Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pomona belongs with AWS too

Ok this is the final list:

HYPSM
Caltech Columbia Penn
Chicago Duke Northwestern
Brown Dartmouth Cornell Johns Hopkins
Amherst Williams Swarthmore Pomona
Berkeley

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here was another one; Have at it:

Undergraduate Tiers
1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton
1B) Columbia, Penn, Duke, Chicago, Caltech

2A) Northwestern, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
2B) Rice, Cornell, Pomona, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Cal, Notre Dame, Emory, Swarthmore, UCLA, Wellesley

3A) Michigan, NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, Middlebury, Barnard
3B)UNC, Boston College, W&M, Wake, W&L, Davidson

Tier 2A is very debatable is there are a lot of great schools that could go there.

Almost. If all that's being ranked is what's "elite" in 2024, I'd make a couple of changes:

1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Princeton
1B) Yale, Duke, Penn, Caltech
1C) Chicago, Columbia

2A) Brown, Dartmouth, West Point, Annapolis, Williams, Amherst
2B) Northwestern, Cornell, Rice, Johns Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Pomona, Berkeley, Notre Dame

3A) Michigan, UCLA, Emory, Georgetown, Swarthmore
3B) UVA, Tufts, Wellesley, Carnegie Mellon, WashU, USC, NYU, Bowdoin

I think that's it for colleges that can plausibly be called elite.

This is becoming United's boarding groups.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here was another one; Have at it:

Undergraduate Tiers
1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton
1B) Columbia, Penn, Duke, Chicago, Caltech

2A) Northwestern, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
2B) Rice, Cornell, Pomona, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Cal, Notre Dame, Emory, Swarthmore, UCLA, Wellesley

3A) Michigan, NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, Middlebury, Barnard
3B)UNC, Boston College, W&M, Wake, W&L, Davidson

Tier 2A is very debatable is there are a lot of great schools that could go there.

Almost. If all that's being ranked is what's "elite" in 2024, I'd make a couple of changes:

1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Princeton
1B) Yale, Duke, Penn, Caltech
1C) Chicago, Columbia

2A) Brown, Dartmouth, West Point, Annapolis, Williams, Amherst
2B) Northwestern, Cornell, Rice, Johns Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Pomona, Berkeley, Notre Dame

3A) Michigan, UCLA, Emory, Georgetown, Swarthmore
3B) UVA, Tufts, Wellesley, Carnegie Mellon, WashU, USC, NYU, Bowdoin

I think that's it for colleges that can plausibly be called elite.

Anonymous wrote:Top 25 Univ & Top 15 LACs. Period.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here was another one; Have at it:

Undergraduate Tiers
1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton
1B) Columbia, Penn, Duke, Chicago, Caltech

2A) Northwestern, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
2B) Rice, Cornell, Pomona, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Cal, Notre Dame, Emory, Swarthmore, UCLA, Wellesley

3A) Michigan, NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, Middlebury, Barnard
3B)UNC, Boston College, W&M, Wake, W&L, Davidson

Tier 2A is very debatable is there are a lot of great schools that could go there.

Almost. If all that's being ranked is what's "elite" in 2024, I'd make a couple of changes:

1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Princeton
1B) Yale, Duke, Penn, Caltech
1C) Chicago, Columbia

2A) Brown, Dartmouth, West Point, Annapolis, Williams, Amherst
2B) Northwestern, Cornell, Rice, Johns Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Pomona, Berkeley, Notre Dame

3A) Michigan, UCLA, Emory, Georgetown, Swarthmore
3B) UVA, Tufts, Wellesley, Carnegie Mellon, WashU, USC, NYU, Bowdoin

I think that's it for colleges that can plausibly be called elite.

This is really good, and though it is splittling hairs a lot, seems generally accurate especially the Tier 1 top10 and its subgroups. I agree with all but 3A/B: would move Emory to 3B and move WashU/CMU up to 3B. All based on slightly higher caliber kids admitted from many VA privates and public magnets to WashU over Emory, and CMU needs a boost because of the STEM greatness.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here was another one; Have at it:

Undergraduate Tiers
1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton
1B) Columbia, Penn, Duke, Chicago, Caltech

2A) Northwestern, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
2B) Rice, Cornell, Pomona, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Cal, Notre Dame, Emory, Swarthmore, UCLA, Wellesley

3A) Michigan, NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, Middlebury, Barnard
3B)UNC, Boston College, W&M, Wake, W&L, Davidson

Tier 2A is very debatable is there are a lot of great schools that could go there.

Almost. If all that's being ranked is what's "elite" in 2024, I'd make a couple of changes:

1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Princeton
1B) Yale, Duke, Penn, Caltech
1C) Chicago, Columbia

2A) Brown, Dartmouth, West Point, Annapolis, Williams, Amherst
2B) Northwestern, Cornell, Rice, Johns Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Pomona, Berkeley, Notre Dame

3A) Michigan, UCLA, Emory, Georgetown, Swarthmore
3B) UVA, Tufts, Wellesley, Carnegie Mellon, WashU, USC, NYU, Bowdoin

I think that's it for colleges that can plausibly be called elite.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here was another one; Have at it:

Undergraduate Tiers
1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton
1B) Columbia, Penn, Duke, Chicago, Caltech

2A) Northwestern, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
2B) Rice, Cornell, Pomona, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Cal, Notre Dame, Emory, Swarthmore, UCLA, Wellesley

3A) Michigan, NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, Middlebury, Barnard
3B)UNC, Boston College, W&M, Wake, W&L, Davidson

Tier 2A is very debatable is there are a lot of great schools that could go there.

Almost. If all that's being ranked is what's "elite" in 2024, I'd make a couple of changes:

1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Princeton
1B) Yale, Duke, Penn, Caltech
1C) Chicago, Columbia

2A) Brown, Dartmouth, West Point, Annapolis, Williams, Amherst
2B) Northwestern, Cornell, Rice, Johns Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Pomona, Berkeley, Notre Dame

3A) Michigan, UCLA, Emory, Georgetown, Swarthmore
3B) UVA, Tufts, Wellesley, Carnegie Mellon, WashU, USC, NYU, Bowdoin

I think that's it for colleges that can plausibly be called elite.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here was another one; Have at it:

Undergraduate Tiers
1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton
1B) Columbia, Penn, Duke, Chicago, Caltech

2A) Northwestern, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
2B) Rice, Cornell, Pomona, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Cal, Notre Dame, Emory, Swarthmore, UCLA, Wellesley

3A) Michigan, NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, Middlebury, Barnard
3B)UNC, Boston College, W&M, Wake, W&L, Davidson

Tier 2A is very debatable is there are a lot of great schools that could go there.

Almost. If all that's being ranked is what's "elite" in 2024, I'd make a couple of changes:

1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Princeton
1B) Yale, Duke, Penn, Caltech
1C) Chicago, Columbia

2A) Brown, Dartmouth, West Point, Annapolis, Williams, Amherst
2B) Northwestern, Cornell, Rice, Johns Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Pomona, Berkeley, Notre Dame

3A) Michigan, UCLA, Emory, Georgetown, Swarthmore
3B) UVA, Tufts, Wellesley, Carnegie Mellon, WashU, USC, NYU, Bowdoin

I think that's it for colleges that can plausibly be called elite.

Anonymous wrote:1)Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton, Columbia, Penn, Duke, Chicago, Caltech, Northwestern, Brown

2) Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst, Rice, Cornell, Pomona, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Cal, Notre Dame, Emory, Swarthmore, UCLA, Wellesley, WashU, CMU

3) Michigan, NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, Middlebury, Barnard, UNC, Boston College, Vassar, Bowdoin, W&L, Davidson, GaTech, Hamilton

I removed Wake and W&M, as they're a tier below.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here was another one; Have at it:

Undergraduate Tiers
1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton
1B) Columbia, Penn, Duke, Chicago, Caltech

2A) Northwestern, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
2B) Rice, Cornell, Pomona, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Cal, Notre Dame, Emory, Swarthmore, UCLA, Wellesley

3A) Michigan, NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, Middlebury, Barnard
3B)UNC, Boston College, W&M, Wake, W&L, Davidson

Tier 2A is very debatable is there are a lot of great schools that could go there.

Almost. If all that's being ranked is what's "elite" in 2024, I'd make a couple of changes:

1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Princeton
1B) Yale, Duke, Penn, Caltech
1C) Chicago, Columbia

2A) Brown, Dartmouth, West Point, Annapolis, Williams, Amherst
2B) Northwestern, Cornell, Rice, Johns Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Pomona, Berkeley, Notre Dame

3A) Michigan, UCLA, Emory, Georgetown, Swarthmore
3B) UVA, Tufts, Wellesley, Carnegie Mellon, WashU, USC, NYU, Bowdoin

I think that's it for colleges that can plausibly be called elite.

Anonymous wrote:Can everyone offering tiers of eliteness admit that they're pulling them from their respective fundaments?

It's fine that you have such a regimented hierarchy in your head (well, the specificity of these lists strikes me as a little weird), but let's not pretend that such lists have any objective meaning for anyone but the particular individual serving them up. In reality, very few of you know much about the specific schools in your lists in relation to one another beyond the fact that they've probably previously appeared in other ranked lists.

Anonymous wrote:One more; I did the work for you all by finding other junkie posts about this:

If you take the average ranking from US News, WSJ/THE, Niche, Forbes, Washington Monthly, Money, Wallet Hub, and Degree Choices, you get an overall ranking of:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
---Big Gap---
4. Harvard
5. Yale
6. Duke
7. Penn
---Big Gap---
8. Caltech
9. Northwestern
10. Columbia
11. Vanderbilt
12. UCLA
13. Berkeley
14. UMich
15. Dartmouth
16. Georgetown
17. Johns Hopkins
18. Cornell
19. Notre Dame
20. WashU (tie)
20. UChicago (tie)
22. UNC
23. UF (tie)
23. UVA (tie)
25. CMU
---Big Gap---
26. Georgia Tech
27. UCSD
28. USC
29. Emory
30. UIUC
31. UCD
32. UCI
33. UW Seattle
34. BC
35. Wake Forest
36. UT Austin
37. UW Madison
---Big Gap---
38. W&M
39. UCSB
40. Lehigh
41. Purdue
---Big Gap---
42. Texas A&M
43. UMD
44. Virginia Tech
45. BU
46. UGA
47. NYU
48. NCSU
49. BYU
50. GW
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