Anonymous
09/10/2024 07:57
Subject: 28 Rosters Spots/28 Scholarships for NCAA Women's Soccer
Title IX is good in theory but in practice it hasn't lived up to what it was meant to do.
https://www.on3.com/nil/news/boise-state-legal-expert-sam-ehrlich-ncaa-using-title-ix-as-hostage-in-nil-reform/
https://www.on3.com/nil/news/boise-state-legal-expert-sam-ehrlich-ncaa-using-title-ix-as-hostage-in-nil-reform/
Anonymous
09/10/2024 06:11
Subject: 28 Rosters Spots/28 Scholarships for NCAA Women's Soccer
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NWSL just hired people for working with / defining Youth to Pro player pathways.
https://x.com/JeffKassouf/status/1832058341654401170?t=o410D0FTU4T7xIIzzcHHlA&s=19
If anything happens with college soccer NWSL is positioning to address.
UMD’s women’s team had a 2M annual budget. On what planet can NWSL teams afford to replicate that?
In the world where NCAA continues to lose court cases and colleges eventually get forced to pay student athletes for their services. The second this happens several colleges will drop college women's and men's soccer. Maybe some will keep it around but that will be a choice made by the school. Also the schools will need to decide if they want to win or just compete because how much you pay players will determine how competitive the team is.
NWSL and all the pro leagues are watching what happens with NCAA and will capitalize on the changes. Maybe it will include a clearly defined player pathway and associated amateur league (NWSL Next). Maybe clubs will just throw 500k at the top college players in signing bonuses to pull them out of college before graduation.
Either way NWSL is positioning for a world where NCAA + college socver might not exist in the form it's setup as today.
College soccer will exist. Maybe the people who play that want to go pro will not go to college. But most people playing soccer want to play in college just like LAX, Field Hockey, Softball. There is a product there. It will not go anywhere.
This. Title IX will still exist and to fortunes being spent on football will have to be balanced. Mens none revenue may be dead, but women's should flourish
Will exist as D3s do, no athletic scholarship.
Scholarships used to be the only way to pay college athletes.That’s no longer the case. NIL and direct revenue sharing which are also part of the new ncaa rules along with limited roster sizes.
The college system is changing and it’s impossible to know how it all shakes out. But a few things are certain. College sports are not going away and there is more money going into the system than ever before.
Anonymous
09/09/2024 22:02
Subject: 28 Rosters Spots/28 Scholarships for NCAA Women's Soccer
Anonymous wrote:Title IX has many aspects, but if a college spends money on football and has 130 on the team, the college needs to match opportunities and amenities for women athletes. That’s 130 women athletes right there.
Michigan State during COVID decided to cut swimming as a varsity sport. Both men’s and women’s teams were cut. There were 6 more women than men. The college made the cut because it did not want to spend money to renovate the swimming pool to competition standards. The women’s team members sued alleging title ix violations.
The college won at the trial court level, but lost at the court of appeals. The appellate court determined that the trial court used the wrong standard of review. The appellate court looked at the college’s total numbers and found several violations, but a big one was that the difference in total numbers, men v women, was 18 (out of about 1000 athletes), and that number was big enough for another team. So - the college has to form another women’s team.
The restructuring of what are now the Power 4 conferences, and the effect of money being paid by the schools - all have to comply with Title IX.
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Anonymous
09/09/2024 21:04
Subject: 28 Rosters Spots/28 Scholarships for NCAA Women's Soccer
Title IX has many aspects, but if a college spends money on football and has 130 on the team, the college needs to match opportunities and amenities for women athletes. That’s 130 women athletes right there.
Michigan State during COVID decided to cut swimming as a varsity sport. Both men’s and women’s teams were cut. There were 6 more women than men. The college made the cut because it did not want to spend money to renovate the swimming pool to competition standards. The women’s team members sued alleging title ix violations.
The college won at the trial court level, but lost at the court of appeals. The appellate court determined that the trial court used the wrong standard of review. The appellate court looked at the college’s total numbers and found several violations, but a big one was that the difference in total numbers, men v women, was 18 (out of about 1000 athletes), and that number was big enough for another team. So - the college has to form another women’s team.
The restructuring of what are now the Power 4 conferences, and the effect of money being paid by the schools - all have to comply with Title IX.
Michigan State during COVID decided to cut swimming as a varsity sport. Both men’s and women’s teams were cut. There were 6 more women than men. The college made the cut because it did not want to spend money to renovate the swimming pool to competition standards. The women’s team members sued alleging title ix violations.
The college won at the trial court level, but lost at the court of appeals. The appellate court determined that the trial court used the wrong standard of review. The appellate court looked at the college’s total numbers and found several violations, but a big one was that the difference in total numbers, men v women, was 18 (out of about 1000 athletes), and that number was big enough for another team. So - the college has to form another women’s team.
The restructuring of what are now the Power 4 conferences, and the effect of money being paid by the schools - all have to comply with Title IX.
Anonymous
09/09/2024 18:55
Subject: 28 Rosters Spots/28 Scholarships for NCAA Women's Soccer
USL taking seniors in HS now across country, few from NOVA on the DC Power team. GK committed to Duke who is a senior is playing a lot with NC USL team, so it's interesting to see if she'll go with Duke or stay pro. USL has a lot of tiers that NWSL does not and could pull a ton of quality girls not making the 28 spots. JMU for instance has about 40 girls on the team this year... why? No on knows, but it's dumb.
Anonymous
09/09/2024 16:57
Subject: 28 Rosters Spots/28 Scholarships for NCAA Women's Soccer
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NWSL just hired people for working with / defining Youth to Pro player pathways.
https://x.com/JeffKassouf/status/1832058341654401170?t=o410D0FTU4T7xIIzzcHHlA&s=19
If anything happens with college soccer NWSL is positioning to address.
UMD’s women’s team had a 2M annual budget. On what planet can NWSL teams afford to replicate that?
In the world where NCAA continues to lose court cases and colleges eventually get forced to pay student athletes for their services. The second this happens several colleges will drop college women's and men's soccer. Maybe some will keep it around but that will be a choice made by the school. Also the schools will need to decide if they want to win or just compete because how much you pay players will determine how competitive the team is.
NWSL and all the pro leagues are watching what happens with NCAA and will capitalize on the changes. Maybe it will include a clearly defined player pathway and associated amateur league (NWSL Next). Maybe clubs will just throw 500k at the top college players in signing bonuses to pull them out of college before graduation.
Either way NWSL is positioning for a world where NCAA + college socver might not exist in the form it's setup as today.
College soccer will exist. Maybe the people who play that want to go pro will not go to college. But most people playing soccer want to play in college just like LAX, Field Hockey, Softball. There is a product there. It will not go anywhere.
This. Title IX will still exist and to fortunes being spent on football will have to be balanced. Mens none revenue may be dead, but women's should flourish
Will exist as D3s do, no athletic scholarship.
Anonymous
09/09/2024 15:52
Subject: 28 Rosters Spots/28 Scholarships for NCAA Women's Soccer
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NWSL just hired people for working with / defining Youth to Pro player pathways.
https://x.com/JeffKassouf/status/1832058341654401170?t=o410D0FTU4T7xIIzzcHHlA&s=19
If anything happens with college soccer NWSL is positioning to address.
UMD’s women’s team had a 2M annual budget. On what planet can NWSL teams afford to replicate that?
In the world where NCAA continues to lose court cases and colleges eventually get forced to pay student athletes for their services. The second this happens several colleges will drop college women's and men's soccer. Maybe some will keep it around but that will be a choice made by the school. Also the schools will need to decide if they want to win or just compete because how much you pay players will determine how competitive the team is.
NWSL and all the pro leagues are watching what happens with NCAA and will capitalize on the changes. Maybe it will include a clearly defined player pathway and associated amateur league (NWSL Next). Maybe clubs will just throw 500k at the top college players in signing bonuses to pull them out of college before graduation.
Either way NWSL is positioning for a world where NCAA + college socver might not exist in the form it's setup as today.
College soccer will exist. Maybe the people who play that want to go pro will not go to college. But most people playing soccer want to play in college just like LAX, Field Hockey, Softball. There is a product there. It will not go anywhere.
This. Title IX will still exist and to fortunes being spent on football will have to be balanced. Mens none revenue may be dead, but women's should flourish
Anonymous
09/09/2024 15:14
Subject: 28 Rosters Spots/28 Scholarships for NCAA Women's Soccer
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NWSL just hired people for working with / defining Youth to Pro player pathways.
https://x.com/JeffKassouf/status/1832058341654401170?t=o410D0FTU4T7xIIzzcHHlA&s=19
If anything happens with college soccer NWSL is positioning to address.
UMD’s women’s team had a 2M annual budget. On what planet can NWSL teams afford to replicate that?
In the world where NCAA continues to lose court cases and colleges eventually get forced to pay student athletes for their services. The second this happens several colleges will drop college women's and men's soccer. Maybe some will keep it around but that will be a choice made by the school. Also the schools will need to decide if they want to win or just compete because how much you pay players will determine how competitive the team is.
NWSL and all the pro leagues are watching what happens with NCAA and will capitalize on the changes. Maybe it will include a clearly defined player pathway and associated amateur league (NWSL Next). Maybe clubs will just throw 500k at the top college players in signing bonuses to pull them out of college before graduation.
Either way NWSL is positioning for a world where NCAA + college socver might not exist in the form it's setup as today.
College soccer will exist. Maybe the people who play that want to go pro will not go to college. But most people playing soccer want to play in college just like LAX, Field Hockey, Softball. There is a product there. It will not go anywhere.
Anonymous
09/09/2024 15:12
Subject: 28 Rosters Spots/28 Scholarships for NCAA Women's Soccer
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NWSL just hired people for working with / defining Youth to Pro player pathways.
https://x.com/JeffKassouf/status/1832058341654401170?t=o410D0FTU4T7xIIzzcHHlA&s=19
If anything happens with college soccer NWSL is positioning to address.
UMD’s women’s team had a 2M annual budget. On what planet can NWSL teams afford to replicate that?
In the world where NCAA continues to lose court cases and colleges eventually get forced to pay student athletes for their services. The second this happens several colleges will drop college women's and men's soccer. Maybe some will keep it around but that will be a choice made by the school. Also the schools will need to decide if they want to win or just compete because how much you pay players will determine how competitive the team is.
NWSL and all the pro leagues are watching what happens with NCAA and will capitalize on the changes. Maybe it will include a clearly defined player pathway and associated amateur league (NWSL Next). Maybe clubs will just throw 500k at the top college players in signing bonuses to pull them out of college before graduation.
Either way NWSL is positioning for a world where NCAA + college socver might not exist in the form it's setup as today.
You seem to think NWSL is doing much better financially than it actually is.
I think NWSL is making plans for when/if NCAA college sports as we know it today blows up. Also yes, 500k signing bonuses are happening for top players in the NWSL.
Didn't you see that the presiding judge in the house case said NCAA needed to revome all language related to collectives and NIL? This was NCAAs last backstop for controlling players and how they get paid. With it removed NCAA has no power or control over players. From a college perspective if you have to pay players might as well form your own conference + stop paying NCAA.
All kinds of crazy things are coming to college sports soon.
Nothing is blowing up. NCAA has plenty of power over players. Only about 10 schools will want to break from NCAA -- not likely to happen. NWSL makes almost no money -- there is nothing on the table that will change that.
Anonymous
09/09/2024 15:11
Subject: 28 Rosters Spots/28 Scholarships for NCAA Women's Soccer
Anonymous wrote:Education and paid athletes shouldn't mix. Give the NFL 10-15 years, that product will become even worse than where it stands now.
The golden days of the NFL was in the 2000's, now with NIL, transfers, etc, the product is going to get worse until something changes. All of this is just trying to slap a band aid on a problem.
NFL is in great shape. Better than at any point in the past. What are you talking about?
Anonymous
09/09/2024 11:33
Subject: 28 Rosters Spots/28 Scholarships for NCAA Women's Soccer
Anonymous wrote:Education and paid athletes shouldn't mix. Give the NFL 10-15 years, that product will become even worse than where it stands now.
The golden days of the NFL was in the 2000's, now with NIL, transfers, etc, the product is going to get worse until something changes. All of this is just trying to slap a band aid on a problem.
Your label of "problem" all depends on perspective.
If you are a college or pro team with salary caps. NCAA is great you get access to labor who aren't allowed to earn the market price for the value of their skill.
If you are a player the problem is not getting paid what you're worth.
The end result which is win on the field can be achieved in many ways.
Anonymous
09/09/2024 11:00
Subject: 28 Rosters Spots/28 Scholarships for NCAA Women's Soccer
Education and paid athletes shouldn't mix. Give the NFL 10-15 years, that product will become even worse than where it stands now.
The golden days of the NFL was in the 2000's, now with NIL, transfers, etc, the product is going to get worse until something changes. All of this is just trying to slap a band aid on a problem.
The golden days of the NFL was in the 2000's, now with NIL, transfers, etc, the product is going to get worse until something changes. All of this is just trying to slap a band aid on a problem.
Anonymous
09/09/2024 10:50
Subject: 28 Rosters Spots/28 Scholarships for NCAA Women's Soccer
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NWSL just hired people for working with / defining Youth to Pro player pathways.
https://x.com/JeffKassouf/status/1832058341654401170?t=o410D0FTU4T7xIIzzcHHlA&s=19
If anything happens with college soccer NWSL is positioning to address.
UMD’s women’s team had a 2M annual budget. On what planet can NWSL teams afford to replicate that?
In the world where NCAA continues to lose court cases and colleges eventually get forced to pay student athletes for their services. The second this happens several colleges will drop college women's and men's soccer. Maybe some will keep it around but that will be a choice made by the school. Also the schools will need to decide if they want to win or just compete because how much you pay players will determine how competitive the team is.
NWSL and all the pro leagues are watching what happens with NCAA and will capitalize on the changes. Maybe it will include a clearly defined player pathway and associated amateur league (NWSL Next). Maybe clubs will just throw 500k at the top college players in signing bonuses to pull them out of college before graduation.
Either way NWSL is positioning for a world where NCAA + college socver might not exist in the form it's setup as today.
You seem to think NWSL is doing much better financially than it actually is.
I think NWSL is making plans for when/if NCAA college sports as we know it today blows up. Also yes, 500k signing bonuses are happening for top players in the NWSL.
Didn't you see that the presiding judge in the house case said NCAA needed to revome all language related to collectives and NIL? This was NCAAs last backstop for controlling players and how they get paid. With it removed NCAA has no power or control over players. From a college perspective if you have to pay players might as well form your own conference + stop paying NCAA.
All kinds of crazy things are coming to college sports soon.
Anonymous
09/09/2024 10:28
Subject: 28 Rosters Spots/28 Scholarships for NCAA Women's Soccer
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NWSL just hired people for working with / defining Youth to Pro player pathways.
https://x.com/JeffKassouf/status/1832058341654401170?t=o410D0FTU4T7xIIzzcHHlA&s=19
If anything happens with college soccer NWSL is positioning to address.
UMD’s women’s team had a 2M annual budget. On what planet can NWSL teams afford to replicate that?
In the world where NCAA continues to lose court cases and colleges eventually get forced to pay student athletes for their services. The second this happens several colleges will drop college women's and men's soccer. Maybe some will keep it around but that will be a choice made by the school. Also the schools will need to decide if they want to win or just compete because how much you pay players will determine how competitive the team is.
NWSL and all the pro leagues are watching what happens with NCAA and will capitalize on the changes. Maybe it will include a clearly defined player pathway and associated amateur league (NWSL Next). Maybe clubs will just throw 500k at the top college players in signing bonuses to pull them out of college before graduation.
Either way NWSL is positioning for a world where NCAA + college socver might not exist in the form it's setup as today.
You seem to think NWSL is doing much better financially than it actually is.
Anonymous
09/09/2024 09:50
Subject: 28 Rosters Spots/28 Scholarships for NCAA Women's Soccer
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NWSL just hired people for working with / defining Youth to Pro player pathways.
https://x.com/JeffKassouf/status/1832058341654401170?t=o410D0FTU4T7xIIzzcHHlA&s=19
If anything happens with college soccer NWSL is positioning to address.
UMD’s women’s team had a 2M annual budget. On what planet can NWSL teams afford to replicate that?
In the world where NCAA continues to lose court cases and colleges eventually get forced to pay student athletes for their services. The second this happens several colleges will drop college women's and men's soccer. Maybe some will keep it around but that will be a choice made by the school. Also the schools will need to decide if they want to win or just compete because how much you pay players will determine how competitive the team is.
NWSL and all the pro leagues are watching what happens with NCAA and will capitalize on the changes. Maybe it will include a clearly defined player pathway and associated amateur league (NWSL Next). Maybe clubs will just throw 500k at the top college players in signing bonuses to pull them out of college before graduation.
Either way NWSL is positioning for a world where NCAA + college socver might not exist in the form it's setup as today.