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Anonymous wrote:I lost respect for Yale when they coddled those ridiculous students who screamed at the master of one of the residential colleges for taking the oh-so-controversial position that Yale students should be allowed to assume responsibility for their own Halloween costumes. No doubt Princeton is largely left-wing now, too, but it still seems to prioritize academic excellence in a way that Yale does not.

You need to go to Princeton. I have no idea what this costume whining is about but it sounds like New Haven and Yale are way too much for you to handle.

It was more the idea of being treated like responsible young adults that was too much for the Yale students to handle. The residential college master at Silliman ended up stepping down when the hysterical students should have been reprimanded for their behavior. It sent a clear message that Yale had lost its way.

I don't think wearing black face as part of your Halloween costume at Princeton is going to go over particularly either. But go ahead and give it a try and I guess you can see.

You’re completely missing the point. Wearing blackface is bad. The head of a Yale residential college and his wife, however, were attacked by students for taking the position that Yale could rely upon students to make the right decisions for themselves. The students were incensed that the residential college wasn’t giving students specific instructions as to what Halloween costumes (!)would be considered offensive or inappropriate, and demanded that the professor step down from his position for his perceived lack of allyship.

Yale’s senior leadership then stood by idly when the professor acceded to these demands, when they should have had the professor’s back. If a school is that spineless when it comes to a silly issue like this, it sends a strong signal that it’s not going to insist on academic rigor in the classroom, either.

Princeton is left-wing now, too, but it hasn’t embarrassed itself like Yale did. It’s not a coincidence that it’s Yale that’s now putting out reports on how elite academic institutions (i.e., like Yale) can regain respect.

Princeton speaks out aggressively against the current administration's attacks on higher education, so A+ for Princeton for that.

As far as Halloween, we'll just have to agree to disagree. Based on conversations I've had with racist parents who sent their kids off to college, I'm not sure those kids are in fact getting good guidance about what is and is not an appropriate Halloween costume. A little reinforcement around this issue at Halloween might be a valuable lesson for some college students.

Sounds like quite the indictment of Yale if you think they’ve been admitting students over the past decade or so who’d show up at a party in blackface. Or, perhaps, you’re itching to impose your own censorious standards of conduct and dress on students.

Either way, not a good look for the Yale community.

Again, we're going to have to agree to disagree. They're super super bright kids and I doubt any of them would dress in blackface. But no one's born racist, you are taught it. And yes, it exists at Yale and Princeton and lots of other places. But it can be untaught.

Yes, we will have to agree to disagree. These are topics to cover in a freshman orientation. The idea that a Yale residential college head needs to push an ongoing anti-racism agenda, complete with dire warnings at Halloween about what costumes might be deemed offensive to someone, elevates political correctness over faith in students’ ability to exercise sound judgment. And it runs the risk of never being enough, because once a university administration has waded into being the speech and expression police on campus there’s no easy exit.

Comparatively speaking, Princeton has toed a more sensible line, more frequently coming down in favor of First Amendment rights while making it clearly understood to students that protected speech can have negative or unintended consequences.

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Anonymous wrote:I lost respect for Yale when they coddled those ridiculous students who screamed at the master of one of the residential colleges for taking the oh-so-controversial position that Yale students should be allowed to assume responsibility for their own Halloween costumes. No doubt Princeton is largely left-wing now, too, but it still seems to prioritize academic excellence in a way that Yale does not.

You need to go to Princeton. I have no idea what this costume whining is about but it sounds like New Haven and Yale are way too much for you to handle.

It was more the idea of being treated like responsible young adults that was too much for the Yale students to handle. The residential college master at Silliman ended up stepping down when the hysterical students should have been reprimanded for their behavior. It sent a clear message that Yale had lost its way.

I don't think wearing black face as part of your Halloween costume at Princeton is going to go over particularly either. But go ahead and give it a try and I guess you can see.

You’re completely missing the point. Wearing blackface is bad. The head of a Yale residential college and his wife, however, were attacked by students for taking the position that Yale could rely upon students to make the right decisions for themselves. The students were incensed that the residential college wasn’t giving students specific instructions as to what Halloween costumes (!)would be considered offensive or inappropriate, and demanded that the professor step down from his position for his perceived lack of allyship.

Yale’s senior leadership then stood by idly when the professor acceded to these demands, when they should have had the professor’s back. If a school is that spineless when it comes to a silly issue like this, it sends a strong signal that it’s not going to insist on academic rigor in the classroom, either.

Princeton is left-wing now, too, but it hasn’t embarrassed itself like Yale did. It’s not a coincidence that it’s Yale that’s now putting out reports on how elite academic institutions (i.e., like Yale) can regain respect.

Princeton speaks out aggressively against the current administration's attacks on higher education, so A+ for Princeton for that.

As far as Halloween, we'll just have to agree to disagree. Based on conversations I've had with racist parents who sent their kids off to college, I'm not sure those kids are in fact getting good guidance about what is and is not an appropriate Halloween costume. A little reinforcement around this issue at Halloween might be a valuable lesson for some college students.

Sounds like quite the indictment of Yale if you think they’ve been admitting students over the past decade or so who’d show up at a party in blackface. Or, perhaps, you’re itching to impose your own censorious standards of conduct and dress on students.

Either way, not a good look for the Yale community.

Again, we're going to have to agree to disagree. They're super super bright kids and I doubt any of them would dress in blackface. But no one's born racist, you are taught it. And yes, it exists at Yale and Princeton and lots of other places. But it can be untaught.

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Anonymous wrote:I lost respect for Yale when they coddled those ridiculous students who screamed at the master of one of the residential colleges for taking the oh-so-controversial position that Yale students should be allowed to assume responsibility for their own Halloween costumes. No doubt Princeton is largely left-wing now, too, but it still seems to prioritize academic excellence in a way that Yale does not.

You need to go to Princeton. I have no idea what this costume whining is about but it sounds like New Haven and Yale are way too much for you to handle.

It was more the idea of being treated like responsible young adults that was too much for the Yale students to handle. The residential college master at Silliman ended up stepping down when the hysterical students should have been reprimanded for their behavior. It sent a clear message that Yale had lost its way.

I don't think wearing black face as part of your Halloween costume at Princeton is going to go over particularly either. But go ahead and give it a try and I guess you can see.

You’re completely missing the point. Wearing blackface is bad. The head of a Yale residential college and his wife, however, were attacked by students for taking the position that Yale could rely upon students to make the right decisions for themselves. The students were incensed that the residential college wasn’t giving students specific instructions as to what Halloween costumes (!)would be considered offensive or inappropriate, and demanded that the professor step down from his position for his perceived lack of allyship.

Yale’s senior leadership then stood by idly when the professor acceded to these demands, when they should have had the professor’s back. If a school is that spineless when it comes to a silly issue like this, it sends a strong signal that it’s not going to insist on academic rigor in the classroom, either.

Princeton is left-wing now, too, but it hasn’t embarrassed itself like Yale did. It’s not a coincidence that it’s Yale that’s now putting out reports on how elite academic institutions (i.e., like Yale) can regain respect.

Princeton speaks out aggressively against the current administration's attacks on higher education, so A+ for Princeton for that.

As far as Halloween, we'll just have to agree to disagree. Based on conversations I've had with racist parents who sent their kids off to college, I'm not sure those kids are in fact getting good guidance about what is and is not an appropriate Halloween costume. A little reinforcement around this issue at Halloween might be a valuable lesson for some college students.

Sounds like quite the indictment of Yale if you think they’ve been admitting students over the past decade or so who’d show up at a party in blackface. Or, perhaps, you’re itching to impose your own censorious standards of conduct and dress on students.

Either way, not a good look for the Yale community.

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Anonymous wrote:I lost respect for Yale when they coddled those ridiculous students who screamed at the master of one of the residential colleges for taking the oh-so-controversial position that Yale students should be allowed to assume responsibility for their own Halloween costumes. No doubt Princeton is largely left-wing now, too, but it still seems to prioritize academic excellence in a way that Yale does not.

You need to go to Princeton. I have no idea what this costume whining is about but it sounds like New Haven and Yale are way too much for you to handle.

It was more the idea of being treated like responsible young adults that was too much for the Yale students to handle. The residential college master at Silliman ended up stepping down when the hysterical students should have been reprimanded for their behavior. It sent a clear message that Yale had lost its way.

I don't think wearing black face as part of your Halloween costume at Princeton is going to go over particularly either. But go ahead and give it a try and I guess you can see.

You’re completely missing the point. Wearing blackface is bad. The head of a Yale residential college and his wife, however, were attacked by students for taking the position that Yale could rely upon students to make the right decisions for themselves. The students were incensed that the residential college wasn’t giving students specific instructions as to what Halloween costumes (!)would be considered offensive or inappropriate, and demanded that the professor step down from his position for his perceived lack of allyship.

Yale’s senior leadership then stood by idly when the professor acceded to these demands, when they should have had the professor’s back. If a school is that spineless when it comes to a silly issue like this, it sends a strong signal that it’s not going to insist on academic rigor in the classroom, either.

Princeton is left-wing now, too, but it hasn’t embarrassed itself like Yale did. It’s not a coincidence that it’s Yale that’s now putting out reports on how elite academic institutions (i.e., like Yale) can regain respect.

Princeton speaks out aggressively against the current administration's attacks on higher education, so A+ for Princeton for that.

As far as Halloween, we'll just have to agree to disagree. Based on conversations I've had with racist parents who sent their kids off to college, I'm not sure those kids are in fact getting good guidance about what is and is not an appropriate Halloween costume. A little reinforcement around this issue at Halloween might be a valuable lesson for some college students.

Sounds like quite the indictment of Yale if you think they’ve been admitting students over the past decade or so who’d show up at a party in blackface. Or, perhaps, you’re itching to impose your own censorious standards of conduct and dress on students.

Either way, not a good look for the Yale community.

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Anonymous wrote:I lost respect for Yale when they coddled those ridiculous students who screamed at the master of one of the residential colleges for taking the oh-so-controversial position that Yale students should be allowed to assume responsibility for their own Halloween costumes. No doubt Princeton is largely left-wing now, too, but it still seems to prioritize academic excellence in a way that Yale does not.

You need to go to Princeton. I have no idea what this costume whining is about but it sounds like New Haven and Yale are way too much for you to handle.

It was more the idea of being treated like responsible young adults that was too much for the Yale students to handle. The residential college master at Silliman ended up stepping down when the hysterical students should have been reprimanded for their behavior. It sent a clear message that Yale had lost its way.

I don't think wearing black face as part of your Halloween costume at Princeton is going to go over particularly either. But go ahead and give it a try and I guess you can see.

You’re completely missing the point. Wearing blackface is bad. The head of a Yale residential college and his wife, however, were attacked by students for taking the position that Yale could rely upon students to make the right decisions for themselves. The students were incensed that the residential college wasn’t giving students specific instructions as to what Halloween costumes (!)would be considered offensive or inappropriate, and demanded that the professor step down from his position for his perceived lack of allyship.

Yale’s senior leadership then stood by idly when the professor acceded to these demands, when they should have had the professor’s back. If a school is that spineless when it comes to a silly issue like this, it sends a strong signal that it’s not going to insist on academic rigor in the classroom, either.

Princeton is left-wing now, too, but it hasn’t embarrassed itself like Yale did. It’s not a coincidence that it’s Yale that’s now putting out reports on how elite academic institutions (i.e., like Yale) can regain respect.

Princeton speaks out aggressively against the current administration's attacks on higher education, so A+ for Princeton for that.

As far as Halloween, we'll just have to agree to disagree. Based on conversations I've had with racist parents who sent their kids off to college, I'm not sure those kids are in fact getting good guidance about what is and is not an appropriate Halloween costume. A little reinforcement around this issue at Halloween might be a valuable lesson for some college students.

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Anonymous wrote:I lost respect for Yale when they coddled those ridiculous students who screamed at the master of one of the residential colleges for taking the oh-so-controversial position that Yale students should be allowed to assume responsibility for their own Halloween costumes. No doubt Princeton is largely left-wing now, too, but it still seems to prioritize academic excellence in a way that Yale does not.

You need to go to Princeton. I have no idea what this costume whining is about but it sounds like New Haven and Yale are way too much for you to handle.

It was more the idea of being treated like responsible young adults that was too much for the Yale students to handle. The residential college master at Silliman ended up stepping down when the hysterical students should have been reprimanded for their behavior. It sent a clear message that Yale had lost its way.

I don't think wearing black face as part of your Halloween costume at Princeton is going to go over particularly either. But go ahead and give it a try and I guess you can see.

You’re completely missing the point. Wearing blackface is bad. The head of a Yale residential college and his wife, however, were attacked by students for taking the position that Yale could rely upon students to make the right decisions for themselves. The students were incensed that the residential college wasn’t giving students specific instructions as to what Halloween costumes (!)would be considered offensive or inappropriate, and demanded that the professor step down from his position for his perceived lack of allyship.

Yale’s senior leadership then stood by idly when the professor acceded to these demands, when they should have had the professor’s back. If a school is that spineless when it comes to a silly issue like this, it sends a strong signal that it’s not going to insist on academic rigor in the classroom, either.

Princeton is left-wing now, too, but it hasn’t embarrassed itself like Yale did. It’s not a coincidence that it’s Yale that’s now putting out reports on how elite academic institutions (i.e., like Yale) can regain respect.

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Anonymous wrote:Residential college system at Yale was more appealing to me than eating clubs at Princeton but your daughter may feel the opposite.

+1000 from another Yalie

The residential colleges are randomly assigned, you don't have to apply like a fraternity - which turned me off of the eating clubs

All first year students are randomly assigned to a residential college at Princeton. You don't apply to residential colleges like a fraternity. I currently have a child and a niece there.

The misinformation on DCUM is quite exhausting. Eating clubs have nothing to do with residential colleges at Princeton. Eating clubs are for upperclassmen only. Seniors and juniors do not have to join an eating club if they don't want to.

Let's repeat this again for those who have issues with comprehension. Princeton has a residential college system. Students are randomly assigned to a residential college. All first year and sophomores at Princeton are automatically on the university dining plan.

Eating clubs are ONLY for upperclassmen. This is not mandatory. If you want to join an eating club for your junior and senior year, then you can. If you want to do any of the following options: remain on the university dining plan, go co-op, go independent, then you can do any of those choices as well. I know many juniors and seniors who do not join eating clubs. My niece is at Princeton, and she lives in one of those Victorian houses off campus with her co-op group. Joining an eating club is a choice for ONLY juniors and seniors. Princeton will not force a student to join an eating club.

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Anonymous wrote:I lost respect for Yale when they coddled those ridiculous students who screamed at the master of one of the residential colleges for taking the oh-so-controversial position that Yale students should be allowed to assume responsibility for their own Halloween costumes. No doubt Princeton is largely left-wing now, too, but it still seems to prioritize academic excellence in a way that Yale does not.

You need to go to Princeton. I have no idea what this costume whining is about but it sounds like New Haven and Yale are way too much for you to handle.

It was more the idea of being treated like responsible young adults that was too much for the Yale students to handle. The residential college master at Silliman ended up stepping down when the hysterical students should have been reprimanded for their behavior. It sent a clear message that Yale had lost its way.

I don't think wearing black face as part of your Halloween costume at Princeton is going to go over particularly either. But go ahead and give it a try and I guess you can see.

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Anonymous wrote:Residential college system at Yale was more appealing to me than eating clubs at Princeton but your daughter may feel the opposite.

+1000 from another Yalie

The residential colleges are randomly assigned, you don't have to apply like a fraternity - which turned me off of the eating clubs

Anonymous wrote:Yale is also the place where an employee had to take it upon himself to smash a stained glass window depicting slavery for the image to be removed. Oh, and it took them years to rename the residential college that housed this window, which honored a white supremacist.

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Anonymous wrote:I lost respect for Yale when they coddled those ridiculous students who screamed at the master of one of the residential colleges for taking the oh-so-controversial position that Yale students should be allowed to assume responsibility for their own Halloween costumes. No doubt Princeton is largely left-wing now, too, but it still seems to prioritize academic excellence in a way that Yale does not.

You need to go to Princeton. I have no idea what this costume whining is about but it sounds like New Haven and Yale are way too much for you to handle.

It was more the idea of being treated like responsible young adults that was too much for the Yale students to handle. The residential college master at Silliman ended up stepping down when the hysterical students should have been reprimanded for their behavior. It sent a clear message that Yale had lost its way.

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Anonymous wrote:I lost respect for Yale when they coddled those ridiculous students who screamed at the master of one of the residential colleges for taking the oh-so-controversial position that Yale students should be allowed to assume responsibility for their own Halloween costumes. No doubt Princeton is largely left-wing now, too, but it still seems to prioritize academic excellence in a way that Yale does not.

You need to go to Princeton. I have no idea what this costume whining is about but it sounds like New Haven and Yale are way too much for you to handle.

Anonymous wrote:I lost respect for Yale when they coddled those ridiculous students who screamed at the master of one of the residential colleges for taking the oh-so-controversial position that Yale students should be allowed to assume responsibility for their own Halloween costumes. No doubt Princeton is largely left-wing now, too, but it still seems to prioritize academic excellence in a way that Yale does not.