Anonymous
Post 03/03/2024 23:20     Subject: People who would not vote for Biden, what is your alternative?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So Trump wins so what? I despise him but the guy is an idiot and so is Biden. So Trump wins, we're not all going to die. We didn't die the first time he was elected and we won't ever. People think he's Satan and he's not that powerful. There are plenty of horrible people in Congress who do the dirty work. Trump is actually a mess of a person who can't do shit. He is in such a mess but people are so afraid of him which I find both frustrating and hilarious. The guy could not be more of an idiot. Yes a terrible evil idiot but an idiot nevertheless. Just because I do not feel Biden is worthy of my vote does not make me so scared of Trump winning. Not voting for Biden because he's a poor leader does not make it right to criticize that choice - it's a weak position to pretend we're somehow going to win big with Biden just because he's not Trump. We can deal with the Trump mess as we would have to deal with the Biden mess if he should win!


You prefer trump so vote for trump.


You should really not be encouraging someone who doesn’t like your candidate to vote for his opponent, especially in this area. You should be thrilled at a write in/no show rather than a Trump
vote in VA.

You won’t lift a finger to improve your candidate. Literally all you’re willing to do is scold people on the internet. You’re sure you’re not a MAGA? Cause you’re doing their work.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2024 23:17     Subject: People who would not vote for Biden, what is your alternative?

Anonymous wrote:So Trump wins so what? I despise him but the guy is an idiot and so is Biden. So Trump wins, we're not all going to die. We didn't die the first time he was elected and we won't ever. People think he's Satan and he's not that powerful. There are plenty of horrible people in Congress who do the dirty work. Trump is actually a mess of a person who can't do shit. He is in such a mess but people are so afraid of him which I find both frustrating and hilarious. The guy could not be more of an idiot. Yes a terrible evil idiot but an idiot nevertheless. Just because I do not feel Biden is worthy of my vote does not make me so scared of Trump winning. Not voting for Biden because he's a poor leader does not make it right to criticize that choice - it's a weak position to pretend we're somehow going to win big with Biden just because he's not Trump. We can deal with the Trump mess as we would have to deal with the Biden mess if he should win!


You prefer trump so vote for trump.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2024 23:12     Subject: People who would not vote for Biden, what is your alternative?

So Trump wins so what? I despise him but the guy is an idiot and so is Biden. So Trump wins, we're not all going to die. We didn't die the first time he was elected and we won't ever. People think he's Satan and he's not that powerful. There are plenty of horrible people in Congress who do the dirty work. Trump is actually a mess of a person who can't do shit. He is in such a mess but people are so afraid of him which I find both frustrating and hilarious. The guy could not be more of an idiot. Yes a terrible evil idiot but an idiot nevertheless. Just because I do not feel Biden is worthy of my vote does not make me so scared of Trump winning. Not voting for Biden because he's a poor leader does not make it right to criticize that choice - it's a weak position to pretend we're somehow going to win big with Biden just because he's not Trump. We can deal with the Trump mess as we would have to deal with the Biden mess if he should win!
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2024 23:09     Subject: People who would not vote for Biden, what is your alternative?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'll be voting for Claudia de la Cruz. I hope enough people vote 3rd party or abstain that it sends a huge wakeup call to both parties. No more octogenarian candidates, no more funneling billions into a foreign apartheid state actively engaging in ethnic cleansing, no more taking the American voters for granted. I will not be held hostage by the Democratic Party simply because Trump is the alternative.


This is exactly how I feel. I cannot keep supporting candidates I disagree with simply because they are not Trump. The Democratic Party had 4 years to groom and present another candidate other than Biden. I disagree with Biden's handling of major issues such as immigration, crime, and the Gaza war. Yet, I should keep supporting him?


Well, then expect to get Trump, who would not be trying to get a ceasefire with Hamas, who would not be sending aid to the Palestinians and who would continue to erode rights in the US and blow up NATO.



Your disregard for Palestinian lives is so blatant it is disgusting.


Your disregard.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2024 23:04     Subject: People who would not vote for Biden, what is your alternative?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'll be voting for Claudia de la Cruz. I hope enough people vote 3rd party or abstain that it sends a huge wakeup call to both parties. No more octogenarian candidates, no more funneling billions into a foreign apartheid state actively engaging in ethnic cleansing, no more taking the American voters for granted. I will not be held hostage by the Democratic Party simply because Trump is the alternative.


This is exactly how I feel. I cannot keep supporting candidates I disagree with simply because they are not Trump. The Democratic Party had 4 years to groom and present another candidate other than Biden. I disagree with Biden's handling of major issues such as immigration, crime, and the Gaza war. Yet, I should keep supporting him?


Well, then expect to get Trump, who would not be trying to get a ceasefire with Hamas, who would not be sending aid to the Palestinians and who would continue to erode rights in the US and blow up NATO.



Your disregard for Palestinian lives is so blatant it is disgusting.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2024 23:02     Subject: Re:People who would not vote for Biden, what is your alternative?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Your vote for nobody is potentially a vote for Trump. Trump can’t win unless he suppresses the vote. He hasn’t broadened his base. The main campaign tactic will be to get people who voted for Biden in 2020 to stay home or throw out their votes via state legislatures.


I don’t care what you think. I am not voting for Biden or Trump for that matter. He needs to earn my vote to get it and the fact that he aided and abetted a genocide means he won’t get it. If he loses because of people like me so be it. Maybe democrats will start paying more attention next time. Meanwhile you will just have to cope that no amount of guilt tripping will make some of us vote for Biden. Deal with it.


The rest of us will just handle it then. Take a time out.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2024 22:59     Subject: Re:People who would not vote for Biden, what is your alternative?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Your vote for nobody is potentially a vote for Trump. Trump can’t win unless he suppresses the vote. He hasn’t broadened his base. The main campaign tactic will be to get people who voted for Biden in 2020 to stay home or throw out their votes via state legislatures.


It's not our job to get candidates elected. It's their job to appeal to the most people and get themselves elected. I'm not going to vote for a shitty candidate, giving them a perceived mandate to do things I disagree with.

You want votes? Put up a decent candidate.


It is your job to keep someone as destructive to the country as Trump out of office.

This isn’t Bush vs Gore or McCain vs Obama.


Not PP but have the same views. Sorry not voting for a person aiding and abetting genocide no what you tell me.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2024 22:57     Subject: Re:People who would not vote for Biden, what is your alternative?

Anonymous wrote:Your vote for nobody is potentially a vote for Trump. Trump can’t win unless he suppresses the vote. He hasn’t broadened his base. The main campaign tactic will be to get people who voted for Biden in 2020 to stay home or throw out their votes via state legislatures.


I don’t care what you think. I am not voting for Biden or Trump for that matter. He needs to earn my vote to get it and the fact that he aided and abetted a genocide means he won’t get it. If he loses because of people like me so be it. Maybe democrats will start paying more attention next time. Meanwhile you will just have to cope that no amount of guilt tripping will make some of us vote for Biden. Deal with it.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2024 22:56     Subject: People who would not vote for Biden, what is your alternative?

Dens are trying to fix the border. It is the Republicans stopping it.....but yeah, refuse to vote to show the Dems
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2024 22:27     Subject: People who would not vote for Biden, what is your alternative?

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Anonymous wrote:The Biden fans are yelling at the wrong people.

Read the Times poll, front page this morning. The reason Biden is losing is because he is not winning in the same groups he won in 2020. Gaza isn’t a secret. Disappointment among Black voters isn’t a secret.

So yell at your candidate. Tell him to apologize to the people he’s failed. Tell him to use the power he has right now to do better. Don’t yell at people refusing to do the same thing again and expect different results.


What state is trump going to take that did not want him last time around? Name a single one where he has gained and not lost votes.


Great! You've got it all sewn up then. No need to start 50 zillion threads on the same topic.


But what state is going a different way than 2020?


Michigan


Very much doubt it. Trump is the darling of the Jewish vote


Haha. Jewish people are smart and unlikely to vote for Trump or Biden but keep trying to push your elderly candidates.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2024 22:11     Subject: People who would not vote for Biden, what is your alternative?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's a close election. Not voting, or voting for anyone other than Biden is a vote for Trump.

Like it or not, that's the fact.


You could say the same thing in the opposite direction. Which means your statement is nonsensical.

Not voting is not voting. I do not owe your candidate my vote.

Why do you think your candidate is entitled to votes? Why is it so impossible to grasp that votes have to be earned?


Please. You earn votes by not being the worst candidate. You are young or not paying attention. That is how it goes

There has never been a more low quality choice than trump in recent history. Keep him out of power


You missed 2016 eh? How did your “you have to vote for Hilary she’s earned your vote by not being the worst candidate” go? Maybe time for new tactics?


Well, it was terrible, but it was least terrible for affluent straight white CIS people (which describes much of DCUM) and so it would be again.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2024 22:02     Subject: People who would not vote for Biden, what is your alternative?

Trump because of the border. Can't deny Biden is royally f-ing us there
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2024 21:30     Subject: Re:People who would not vote for Biden, what is your alternative?

Trump

Anyone but Biden and Harris
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2024 21:30     Subject: People who would not vote for Biden, what is your alternative?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's a close election. Not voting, or voting for anyone other than Biden is a vote for Trump.

Like it or not, that's the fact.


You could say the same thing in the opposite direction. Which means your statement is nonsensical.

Not voting is not voting. I do not owe your candidate my vote.

Why do you think your candidate is entitled to votes? Why is it so impossible to grasp that votes have to be earned?


Please. You earn votes by not being the worst candidate. You are young or not paying attention. That is how it goes

There has never been a more low quality choice than trump in recent history. Keep him out of power


You missed 2016 eh? How did your “you have to vote for Hilary she’s earned your vote by not being the worst candidate” go? Maybe time for new tactics?
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2024 21:28     Subject: People who would not vote for Biden, what is your alternative?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's a close election. Not voting, or voting for anyone other than Biden is a vote for Trump.

Like it or not, that's the fact.


Weird. Someone in Texas writing in is “a vote for Trump”?

Or just the votes of people in states you feel entitled to?

It’s March. We vote in November. Spending the next eight months trying to convince people your candidate doesn’t care about that they should be ashamed of themselves for noticing isn’t the best use of your time. Tell your candidate to do better. The people who aren’t voting for him already know he doesn’t care what they think.


Again, every vote counts. It's a close election. Not voting, or voting for anyone other than Biden is a vote for Trump.

Again, like it or not, that's the fact. It's not about "being entitled" - it's about stopping Trump.


Unless you’re writing in in a Trump state like Texas. Then a write in is a vote for Biden. See how that works?

Your candidate isn’t entitled to anyone’s vote, he has the opportunity to earn them. Not doing so and expecting people to show up and vote for him because he’s not Trump is the very epitome of entitlement.