become so competitive that a child in the 99th percentile will have trouble being admitted to schools without insanely low acceptance rates.

Is he exaggerating, or is this true?

I don't think you understand, your kid is basically a dime a dozen in these parts.

They need to figure out what sets them apart from the tens of thousands of other super smart, accomplished kids, and what they are going to contribute to the community they wish to be a part of. Just scores and GPA isn't going to be enough. There are super smart, accomplished kids who can catch a football, or sing different opera or musical theater parts, or who programmed their own AI platform.

I don't understand why people keep saying this when a vast majority of kids "in these parts" are very dim.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid (11th grade) is smart. Like, super smart. Not genius level, but he has maintained his 4.0 with ease and sails through AP and DE classes. His IQ is somewhere around 140. He hasn't taken the SAT yet, but I'm sure he'll do super well.

Despite all this, he keeps telling me he has "no shot" at good colleges (not Ivies, but schools like UC Davis, Georgia Tech, etc). I really don't understand how college admissions have become so competitive that a child in the 99th percentile will have trouble being admitted to schools without insanely low acceptance rates.

Is he exaggerating, or is this true?

I don't think you understand, your kid is basically a dime a dozen in these parts.

They need to figure out what sets them apart from the tens of thousands of other super smart, accomplished kids, and what they are going to contribute to the community they wish to be a part of. Just scores and GPA isn't going to be enough. There are super smart, accomplished kids who can catch a football, or sing different opera or musical theater parts, or who programmed their own AI platform.

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Anonymous wrote:Really?! I want LOCAL doctors and health care professionals. I want LOCAL educators and child care. I want LOCAL employees for businesses that take tax credits in cities, states, and in this country. No tax credit unless the employees are LOCAL. This whole outsourcing development of our resources to other countries is a government problem. One that will stop when the people have had enough! European countries do this and we to as well.

Free market capitalism says otherwise. Cope harder.

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Anonymous wrote:It's true. They would rather take foreigners at 3x the price than your kid. He should apply anyway. The rejections will help him to build resilience for the job market which is this but worse.

Please ignore this xenophobic piece of disinformation. I'm a foreigner, I know other foreigners, and it's just as hard if not harder for our kids to get in. Thank you.

absolutely! international students raise the game for all students: they are so incredibly talented at my kid's elite school--they have enjoyed having them as friends and class peers.

They cheat to get in and then cheat to stay in

+1
And degrade the culture of integrity adding a win at all costs element

Take us back to the days when real honest men like Donald Trump and George Bush and Ted Kennedy filled out universities.

No. I want to go forward into the days when AMERICANS of all kinds full out universities.

Universities can take whoever they want, especially the private ones that you seem to covet.

Anonymous wrote:My kid (11th grade) is smart. Like, super smart. Not genius level, but he has maintained his 4.0 with ease and sails through AP and DE classes. His IQ is somewhere around 140. He hasn't taken the SAT yet, but I'm sure he'll do super well.

Despite all this, he keeps telling me he has "no shot" at good colleges (not Ivies, but schools like UC Davis, Georgia Tech, etc). I really don't understand how college admissions have become so competitive that a child in the 99th percentile will have trouble being admitted to schools without insanely low acceptance rates.

Is he exaggerating, or is this true?