Anonymous
07/25/2024 20:39
Subject: Divisionals really shows why the unfair birthday rule matters
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just wait for high school swim. 14 year old freshman compete against 18 year old seniors.
I think everyone understands the landscape of high school sports. Now if you had college freshmen posing as high school seniors people might cry foul.
The OP is crying about age differences and the perceived “unfairness”. In her view, it would be “unfair” for a 14 year old Freshman to have to compete against an 18 year old senior.
At least nobody is a college swimmer coming back to high school to compete, unlike in summer swim.
We had one come back to try and set team records. A year of being on a D1 swim team does wonders for your times
I could have done that, but felt it would be unfair after a year of NCAA training and racing. That’s not an even playing field. Like what are you trying to prove doing that? It’s a summer league for school aged kids. If you a set records as an 18 yr old high school senior, great. But I would have felt so dumb at dual meets standing in the starting area next to high school kids who only swim in the summer for fun. Classic example of “just because you can doesn’t mean you should”. It’s time to move on once you’ve had a year at college.
For a kid to do this they would have been a 17 yo high school senior. Not 18 yo.
We had a kid do this on our swim team this year, having just finished his freshman D1 year. He was a coach and *amazing* at it. Idolized by the littles and inspirational to the bigger kids. He was an excellent sport and just the nicest person. The whole team really benefitted from him being there.
Anonymous
07/25/2024 20:37
Subject: Divisionals really shows why the unfair birthday rule matters
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just wait for high school swim. 14 year old freshman compete against 18 year old seniors.
I think everyone understands the landscape of high school sports. Now if you had college freshmen posing as high school seniors people might cry foul.
The OP is crying about age differences and the perceived “unfairness”. In her view, it would be “unfair” for a 14 year old Freshman to have to compete against an 18 year old senior.
At least nobody is a college swimmer coming back to high school to compete, unlike in summer swim.
We had one come back to try and set team records. A year of being on a D1 swim team does wonders for your times
I could have done that, but felt it would be unfair after a year of NCAA training and racing. That’s not an even playing field. Like what are you trying to prove doing that? It’s a summer league for school aged kids. If you a set records as an 18 yr old high school senior, great. But I would have felt so dumb at dual meets standing in the starting area next to high school kids who only swim in the summer for fun. Classic example of “just because you can doesn’t mean you should”. It’s time to move on once you’ve had a year at college.
Wait you think it’s unfair to get training during the year and come back unless it’s club swim? Then it’s fine.
I think summer swim should work like other rec sports. Equal time in meets. None of the all star divisionals nonsense.
Anonymous
07/25/2024 20:29
Subject: Divisionals really shows why the unfair birthday rule matters
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just wait for high school swim. 14 year old freshman compete against 18 year old seniors.
I think everyone understands the landscape of high school sports. Now if you had college freshmen posing as high school seniors people might cry foul.
The OP is crying about age differences and the perceived “unfairness”. In her view, it would be “unfair” for a 14 year old Freshman to have to compete against an 18 year old senior.
At least nobody is a college swimmer coming back to high school to compete, unlike in summer swim.
We had one come back to try and set team records. A year of being on a D1 swim team does wonders for your times
I could have done that, but felt it would be unfair after a year of NCAA training and racing. That’s not an even playing field. Like what are you trying to prove doing that? It’s a summer league for school aged kids. If you a set records as an 18 yr old high school senior, great. But I would have felt so dumb at dual meets standing in the starting area next to high school kids who only swim in the summer for fun. Classic example of “just because you can doesn’t mean you should”. It’s time to move on once you’ve had a year at college.
Anonymous
07/25/2024 19:17
Subject: Re:Divisionals really shows why the unfair birthday rule matters
So you are saying that someone looked at the meet entries for IAS and then stalked all those kids through ISA swimming to see how old they are? pathetic
Anonymous
07/25/2024 17:59
Subject: Divisionals really shows why the unfair birthday rule matters
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I guess older kids really flourish in breaststroke. Age of NVSL All Star qualifiers in 9-10 boys 50 breaststroke ..
1. 11.0
2. 11.0
3. 11.1
4. 10.7
5. 11.1
6. 10.8
.. the average age of the top heat is 11.
That's nuts!
Ummmm…how do you know the exact sages of kids from different teams swimming in the NVSL? That isn’t public information
Ummmm....this ship sailed a long time ago. The birthday of every kid who participates in club swim is embedded in club swim meet results files; it's how they keep track of who belongs in which events. Numerous public databases extract background data -- every swimmer has a unique USA Swimming ID number too -- and compile results from those files. Some databases will even tell you the current age of every swimmer.
Anonymous
07/25/2024 17:58
Subject: Divisionals really shows why the unfair birthday rule matters
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I guess older kids really flourish in breaststroke. Age of NVSL All Star qualifiers in 9-10 boys 50 breaststroke ..
1. 11.0
2. 11.0
3. 11.1
4. 10.7
5. 11.1
6. 10.8
.. the average age of the top heat is 11.
That's nuts!
Ummmm…how do you know the exact sages of kids from different teams swimming in the NVSL? That isn’t public information
(Not PP) You can find it on swimmerstats to the month. Anyone with a highly competitive club swimmers knows the names of the other highly competitive club swimmers in their child’s age group. We look at rankings all the time and our kids swim in the same heats and events with these kids all year. Further, if you swim in the same NVSL or MCSL division, you race these same kids multiple times on relays and individual events.
Anonymous
07/25/2024 17:36
Subject: Divisionals really shows why the unfair birthday rule matters
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I guess older kids really flourish in breaststroke. Age of NVSL All Star qualifiers in 9-10 boys 50 breaststroke ..
1. 11.0
2. 11.0
3. 11.1
4. 10.7
5. 11.1
6. 10.8
.. the average age of the top heat is 11.
That's nuts!
Ummmm…how do you know the exact sages of kids from different teams swimming in the NVSL? That isn’t public information
Anonymous
07/25/2024 16:23
Subject: Divisionals really shows why the unfair birthday rule matters
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just wait for high school swim. 14 year old freshman compete against 18 year old seniors.
I think everyone understands the landscape of high school sports. Now if you had college freshmen posing as high school seniors people might cry foul.
The OP is crying about age differences and the perceived “unfairness”. In her view, it would be “unfair” for a 14 year old Freshman to have to compete against an 18 year old senior.
At least nobody is a college swimmer coming back to high school to compete, unlike in summer swim.
Who cares? Summer swim is about fun. And if you feel differently, then you should be glad that kid is coming back to help your team win. It’s a team sport, after all. All this talk about post-season individual meets is revealing that some of y’all care more about your kid’s glory than their contribution to the team.
The D1 example below - that kid was probably fast before college too.
Anonymous
07/25/2024 16:04
Subject: Divisionals really shows why the unfair birthday rule matters
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just wait for high school swim. 14 year old freshman compete against 18 year old seniors.
I think everyone understands the landscape of high school sports. Now if you had college freshmen posing as high school seniors people might cry foul.
The OP is crying about age differences and the perceived “unfairness”. In her view, it would be “unfair” for a 14 year old Freshman to have to compete against an 18 year old senior.
At least nobody is a college swimmer coming back to high school to compete, unlike in summer swim.
We had one come back to try and set team records. A year of being on a D1 swim team does wonders for your times
Anonymous
07/25/2024 16:01
Subject: Divisionals really shows why the unfair birthday rule matters
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just wait for high school swim. 14 year old freshman compete against 18 year old seniors.
I think everyone understands the landscape of high school sports. Now if you had college freshmen posing as high school seniors people might cry foul.
The OP is crying about age differences and the perceived “unfairness”. In her view, it would be “unfair” for a 14 year old Freshman to have to compete against an 18 year old senior.
At least nobody is a college swimmer coming back to high school to compete, unlike in summer swim.
It's the same age span. Why would you whine about one and not about the other?
Anonymous
07/25/2024 15:59
Subject: Divisionals really shows why the unfair birthday rule matters
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just wait for high school swim. 14 year old freshman compete against 18 year old seniors.
I think everyone understands the landscape of high school sports. Now if you had college freshmen posing as high school seniors people might cry foul.
The OP is crying about age differences and the perceived “unfairness”. In her view, it would be “unfair” for a 14 year old Freshman to have to compete against an 18 year old senior.
At least nobody is a college swimmer coming back to high school to compete, unlike in summer swim.
Anonymous
07/25/2024 15:44
Subject: Divisionals really shows why the unfair birthday rule matters
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just wait for high school swim. 14 year old freshman compete against 18 year old seniors.
I think everyone understands the landscape of high school sports. Now if you had college freshmen posing as high school seniors people might cry foul.
The OP is crying about age differences and the perceived “unfairness”. In her view, it would be “unfair” for a 14 year old Freshman to have to compete against an 18 year old senior.
Anonymous
07/25/2024 13:30
Subject: Divisionals really shows why the unfair birthday rule matters
Anonymous wrote:Just wait for high school swim. 14 year old freshman compete against 18 year old seniors.
I think everyone understands the landscape of high school sports. Now if you had college freshmen posing as high school seniors people might cry foul.
Anonymous
07/25/2024 13:28
Subject: Divisionals really shows why the unfair birthday rule matters
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The June 1 date has been used by summer rec leagues for decades. Either get over it and let your kid have fun or don’t participate.
It’s not fair that the majority of swimmers are 5-8 inches taller than my kid at this point but it is what it is.
What if my kid is short and has a 5/31 birthday?? 😭 😭 😭
Anonymous
07/25/2024 13:11
Subject: Divisionals really shows why the unfair birthday rule matters
Just wait for high school swim. 14 year old freshman compete against 18 year old seniors.