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Anonymous wrote:I seriously question the emotional/mental health of those that think toxic masculinity is a) a thing and b) somehow pervasive.

Same.

Anonymous wrote:I assume the “marching band is a sport” people are just being facetious. Although I suppose it tracks with our current climate of “words mean whatever the speaker says they mean”…

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Anonymous wrote:My sons have none of it. 19 & 16. They hate that culture.

They are student athletes that don’t party or act that way. They are very empathetic, sensitive.

But most male-only sports are inherently toxic.

Especially problematic are lacrosse, tackle-football, baseball, boxing, soccer, water polo, crew, basketball, crew, and hockey.

What HS / college sports for boys are not toxically masculine?

Of boys or girls sports, girls are a lot more toxic vs boys. I have watched girls team lose games because one click of girls were icing out a player. It is so sad to watch.

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Anonymous wrote:My sons have none of it. 19 & 16. They hate that culture.

They are student athletes that don’t party or act that way. They are very empathetic, sensitive.

But most male-only sports are inherently toxic.

Especially problematic are lacrosse, tackle-football, baseball, boxing, soccer, water polo, crew, basketball, crew, and hockey.

What HS / college sports for boys are not toxically masculine?

Varsity Marching Band, for one.

Marching band is an excellent choice for a sport which has less toxic masculinity because band is a co-ed sport.

and it’s also not a sport

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Anonymous wrote:My sons have none of it. 19 & 16. They hate that culture.

They are student athletes that don’t party or act that way. They are very empathetic, sensitive.

But most male-only sports are inherently toxic.

Especially problematic are lacrosse, tackle-football, baseball, boxing, soccer, water polo, crew, basketball, crew, and hockey.

Lacrosse is one for sure.

Remember those three Duke lacrosse team players who raped that girl ?

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Anonymous wrote:My sons have none of it. 19 & 16. They hate that culture.

They are student athletes that don’t party or act that way. They are very empathetic, sensitive.

But most male-only sports are inherently toxic.

Especially problematic are lacrosse, tackle-football, baseball, boxing, soccer, water polo, crew, basketball, crew, and hockey.

What HS / college sports for boys are not toxically masculine?

Varsity Marching Band, for one.

Marching band is an excellent choice for a sport which has less toxic masculinity because band is a co-ed sport.

and it’s also not a sport

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Anonymous wrote:My sons have none of it. 19 & 16. They hate that culture.

They are student athletes that don’t party or act that way. They are very empathetic, sensitive.

But most male-only sports are inherently toxic.

Especially problematic are lacrosse, tackle-football, baseball, boxing, soccer, water polo, crew, basketball, crew, and hockey.

This is a ridiculous statement.

Just keep lying to yourself.

Meanwhile:

https://www.thesmujournal.ca/athletics/the-vicious-cycle-of-toxic-masculinity-in-varsity-sports

Well, my kids chose to play club instead of HS. So they aren't in the HS culture. The kids in club are 100% about the sort--don't have time to drink or party. My kid gets home from HS does 4 hours of HW and then trains with his teammates until 10pm. Weekends they have games, many out of town. He isn't even going to homecoming this year because of a game conflict. My older son plays in college and none of his friends drink--these are kids that are very, very into their 'health' 'fitness' for the sport and watch everything that goes into their mouth too. He's also an academic at a T10 so like the other one---sports and school and laying low w/out booze is their downtime.

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Anonymous wrote:My sons have none of it. 19 & 16. They hate that culture.

They are student athletes that don’t party or act that way. They are very empathetic, sensitive.

But most male-only sports are inherently toxic.

Especially problematic are lacrosse, tackle-football, baseball, boxing, soccer, water polo, crew, basketball, crew, and hockey.

What HS / college sports for boys are not toxically masculine?

Varsity Marching Band, for one.

Marching band is an excellent choice for a sport which has less toxic masculinity because band is a co-ed sport.

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Anonymous wrote:I seriously question the emotional/mental health of those that think toxic masculinity is a) a thing and b) somehow pervasive.

Same.

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Anonymous wrote:How do you define “toxic masculinity”?

The term “toxic masculinity” points to a particular version of masculinity that is unhealthy for the men and boys who conform to it, and harmful for those around them.

The phrase emphasises the worst aspects of stereotypically masculine attributes. Toxic masculinity is represented by qualities such as violence, dominance, emotional illiteracy, sexual entitlement, and hostility to femininity.

That’s a very dry, nonspecific, clinical sounding definition.

What does it look like IRL? In practice.

Seriously, PP? You can't think of men who have violent tendencies, a dominant personality, no way to connect to emotions like sadness, empathy, etc., believe they are entitled to sex, and dislike women who exhibit behaviors and beliefs that don't feed the male ego?

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Anonymous wrote:If you believe that toxic masculinity is a real thing, what are your thoughts on how to address it? Besides raising boys better what can we do? How do you confront it when it presents itself in your life?

If toxic masculinity is a thing, then so is toxic femininity. Equal opportunity.

“Toxic femininity” does not exist.

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Anonymous wrote:My sons have none of it. 19 & 16. They hate that culture.

They are student athletes that don’t party or act that way. They are very empathetic, sensitive.

But most male-only sports are inherently toxic.

Especially problematic are lacrosse, tackle-football, baseball, boxing, soccer, water polo, crew, basketball, crew, and hockey.

What HS / college sports for boys are not toxically masculine?

Varsity Marching Band, for one.

Anonymous wrote:I seriously question the emotional/mental health of those that think toxic masculinity is a) a thing and b) somehow pervasive.