Anonymous
Post 07/28/2024 12:12     Subject: Ballerina Farm

Anonymous wrote:I admittedly do too much between thanksgiving and Christmas, but I spend a lot of January in bed. I’m over the top in December and it’s so magical for the kids. Elf on the shelf does amazing things, I bake all the things with the kids, decorations are incredible, I host Christmas Eve and Christmas for about 15-20 and it’s the best meal we eat all year.

Anyways, I’m not depressed (although maybe- that winter darkness is awful), I just over extend myself. I think she is similar. I have 4 kids and can’t imagine 4 more. Sometimes I don’t get better until Valentine’s Day. I put the kids to bed and then go to bed myself and sleep for 12 hours.


This sounds more like seasonal depression to me. Not that you asked. But it seems crazy to me that you need 6 weeks to recover otherwise.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2024 11:26     Subject: Re:Ballerina Farm

it never occurred to me that she made a mistake in choosing marriage and kids over a career. At that time the church was just constantly drilling into our heads from the time we could understand words that a woman choosing a career over marriage and kids was the epitome of selfishness and basically a sin


I was told a lot of things at home and in temple, and I questioned everything. I thought about counter-arguments, played Devil's Advocate, asked why, etc. Just because you're told something doesn't mean it's fact or that you have to believe/live it. I have a wildly different lifestyle than what was modeled to me.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2024 11:24     Subject: Ballerina Farm

Anonymous wrote:I admittedly do too much between thanksgiving and Christmas, but I spend a lot of January in bed. I’m over the top in December and it’s so magical for the kids. Elf on the shelf does amazing things, I bake all the things with the kids, decorations are incredible, I host Christmas Eve and Christmas for about 15-20 and it’s the best meal we eat all year.

Anyways, I’m not depressed (although maybe- that winter darkness is awful), I just over extend myself. I think she is similar. I have 4 kids and can’t imagine 4 more. Sometimes I don’t get better until Valentine’s Day. I put the kids to bed and then go to bed myself and sleep for 12 hours.


This is not normal. Seek help.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2024 09:38     Subject: Ballerina Farm

I admittedly do too much between thanksgiving and Christmas, but I spend a lot of January in bed. I’m over the top in December and it’s so magical for the kids. Elf on the shelf does amazing things, I bake all the things with the kids, decorations are incredible, I host Christmas Eve and Christmas for about 15-20 and it’s the best meal we eat all year.

Anyways, I’m not depressed (although maybe- that winter darkness is awful), I just over extend myself. I think she is similar. I have 4 kids and can’t imagine 4 more. Sometimes I don’t get better until Valentine’s Day. I put the kids to bed and then go to bed myself and sleep for 12 hours.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2024 09:36     Subject: Ballerina Farm

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: At the end of the day, she got herself into this—whatever we think of what 'this' means within this context. If that husband of hers had told her he was night shift manager at McDonald's , would she have married him?

Sometimes, gold-digging works out swimmingly.Sometimes, it does but with a hefty tag attached to it. She's a prisoner of her own making.


I don't think she did get herself into this. She was born into it.

And it's entirely possible that she would have married him if he was a night shift manager at Mcdonald's. Crazily enough, I (former Mormon) know a Mormon woman who turned down a lucrative position as a ballerina in NYC (this was 17 years ago and she said she was going to get paid 160K or something!!) to get married and live in Provo, Utah. I met her at a little ballet studio I went to for ballet workout classes. She had a baby and was a SAHM. I don't remember what her husband did but it certainly wasn't impressive and couldn't pay for childcare or a decent ballet experience for her. I was sad that she had to bring her fussy baby to the studio sometimes because she didn't have childcare and thought her husband kind of awful, but it never occurred to me that she made a mistake in choosing marriage and kids over a career. At that time the church was just constantly drilling into our heads from the time we could understand words that a woman choosing a career over marriage and kids was the epitome of selfishness and basically a sin.

Nobody has to feel bad for these women but it's not like they really wanted to give up their dreams to have babies. They were pressured into it.

Also, Hannah wasn't gold-digging. He pursued her, in an extremely aggressive manner from the looks of it.


Her beauty was a curse. He was struck by it and doggedly pursued her for six months. It’s very hard for a 21 year old girl to resist a wealthy man giving her that kind of attention. Yes, I don’t believe she chose this.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2024 09:25     Subject: Ballerina Farm

Anonymous wrote: At the end of the day, she got herself into this—whatever we think of what 'this' means within this context. If that husband of hers had told her he was night shift manager at McDonald's , would she have married him?

Sometimes, gold-digging works out swimmingly.Sometimes, it does but with a hefty tag attached to it. She's a prisoner of her own making.


I don't think she did get herself into this. She was born into it.

And it's entirely possible that she would have married him if he was a night shift manager at Mcdonald's. Crazily enough, I (former Mormon) know a Mormon woman who turned down a lucrative position as a ballerina in NYC (this was 17 years ago and she said she was going to get paid 160K or something!!) to get married and live in Provo, Utah. I met her at a little ballet studio I went to for ballet workout classes. She had a baby and was a SAHM. I don't remember what her husband did but it certainly wasn't impressive and couldn't pay for childcare or a decent ballet experience for her. I was sad that she had to bring her fussy baby to the studio sometimes because she didn't have childcare and thought her husband kind of awful, but it never occurred to me that she made a mistake in choosing marriage and kids over a career. At that time the church was just constantly drilling into our heads from the time we could understand words that a woman choosing a career over marriage and kids was the epitome of selfishness and basically a sin.

Nobody has to feel bad for these women but it's not like they really wanted to give up their dreams to have babies. They were pressured into it.

Also, Hannah wasn't gold-digging. He pursued her, in an extremely aggressive manner from the looks of it.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2024 09:15     Subject: Re:Ballerina Farm

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I truly don't understand why they posted that birthday video. It's so sad to watch, I hated it. How did they think people would respond? It's like so bad it almost feels scripted to make a point or something. A Ukrainian egg apron when she wanted a trip to Greece??


It's a joke! They are making content


It's not a joke. Go watch it.


I agree. She seemed disappointed (as anyone would be). His “you’re welcome” when she hadn’t even said thank you was obnoxious. I legit felt sad for her after watching and I don’t even know these people.


+2

And I don't get how pretending to get a crappy present would help with their branding? Then again, I'm not sure why they posted it in the first place. Maybe it was supposed to be a "hey, we can all be appreciative for what we have, and yay eggs." Being grateful for crumbs is indeed something the Mormon church teaches.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2024 09:05     Subject: Ballerina Farm

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s funny how it’s now a job to convince women that they can make homemaking their job. But no paycheck for those that buy in.

If it’s so wonderful, why is she taking to her bed for a week like the woman in The Yellow Wallpaper.

The detail about going to bed for a week is bizarre and sad as heck but tracks with other Mormon women I've known, in that they appear almost too perfect but then will come down with an illness that will take them out for a while. It happened so often to my friends and their relatives that I began to think it was stress-related. I just think the cultural expectations are impossible for them.


I swear this is what happened to Love Taza. She admittedly was depressed but I think keeping up with this happy happy facade pushed her to the brink and she had some kind of mental breakdown that led to a total online disappearance.


+1. Her husband seemed like a jerk, too.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2024 22:23     Subject: Re:Ballerina Farm

Anonymous wrote:She is happy. She is the hardest working woman I know. She loves her husband with all that she is. Daniel is a good,kind happy man. Their children work hard and play hard and are very well rounded. Hannah is as beautiful on the inside as she is on the outside. She loves Christ. I wish you all could know her as I do.
Micka.


Micka? As in Micka Perry, one of Hannah's sisters?
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2024 18:18     Subject: Ballerina Farm

Who would have thought being a tradwife is a raw deal. Only all our grandmothers.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2024 12:00     Subject: Ballerina Farm

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s funny how it’s now a job to convince women that they can make homemaking their job. But no paycheck for those that buy in.

If it’s so wonderful, why is she taking to her bed for a week like the woman in The Yellow Wallpaper.

The detail about going to bed for a week is bizarre and sad as heck but tracks with other Mormon women I've known, in that they appear almost too perfect but then will come down with an illness that will take them out for a while. It happened so often to my friends and their relatives that I began to think it was stress-related. I just think the cultural expectations are impossible for them.


Unless there's a diagnosed physical illness this screams depression or what was a termed a "nervous breakdown" back in the day.


+1 she's depressed, exhausted, and clearly hates being on a farm. I am sure she loves her kids but I bet she wanted a NYC influencer type lifestyle like Candice Miller had (minus the ponzi schemes of course).b
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2024 11:21     Subject: Ballerina Farm

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s funny how it’s now a job to convince women that they can make homemaking their job. But no paycheck for those that buy in.

If it’s so wonderful, why is she taking to her bed for a week like the woman in The Yellow Wallpaper.

The detail about going to bed for a week is bizarre and sad as heck but tracks with other Mormon women I've known, in that they appear almost too perfect but then will come down with an illness that will take them out for a while. It happened so often to my friends and their relatives that I began to think it was stress-related. I just think the cultural expectations are impossible for them.


Unless there's a diagnosed physical illness this screams depression or what was a termed a "nervous breakdown" back in the day.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2024 10:21     Subject: Ballerina Farm

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s funny how it’s now a job to convince women that they can make homemaking their job. But no paycheck for those that buy in.

If it’s so wonderful, why is she taking to her bed for a week like the woman in The Yellow Wallpaper.

The detail about going to bed for a week is bizarre and sad as heck but tracks with other Mormon women I've known, in that they appear almost too perfect but then will come down with an illness that will take them out for a while. It happened so often to my friends and their relatives that I began to think it was stress-related. I just think the cultural expectations are impossible for them.


I swear this is what happened to Love Taza. She admittedly was depressed but I think keeping up with this happy happy facade pushed her to the brink and she had some kind of mental breakdown that led to a total online disappearance.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2024 08:11     Subject: Re:Ballerina Farm

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I truly don't understand why they posted that birthday video. It's so sad to watch, I hated it. How did they think people would respond? It's like so bad it almost feels scripted to make a point or something. A Ukrainian egg apron when she wanted a trip to Greece??


It's a joke! They are making content


It's not a joke. Go watch it.


The problem is you think they're being real people when they're in fact acting. Think of it as a scripted reality show
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2024 07:51     Subject: Re:Ballerina Farm

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I truly don't understand why they posted that birthday video. It's so sad to watch, I hated it. How did they think people would respond? It's like so bad it almost feels scripted to make a point or something. A Ukrainian egg apron when she wanted a trip to Greece??


It's a joke! They are making content


If that’s a joke, it didn’t have the intended consequences. Most people feel bad for her and think he’s a jerk. Who gives their wife an apron for a birthday present?!