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Anonymous wrote:"Anti-parent" is absolutely the most accurate and appropriate label for your behavior. Re-read what you wrote. It is aggressively and unapologetically anti-parent.

And again: It doesn't make sense that you would have that attitude unless you were an MCPS educator/admin who was hellbent on defending the system.

No, you just desperately want allies to agree that you were wronged and you know who did it! Personal responsibility, what's that?

I don't need allies. But it is absolutely wild to have a so-called parent who believes every parent is lying about their experiences in MCPS as a default position. That is inherently anti-parent. Sort of like a man who believes all women who talk about sexual assault or harassment as liars by default would be correctly labeled as anti-woman. That's what you are: anti-parent.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Np. Believing that everyone else is lying is a psychiatric problem.

You want a safe space and I have upset you. I wish I were sorry about that.

Also, if you spoke to your kids you would learn about things like how their grades are curved (or not), retake policies, late assignment policies etc. and have a better idea of what their grades mean in context. That means speaking to your kids and being more involved than opening the report card and giving them a goody bag for decent or good grades.

Projection is probably part of your disorder

Ok. I suggest you don’t choose mCPS for your family.

Anonymous wrote:"Anti-parent" is absolutely the most accurate and appropriate label for your behavior. Re-read what you wrote. It is aggressively and unapologetically anti-parent.

And again: It doesn't make sense that you would have that attitude unless you were an MCPS educator/admin who was hellbent on defending the system.

No, you just desperately want allies to agree that you were wronged and you know who did it! Personal responsibility, what's that?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Therein lies the problem. You're inclined to be anti-parent. And why would a parent who's not an MCPS educator or admin be inclined to take that position? By default you trust and believe MCPS over parents. WHY?

"Anti-parent" is a hilarious thing to say. This is a forum where parents come to vent and often it's just a "Yelp" for them to downvote a school that 'wronged them.' It's a safe space for parents to 'tilt the scale' in their favor. I don't trust or value administrators more than parents per se, but anyone with eyes can see that parents are a major place of blame for lack of achievement and problems at schools. Frankly, if more parents were antagonistic and untrusting of parents words we would be a lot better off.

"Anti-parent" is absolutely the most accurate and appropriate label for your behavior. Re-read what you wrote. It is aggressively and unapologetically anti-parent.

And again: It doesn't make sense that you would have that attitude unless you were an MCPS educator/admin who was hellbent on defending the system.

Please all of you who hate MCPS go to private.

We are tired of you messing with our college admissions and pulling the numbers down.

Anonymous wrote:Np. Believing that everyone else is lying is a psychiatric problem.

You want a safe space and I have upset you. I wish I were sorry about that.

Also, if you spoke to your kids you would learn about things like how their grades are curved (or not), retake policies, late assignment policies etc. and have a better idea of what their grades mean in context. That means speaking to your kids and being more involved than opening the report card and giving them a goody bag for decent or good grades.

Haven’t read most of the posts but makes sense.

I watched the Covid response and have followed other political movements and legislation in MoCo. It seemed risky to buy a home there if the main reason was good public schools.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Therein lies the problem. You're inclined to be anti-parent. And why would a parent who's not an MCPS educator or admin be inclined to take that position? By default you trust and believe MCPS over parents. WHY?

"Anti-parent" is a hilarious thing to say. This is a forum where parents come to vent and often it's just a "Yelp" for them to downvote a school that 'wronged them.' It's a safe space for parents to 'tilt the scale' in their favor. I don't trust or value administrators more than parents per se, but anyone with eyes can see that parents are a major place of blame for lack of achievement and problems at schools. Frankly, if more parents were antagonistic and untrusting of parents words we would be a lot better off.

"Being more antagonistic and entrusting equals a better world"
You're doing great over there, pp. Very persuasive argument. You must he a product of mcps.

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Anonymous wrote:We're talking about kids who got good grades in MCPS and are DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING, only to find out later that MCPS's stamp of approval was false and that they lack foundational skills. In many instances, these things are pointed out to students/parents by college faculty. This is not conjecture and the opinion of parents.

Your defacto status is to believe the parents who come here to leave their little yelp reviews and 'downvote' the community. Mine is to assume on average parents here are liars or don't post the whole truth and work from there. I don't trust the posts about the high achievers wildly failing in college because MCPS failed to teach them subject matter. I think digging even a little bit into those cases would reveal a greater truth.

Also, it's odd now that grades could be inflated indicators due to various factors and are not indicators of mastery. Almost as if a student who never accepted a retake, wasn't late with their assignments and worked harder and got an A had more mastery and better life skills than a student who took a very different route or had other unaddressed issues was actually the worse student.

The transition from high school to college is the same today as 10 years ago, 20 years ago and beyond. It's difficult, you need to be more independent, sometimes it's easier and sometimes it's harder. The simple fact is that in MCPS, if you're a straight A student, you are ready for college and your failure when arriving there will be a consequence of something else.

Np. Believing that everyone else is lying is a psychiatric problem.

Anonymous wrote:Therein lies the problem. You're inclined to be anti-parent. And why would a parent who's not an MCPS educator or admin be inclined to take that position? By default you trust and believe MCPS over parents. WHY?

"Anti-parent" is a hilarious thing to say. This is a forum where parents come to vent and often it's just a "Yelp" for them to downvote a school that 'wronged them.' It's a safe space for parents to 'tilt the scale' in their favor. I don't trust or value administrators more than parents per se, but anyone with eyes can see that parents are a major place of blame for lack of achievement and problems at schools. Frankly, if more parents were antagonistic and untrusting of parents words we would be a lot better off.

Let's be even more clear. School has ALWAYS been this way. A student with or without support can always achieve more. They can write a better paper, they can produce neater work and they can push themselves harder. College admissions for generations have looked beyond grades to holistic health of the mind and body, involvement in the community, commitment to bettering themselves outside of the scope of what is asked as a baseline. It has ALWAYS been this way. Now, we're to believe that we're tricked by the meaning of grades, as kids at your school work to pad their resumes with piano, boy scouts, sports, language studies and on? As they take coding classes to differentiate themselves further from their cohorts? Parents of straight A kids were tricked? Really?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We're talking about kids who got good grades in MCPS and are DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING, only to find out later that MCPS's stamp of approval was false and that they lack foundational skills. In many instances, these things are pointed out to students/parents by college faculty. This is not conjecture and the opinion of parents.

Your defacto status is to believe the parents who come here to leave their little yelp reviews and 'downvote' the community. Mine is to assume on average parents here are liars or don't post the whole truth and work from there. I don't trust the posts about the high achievers wildly failing in college because MCPS failed to teach them subject matter. I think digging even a little bit into those cases would reveal a greater truth.

Also, it's odd now that grades could be inflated indicators due to various factors and are not indicators of mastery. Almost as if a student who never accepted a retake, wasn't late with their assignments and worked harder and got an A had more mastery and better life skills than a student who took a very different route or had other unaddressed issues was actually the worse student.

The transition from high school to college is the same today as 10 years ago, 20 years ago and beyond. It's difficult, you need to be more independent, sometimes it's easier and sometimes it's harder. The simple fact is that in MCPS, if you're a straight A student, you are ready for college and your failure when arriving there will be a consequence of something else.

Therein lies the problem. You're inclined to be anti-parent. And why would a parent who's not an MCPS educator or admin be inclined to take that position? By default you trust and believe MCPS over parents. WHY?

Anonymous wrote:We're talking about kids who got good grades in MCPS and are DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING, only to find out later that MCPS's stamp of approval was false and that they lack foundational skills. In many instances, these things are pointed out to students/parents by college faculty. This is not conjecture and the opinion of parents.

Your defacto status is to believe the parents who come here to leave their little yelp reviews and 'downvote' the community. Mine is to assume on average parents here are liars or don't post the whole truth and work from there. I don't trust the posts about the high achievers wildly failing in college because MCPS failed to teach them subject matter. I think digging even a little bit into those cases would reveal a greater truth.

Also, it's odd now that grades could be inflated indicators due to various factors and are not indicators of mastery. Almost as if a student who never accepted a retake, wasn't late with their assignments and worked harder and got an A had more mastery and better life skills than a student who took a very different route or had other unaddressed issues was actually the worse student.

The transition from high school to college is the same today as 10 years ago, 20 years ago and beyond. It's difficult, you need to be more independent, sometimes it's easier and sometimes it's harder. The simple fact is that in MCPS, if you're a straight A student, you are ready for college and your failure when arriving there will be a consequence of something else.

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Anonymous wrote:

Not sure I believe you. Your aggressive defense of MCPS belies some sort of allegiance to the system. Maybe your spouse works for the system?

Either way, your premise is utter garbage. If grades didn't indicate mastery and effort, the SCHOOLS would not highlight kids who get good grades via Honor Roll ceremonies or Straight A's recognition. Your theory that grades don't indicate mastery and effort are completely misaligned with the actions schools routinely make in highlighting and promoting kids who get GOOD GRADES.

If they didn't matter and didn't indicate competency and mastery, why recognize them?

Your argument is full of holes. So why are you invested in arguing and making it? Be transparent.

Your hyper-defensiveness tells the entire tale really. The all too easy 'blame someone else' attitude goes over well at the local park and makes it easy to have friendships over lattes. I'm not your friend. Grades are grades, and honor roll is an indication of meeting certain criteria of the school, not mastery of a subject (if you mastered Calculus in high school, why would you take it in college? I thought you mastered it!). If your kid had actual mastery of the subject and an established ability to fulfil tasks, think independently and critically and have a higher level of understanding then they likely wouldn't fail the subject freshman year of college. There's some other reason for the failure we're probably not hearing about and it's really easy to suggest it's just dang harder than MCPS taught. Maybe the child, now adult, was partying? Maybe they weren't instilled with a sense of attending class and meeting deadlines and got behind? Maybe they have unmet psychological or physical problems and made college difficult whereas high school was more 'on rails?'

What are you talking about? Because I took high school biology does that mean I shouldn't take college-level biology as well?

A kid who gets an A in high school level calc is thought to have mastered THAT LEVEL of calculus and be ready to go on to the next level of calculus which is college-level calculus.

You're twisting yourself into what-if scenarios when myself and the PPs are telling you that we have kids who got GOOD GRADES in MCPS only to find out later, that due to grade inflation/permissive retake policies or plain ol' poor instruction, that the grades were MISLEADING indicators of the readiness of our kids to progress academically in their subjects.

Yes, it is possible for a kid who got good grades in high school to drop the ball in college for behavioral and focus reasons. That's fine but that's not what we're talking about.

We're talking about kids who got good grades in MCPS and are DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING, only to find out later that MCPS's stamp of approval was false and that they lack foundational skills. In many instances, these things are pointed out to students/parents by college faculty. This is not conjecture and the opinion of parents.

Pull your head out of MCPS's rear end and stop gaslighting parents for pointing out where the system is falling short. If you're not getting paid to defend MCPS, why are you doing this? You still won't reveal your MO.