Anonymous wrote:I would just like to say that Cancer is bad on everyone. Not just babies. More and more we are seeing that cancer is the result of the environment and genetics. Which was the result of either bad choices for the body or evil unto the body. People get cancer because cancer is something people can get. It's in the realm of what can happen to the body. That's it. If God is not of this world, he is not giving cancer or curing cancer.

Is your god not all knowing and all powerful?

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Anonymous wrote:What happens if 100,000 people all want to be President of the US; only that will make them happy?

Or a person wants to be able to fly to be happy?

Or people want to be animals, let’s say people want to be dogs or horses or tigers? you are going to turn them into the animal? It will make them happy?

You are thinking a little too narrowly. If God can do ANYTHING- We don't need to live in a world where people can't fly, where garbage exists, where governments or Presidents need to exist, etc.
Or are you suggesting that God is not capable of changing things, or having created them differently?

What kind of world would that be? We wouldn’t be human in the world you describe and say is what God should actually do. Humans create garbage, waste, need sewer and water treatment plants. Or God will send angels down to be our workers? What will we be?

I am not an omnipotent God and therefore cannot answer that question.

But you know what the word should really function like.

-people don’t get sick
-they die at some time without pain ( no details given)
-all people are millionaires
-whatever makes people happy you, you will give them, no explanation what you would do if child porn or meth or rape or fetanyl made people happy, apparently that’s acceptable?
-someone is going to have to provide food, housing, cars, clothing, transportation, etc. Millionaires aren’t going to work in factories or work on a farm or pick up trash or do menial tasks or hard physical labor, so somehow as a god you will make all that happen, or change our bodies so we don’t need to eat or excrete waste or wear clothes or drive cars, etc
- our bodies will be impervious to injury or accident, so somehow you will make us very durable and unable to be injured
-if we want to fly or be invisible or have super strength or do magic or be tigers or snakes or vampires or live in different time periods, you will grant our every wish and whim
-all we have to do is pray to you and whatever we want will appear instantly for us

Here is what I know- if I had any small amount of power to do so, I would ensure that pediatric cancer did not exist.

What about other diseases? Heart disease, metabolic and genetic disorders, children drowning and dying in car accidents? Kids being abused? Kids get kidnapped and murdered? Kids in Africa who get malaria? There’s not just cancer in the world that kills children.

Globally, infectious diseases, including pneumonia, diarrhoea and malaria, remain a leading cause of under-five deaths, along with preterm birth and intrapartum-related complications.

So you are the big hearted person who would not let kids get cancer, but millions of kids die from diarrhea. Of course they live in 3rd world nations run by despots, war lords, and dictators who don’t care about the health of their citizens and take billions of dollars of their country’s dollars and millions of dollars of aid from other nations, and hang out in Paris. They themselves eat delicious, healthy food, clean water, and have access to world class medical care. Their wives wear couture and carry designer bags and live in mansions.

In the US, motor vehicle accidents are the leading cause of death for children aged 1 to 19.

The information below is from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

Accidents (unintentional injuries) are, by far, the leading cause of death among children and teens.

THE TOP THREE CAUSES OF DEATH BY AGE GROUP

0 to 1 year:

Developmental and genetic conditions that were present at birth
Conditions due to premature birth (short gestation)
Accidents (unintentional injuries)
1 to 4 years:

Accidents (unintentional injuries)
Developmental and genetic conditions that were present at birth
Homicide
5 to 9 years:

Accidents (unintentional injuries)
Cancer
Developmental and genetic conditions that were present at birth
10 to 14 years

Accidents (unintentional injuries)
Suicide (intentional self-harm)
Cancer

The automobile accounts for the largest number of accidental deaths. All infants and children should use the proper child car seats, booster seats, and seat belts.

Other top causes of accidental death are drowning, fire, falls, and poisoning.

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Anonymous wrote:What happens if 100,000 people all want to be President of the US; only that will make them happy?

Or a person wants to be able to fly to be happy?

Or people want to be animals, let’s say people want to be dogs or horses or tigers? you are going to turn them into the animal? It will make them happy?

You are thinking a little too narrowly. If God can do ANYTHING- We don't need to live in a world where people can't fly, where garbage exists, where governments or Presidents need to exist, etc.
Or are you suggesting that God is not capable of changing things, or having created them differently?

What kind of world would that be? We wouldn’t be human in the world you describe and say is what God should actually do. Humans create garbage, waste, need sewer and water treatment plants. Or God will send angels down to be our workers? What will we be?

I am not an omnipotent God and therefore cannot answer that question.

But you know what the word should really function like.

-people don’t get sick
-they die at some time without pain ( no details given)
-all people are millionaires
-whatever makes people happy you, you will give them, no explanation what you would do if child porn or meth or rape or fetanyl made people happy, apparently that’s acceptable?
-someone is going to have to provide food, housing, cars, clothing, transportation, etc. Millionaires aren’t going to work in factories or work on a farm or pick up trash or do menial tasks or hard physical labor, so somehow as a god you will make all that happen, or change our bodies so we don’t need to eat or excrete waste or wear clothes or drive cars, etc
- our bodies will be impervious to injury or accident, so somehow you will make us very durable and unable to be injured
-if we want to fly or be invisible or have super strength or do magic or be tigers or snakes or vampires or live in different time periods, you will grant our every wish and whim
-all we have to do is pray to you and whatever we want will appear instantly for us

Here is what I know- if I had any small amount of power to do so, I would ensure that pediatric cancer did not exist.

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Anonymous wrote:What happens if 100,000 people all want to be President of the US; only that will make them happy?

Or a person wants to be able to fly to be happy?

Or people want to be animals, let’s say people want to be dogs or horses or tigers? you are going to turn them into the animal? It will make them happy?

You are thinking a little too narrowly. If God can do ANYTHING- We don't need to live in a world where people can't fly, where garbage exists, where governments or Presidents need to exist, etc.
Or are you suggesting that God is not capable of changing things, or having created them differently?

What kind of world would that be? We wouldn’t be human in the world you describe and say is what God should actually do. Humans create garbage, waste, need sewer and water treatment plants. Or God will send angels down to be our workers? What will we be?

I am not an omnipotent God and therefore cannot answer that question.

But you know what the word should really function like.

-people don’t get sick
-they die at some time without pain ( no details given)
-all people are millionaires
-whatever makes people happy you, you will give them, no explanation what you would do if child porn or meth or rape or fetanyl made people happy, apparently that’s acceptable?
-someone is going to have to provide food, housing, cars, clothing, transportation, etc. Millionaires aren’t going to work in factories or work on a farm or pick up trash or do menial tasks or hard physical labor, so somehow as a god you will make all that happen, or change our bodies so we don’t need to eat or excrete waste or wear clothes or drive cars, etc
- our bodies will be impervious to injury or accident, so somehow you will make us very durable and unable to be injured
-if we want to fly or be invisible or have super strength or do magic or be tigers or snakes or vampires or live in different time periods, you will grant our every wish and whim
-all we have to do is pray to you and whatever we want will appear instantly for us

I would just like to say that Cancer is bad on everyone. Not just babies. More and more we are seeing that cancer is the result of the environment and genetics. Which was the result of either bad choices for the body or evil unto the body. People get cancer because cancer is something people can get. It's in the realm of what can happen to the body. That's it. If God is not of this world, he is not giving cancer or curing cancer.

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Anonymous wrote:What happens if 100,000 people all want to be President of the US; only that will make them happy?

Or a person wants to be able to fly to be happy?

Or people want to be animals, let’s say people want to be dogs or horses or tigers? you are going to turn them into the animal? It will make them happy?

You are thinking a little too narrowly. If God can do ANYTHING- We don't need to live in a world where people can't fly, where garbage exists, where governments or Presidents need to exist, etc.
Or are you suggesting that God is not capable of changing things, or having created them differently?

What kind of world would that be? We wouldn’t be human in the world you describe and say is what God should actually do. Humans create garbage, waste, need sewer and water treatment plants. Or God will send angels down to be our workers? What will we be?

I am not an omnipotent God and therefore cannot answer that question.

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Anonymous wrote:What happens if 100,000 people all want to be President of the US; only that will make them happy?

Or a person wants to be able to fly to be happy?

Or people want to be animals, let’s say people want to be dogs or horses or tigers? you are going to turn them into the animal? It will make them happy?

You are thinking a little too narrowly. If God can do ANYTHING- We don't need to live in a world where people can't fly, where garbage exists, where governments or Presidents need to exist, etc.
Or are you suggesting that God is not capable of changing things, or having created them differently?

What kind of world would that be? We wouldn’t be human in the world you describe and say is what God should actually do. Humans create garbage, waste, need sewer and water treatment plants. Or God will send angels down to be our workers? What will we be?

Anonymous wrote:What happens if 100,000 people all want to be President of the US; only that will make them happy?

Or a person wants to be able to fly to be happy?

Or people want to be animals, let’s say people want to be dogs or horses or tigers? you are going to turn them into the animal? It will make them happy?

You are thinking a little too narrowly. If God can do ANYTHING- We don't need to live in a world where people can't fly, where garbage exists, where governments or Presidents need to exist, etc.
Or are you suggesting that God is not capable of changing things, or having created them differently?

What happens if 100,000 people all want to be President of the US; only that will make them happy?

Or a person wants to be able to fly to be happy?

Or people want to be animals, let’s say people want to be dogs or horses or tigers? you are going to turn them into the animal? It will make them happy?

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So in your view, God should exist to please us? Keep us safe, happy, help us achieve our desires?

Yes.

That’s what I would do if I were God and loved people. Wouldn’t you? Wouldn’t you heal those children if you could?

Would you make everyone a millionaire too?

And make everyone happy 24/7/365?

Sure if i had the power. Why not?

Do these millionaires have free will? What if torturing animals makes someone happy? What if having sex with kids makes someone happy? What if someone spends all their money doing meth, are you going to add millions more to their bank account?

This whole exchange is a red herring. The topic of this post was pediatric cancer- so suffering the consequences of free will or "value" of suffering to prove faith arguments do not apply.

Whether or not a God would allow "torturing of animals" to make people happy, at a minimum, a loving omnipotent God would not give innocent children cancer, or allow pediatric cancer to exist.

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So in your view, God should exist to please us? Keep us safe, happy, help us achieve our desires?

Yes.

That’s what I would do if I were God and loved people. Wouldn’t you? Wouldn’t you heal those children if you could?

Would you make everyone a millionaire too?

And make everyone happy 24/7/365?

Sure if i had the power. Why not?

Ok. Everyone lives for a very long time as millionaires. Since everyone is a happy millionaire, who be police officers, fire fighters, who will grow food for humanity?

There will be more people to feed so we will need more food. Will you give everyone their food everyday? Everyone has a fully stocked kitchen every day magically?

Then they can go get their meth and take vacations however I don’t know how they will fly on a plane because everyone is a millionaire and nobody is being a commercial pilot as a millionaire; especially if they have a fully stocked kitchen and don’t have to worry about money. I doubt anyone will be a garbage man; I hope you remove our trash daily too. I don’t know who is going to manufacture things because no millionaire is going to work in a factory. You can give us all a new car every year. If we wreck it you need to have a new vehicle placed in our garages. You will have to make our bodies different because when people fall off a ladder or wreck their car our bodies will become injured. Make sure we have invincible bodies that heal automatically.

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So in your view, God should exist to please us? Keep us safe, happy, help us achieve our desires?

Yes.

That’s what I would do if I were God and loved people. Wouldn’t you? Wouldn’t you heal those children if you could?

So you would heal everyone on earth and no one would ever die.

People would live long healthy lives then go to sleep one night and never wake up, like their batteries just wore out.

That’s how it would be if there was a god worth believing in.

Who would decide when people died?

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So in your view, God should exist to please us? Keep us safe, happy, help us achieve our desires?

Yes.

That’s what I would do if I were God and loved people. Wouldn’t you? Wouldn’t you heal those children if you could?

Would you make everyone a millionaire too?

And make everyone happy 24/7/365?

Sure if i had the power. Why not?

Do these millionaires have free will? What if torturing animals makes someone happy? What if having sex with kids makes someone happy? What if someone spends all their money doing meth, are you going to add millions more to their bank account?

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So in your view, God should exist to please us? Keep us safe, happy, help us achieve our desires?

Yes.

That’s what I would do if I were God and loved people. Wouldn’t you? Wouldn’t you heal those children if you could?

Would you make everyone a millionaire too?

And make everyone happy 24/7/365?

That was literally God's plan with the Garden of Eden. So that is what he would do, until he...couldn't?

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Anonymous wrote:If God can’t save an innocent person from suffering, then he isn’t omnipotent, is he? He can’t be both benevolent and omnipotent. The two are mutually exclusive in this case.

So in your view, God should exist to please us? Keep us safe, happy, help us achieve our desires?

I think any objective observer can see that there is something deeply flawed with humanity. We do things we know are wrong. Not just do things that are wrong but we often enjoy doing things that we know are wrong and hurtful to others. We have an internal consciousness but fight it at times. Animals don't do this. Everything in this world follows the "rules" put upon them. Rocks, on earth, will drop because they follow the laws of gravity. Lions are vicious and kill but do not do so for pure enjoyment. anyone would recognize that human evil goes way beyond. It is not a matter of linear progression from the animal world but a totally different plane.

So in this context, do you think God should aim to please us, who are greatly flawed? Any correction from God will feel horrible to us because it is not because God is mean or evil, but because we are flawed. Think of real life. Anything worth achieving requires a huge amount of sacrifice, pain, and sometimes suffering. Those who live a sheltered life often do not gain the wisdom and maturity of those who have been through difficult period of life. This is just how things are.

We are talking about pediatric cancer. None of the above applies.