Anonymous
Post 08/31/2024 01:20     Subject: Do men love their kids?

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Anonymous wrote:DH claimed to "love" our dog so much - he's love how she'd sit with him, loved talking about her, loved showing people her picture (she was a beautiful large dog he thought was very cool)....and gave no shits whether or not she was walked, did absolutely nothing to help with her anxiety (which had her miserable) or really cared for in any real way.

Dads often seem like this - love like its a noun that you have for someone / something versus a verb that involves actions and care about their wellbeing


This is a really good analogy. Most of the men I’ve known with dogs were the same - they put a roof over their heads, food in their bowls, and enjoyed the aspects of having a dog that were immediately rewarding, like sitting with them or posting pictures online.

But caring about their actual well-being, like walking, regular vet appointments, mental stimulation, socialization and training - most men I’ve known with dogs don’t really care about those things.

It’s more “I’ll take my dog with me when I feel like going for a walk” instead of “I’ll walk my dog every day because it’s best for her health and well-being”.

The dog, kid, wife, are more of a companion for when the man feels like having a companion, rather than a living being that needs to be cared for.


Agree with you and your PP.

The dog and the kids are props to play with when convenient.
Anonymous
Post 08/30/2024 23:57     Subject: Do men love their kids?

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Anonymous wrote:DH claimed to "love" our dog so much - he's love how she'd sit with him, loved talking about her, loved showing people her picture (she was a beautiful large dog he thought was very cool)....and gave no shits whether or not she was walked, did absolutely nothing to help with her anxiety (which had her miserable) or really cared for in any real way.

Dads often seem like this - love like its a noun that you have for someone / something versus a verb that involves actions and care about their wellbeing


This is how my dad "loves" me. He liked to brag on my good grades and college acceptances but he has virtually no interest in me as a person. He only cares about me insofar as I can reflect something positive back on to him.

Fortunately my DH is a way better dad than that. He truly likes spending time with our DD and cares about her as a person. It's more important to him that she feels good about herself and content in her life than that she achieves things he could brag about to others. I love that about him.


My late dad was the same way. But he was not a bad dad. He just wasn't the type to be affectionate. His way of showing that he cares was through actions money for whatever I needed, if something bothered me he inquired about specific things he could do to solve them. But as a society now we are demanding more from men, we want them to see a more emotional side. I am not sure if that's always fair and I say this as a woman. My current DH is more affectionate but not as practical. I still had to call my dad to fix many things or if I needed something urgent to be fix.


PP here and that's not the same. In my case it's not that my dad doesn't know how to show affection. He has never offered to help me or even expressed basic interest in my problems. He doesn't know what my problems in life have been. He simply is not interested. He doesn't think about me as a person who has needs or interests. I can only be a mirror who reflects him back to him.

I don't think all men are like this but my dad is. And I do think in my parents' generation it was easier for men to be like this because they were exempted from the work of actually caring for children. Our mom was also really flawed and self-absorbed in many ways but she didn't really have any choice but to care about us because it was essentially her job. When men are given the option of simply not physically caring for kids some of them will wind up not emotionally caring for them either. That's my dad -- he just does not care.
Anonymous
Post 08/30/2024 23:40     Subject: Do men love their kids?

Anonymous wrote:DH claimed to "love" our dog so much - he's love how she'd sit with him, loved talking about her, loved showing people her picture (she was a beautiful large dog he thought was very cool)....and gave no shits whether or not she was walked, did absolutely nothing to help with her anxiety (which had her miserable) or really cared for in any real way.

Dads often seem like this - love like its a noun that you have for someone / something versus a verb that involves actions and care about their wellbeing


This is a really good analogy. Most of the men I’ve known with dogs were the same - they put a roof over their heads, food in their bowls, and enjoyed the aspects of having a dog that were immediately rewarding, like sitting with them or posting pictures online.

But caring about their actual well-being, like walking, regular vet appointments, mental stimulation, socialization and training - most men I’ve known with dogs don’t really care about those things.

It’s more “I’ll take my dog with me when I feel like going for a walk” instead of “I’ll walk my dog every day because it’s best for her health and well-being”.

The dog, kid, wife, are more of a companion for when the man feels like having a companion, rather than a living being that needs to be cared for.
Anonymous
Post 08/30/2024 22:33     Subject: Do men love their kids?

Anonymous wrote:A better question is how many wives love their children more than they live their husband. Close to 100%, I’d say.



Probably. The love I feel for my children is completely different than any emotion I had before they came along.

I mean, I loved my husband more than anyone when I married him. But I can go my entire work day and only think about him a couple of times.
The way I feel about my kids is different. Unless I am really absorbed in something else, they are constantly in the back of my mind.
Anonymous
Post 08/30/2024 22:14     Subject: Do men love their kids?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do men love their kids? Like truly love their kids or do they just take care of them out of obligation?

You gotta be simple minded to ask those questions…


I have heard many times in family court that the man “loves his kids but cannot care for them.” And then they proceed to prove that with many examples and witnesses.
Anonymous
Post 08/30/2024 22:12     Subject: Do men love their kids?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DH claimed to "love" our dog so much - he's love how she'd sit with him, loved talking about her, loved showing people her picture (she was a beautiful large dog he thought was very cool)....and gave no shits whether or not she was walked, did absolutely nothing to help with her anxiety (which had her miserable) or really cared for in any real way.

Dads often seem like this - love like its a noun that you have for someone / something versus a verb that involves actions and care about their wellbeing


This is how my dad "loves" me. He liked to brag on my good grades and college acceptances but he has virtually no interest in me as a person. He only cares about me insofar as I can reflect something positive back on to him.

Fortunately my DH is a way better dad than that. He truly likes spending time with our DD and cares about her as a person. It's more important to him that she feels good about herself and content in her life than that she achieves things he could brag about to others. I love that about him.


My late dad was the same way. But he was not a bad dad. He just wasn't the type to be affectionate. His way of showing that he cares was through actions money for whatever I needed, if something bothered me he inquired about specific things he could do to solve them. But as a society now we are demanding more from men, we want them to see a more emotional side. I am not sure if that's always fair and I say this as a woman. My current DH is more affectionate but not as practical. I still had to call my dad to fix many things or if I needed something urgent to be fix.

Those aren’t the same things onsite things.

Knowing how to manually fix things doesn’t correlate or negate knowing how to listen to others or put your chosen spouse or own kids’ needs before your own.
Anonymous
Post 08/30/2024 22:10     Subject: Do men love their kids?

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I remember watching Jimmy Kimmel and the dad’s couldn’t even get their kid’s birthday’s right. The mom’s knew all the answer’s


You do know those are set up that way, right? It is funny because we can all laugh at the old Dad doesn't know anything trope. One of the view stereotypes we are still allowed to relish in. Wouldn't be funny if they showed the Dads that do know.

It’s not set up in that the dad stands there and PRETENDS to not know any answers. He really doesn’t.

If they put on multiple dads who could rattle off their kids teachers, doctors, best friends names, I’d applaud that and be ecstatic.

I don’t they have the data or tape to do that though.


Wow. I am not the dad of the year but come on now I know their teachers names, drs names and addresses, best friends names because geez lol


Good for you.

My spouse worked from home and had to take the kid immediately after school to the orthodontist. Same one she’s been to all year monthly and where they all get their teeth cleaned.

He still emergency texts me at work 15 mins before to ask for the location. Wtf is that. I told him if he really cannot recall, to ask the 9 yo not me.


I will shamefully raise my hand and say I am guilty of this as well. It's not that I don't love my kids or don't care I just think some us dads take these little details for granted.


Sounds like you first and also take your spouse and kids for granted too.
Anonymous
Post 08/30/2024 22:09     Subject: Re:Do men love their kids?

Anonymous wrote:Men love their kids and family. They want to provide for them and they are proud of the success of their family members.

This is normal and a biological instinct to give the best to their children.


What does the above even mean?

Give the best to their children? Give their best self and time? Or give the best Nannie’s, tutors and material things?
Anonymous
Post 08/30/2024 22:07     Subject: Do men love their kids?

Anonymous wrote:DH claimed to "love" our dog so much - he's love how she'd sit with him, loved talking about her, loved showing people her picture (she was a beautiful large dog he thought was very cool)....and gave no shits whether or not she was walked, did absolutely nothing to help with her anxiety (which had her miserable) or really cared for in any real way.

Dads often seem like this - love like its a noun that you have for someone / something versus a verb that involves actions and care about their wellbeing


+1

They also act like love or care is not an ongoing thing that has to happen.
Oop, they showed it once and that should enough. Next!
Anonymous
Post 08/30/2024 22:06     Subject: Do men love their kids?

Anonymous wrote:A better question is how many wives love their children more than they live their husband. Close to 100%, I’d say.


Is this...a bad thing?
Anonymous
Post 08/30/2024 21:31     Subject: Do men love their kids?

Anonymous wrote:A better question is how many wives love their children more than they live their husband. Close to 100%, I’d say.[


That's not a fair question, parental love is the purest form of affection, no other relationship can compete with that, it's just biology. It works the same for both parents.
Anonymous
Post 08/30/2024 21:28     Subject: Do men love their kids?

*love*
Anonymous
Post 08/30/2024 21:27     Subject: Do men love their kids?

A better question is how many wives love their children more than they live their husband. Close to 100%, I’d say.
Anonymous
Post 08/30/2024 21:26     Subject: Do men love their kids?

I do! Happiest days of my life when they were born! I worry about them every day.
Anonymous
Post 08/30/2024 21:21     Subject: Do men love their kids?

You’re a stupid person who bases their opinions off the Jimmy Kimmel show.