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Anonymous wrote:For many students (especially wealthy ones) school is one of the only chances they get to be with a diverse group of people and to learn about the humanity of people that aren’t usually part of their social sphere. They do that in real time through personal interactions and in lessons while they are learning to write, to do math, and about ancient civilizations. These are essential experiences that will contribute to their success.

The world is not as small as it used to be and being able to communicate and relate to people from various cultures and countries is a leg up. Knowing the foreign CEO’s country’s history is a leg up.

Teachers need help curating these experiences, as they weren’t educated like this themselves. DEI professionals support these efforts.

The DEI criticisms I’ve seen here are very valid, but they also sound like bad DEI. When DEI is done right it benefits and enriches kids and society.

BS. And if true DEI is a piss poor substitute for having hobbies, a faith community, sports, a neighborhood, etc. including someone outside your own race.

In fact, PP’s comment is very illuminating. Because it tends to be weird rich super liberal white people (and their associated private schools) who are the most defensive about DEI, as if they think by clinging to this stupid nonsense, they are absolved from being typical out-of-touch rich people in every meaningful dimension of their lives.

Not BS at all. Faith communities? People go to church less than they ever did before. Sports? Hobbies? Depends on the sport and hobby. Fencing, sailing. Yea, you aren’t really making your kid leave their bubble. Neighborhood? If you live in a neighborhood where the houses are all 1-2 million+ when exactly are you encountering the regular people biking around the neighborhood.

I haven’t seen anyone say DEI is the answer to all of societies problems, but at least it’s an attempt to work on some of them.

Anti-DEI people don’t ever explain how removing DEI completely helps fix any of the issues DEI supports and makes better.

Don’t try to get rid of something if you cannot propose something better.

All the things you dismiss because supposedly no one is doing them — um, how about, do those things? Like many of us actually do?

DEI often is actively harmful and divisive. So, no, I don’t have to have a replacement ideology for something that sucks. It’s perfectly reasonable to just want it gone. Acquaint yourself with the principle: First, do no harm.

What things do you do?

Literally everything I listed. Are you the weird poster who keeps responding “This never happened” when people describe ridiculous DEI initiatives? Are you going to call me a liar? Why are you bothering to ask me what I do?

Where is the list?

Anonymous wrote:I think people, ( even radical feminist liberals like me) , are tired of being told they are racists and are tired of being forced fed pronouncements about diversity.

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Anonymous wrote:How about having DEI actually be about Diversity and Inclusion instead of Division and Exclusion.

How about schools teach kids to read and write and understand basic chronological history? And let parents instruct their children in the moral complexities of multiculturalism?

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Anonymous wrote:For many students (especially wealthy ones) school is one of the only chances they get to be with a diverse group of people and to learn about the humanity of people that aren’t usually part of their social sphere. They do that in real time through personal interactions and in lessons while they are learning to write, to do math, and about ancient civilizations. These are essential experiences that will contribute to their success.

The world is not as small as it used to be and being able to communicate and relate to people from various cultures and countries is a leg up. Knowing the foreign CEO’s country’s history is a leg up.

Teachers need help curating these experiences, as they weren’t educated like this themselves. DEI professionals support these efforts.

The DEI criticisms I’ve seen here are very valid, but they also sound like bad DEI. When DEI is done right it benefits and enriches kids and society.

BS. And if true DEI is a piss poor substitute for having hobbies, a faith community, sports, a neighborhood, etc. including someone outside your own race.

In fact, PP’s comment is very illuminating. Because it tends to be weird rich super liberal white people (and their associated private schools) who are the most defensive about DEI, as if they think by clinging to this stupid nonsense, they are absolved from being typical out-of-touch rich people in every meaningful dimension of their lives.

Not BS at all. Faith communities? People go to church less than they ever did before. Sports? Hobbies? Depends on the sport and hobby. Fencing, sailing. Yea, you aren’t really making your kid leave their bubble. Neighborhood? If you live in a neighborhood where the houses are all 1-2 million+ when exactly are you encountering the regular people biking around the neighborhood.

I haven’t seen anyone say DEI is the answer to all of societies problems, but at least it’s an attempt to work on some of them.

Anti-DEI people don’t ever explain how removing DEI completely helps fix any of the issues DEI supports and makes better.

Don’t try to get rid of something if you cannot propose something better.

All the things you dismiss because supposedly no one is doing them — um, how about, do those things? Like many of us actually do?

DEI often is actively harmful and divisive. So, no, I don’t have to have a replacement ideology for something that sucks. It’s perfectly reasonable to just want it gone. Acquaint yourself with the principle: First, do no harm.

What things do you do?

Literally everything I listed. Are you the weird poster who keeps responding “This never happened” when people describe ridiculous DEI initiatives? Are you going to call me a liar? Why are you bothering to ask me what I do?

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Anonymous wrote:For many students (especially wealthy ones) school is one of the only chances they get to be with a diverse group of people and to learn about the humanity of people that aren’t usually part of their social sphere. They do that in real time through personal interactions and in lessons while they are learning to write, to do math, and about ancient civilizations. These are essential experiences that will contribute to their success.

The world is not as small as it used to be and being able to communicate and relate to people from various cultures and countries is a leg up. Knowing the foreign CEO’s country’s history is a leg up.

Teachers need help curating these experiences, as they weren’t educated like this themselves. DEI professionals support these efforts.

The DEI criticisms I’ve seen here are very valid, but they also sound like bad DEI. When DEI is done right it benefits and enriches kids and society.

BS. And if true DEI is a piss poor substitute for having hobbies, a faith community, sports, a neighborhood, etc. including someone outside your own race.

In fact, PP’s comment is very illuminating. Because it tends to be weird rich super liberal white people (and their associated private schools) who are the most defensive about DEI, as if they think by clinging to this stupid nonsense, they are absolved from being typical out-of-touch rich people in every meaningful dimension of their lives.

Not BS at all. Faith communities? People go to church less than they ever did before. Sports? Hobbies? Depends on the sport and hobby. Fencing, sailing. Yea, you aren’t really making your kid leave their bubble. Neighborhood? If you live in a neighborhood where the houses are all 1-2 million+ when exactly are you encountering the regular people biking around the neighborhood.

I haven’t seen anyone say DEI is the answer to all of societies problems, but at least it’s an attempt to work on some of them.

Anti-DEI people don’t ever explain how removing DEI completely helps fix any of the issues DEI supports and makes better.

Don’t try to get rid of something if you cannot propose something better.

All the things you dismiss because supposedly no one is doing them — um, how about, do those things? Like many of us actually do?

DEI often is actively harmful and divisive. So, no, I don’t have to have a replacement ideology for something that sucks. It’s perfectly reasonable to just want it gone. Acquaint yourself with the principle: First, do no harm.

What things do you do?

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Anonymous wrote:For many students (especially wealthy ones) school is one of the only chances they get to be with a diverse group of people and to learn about the humanity of people that aren’t usually part of their social sphere. They do that in real time through personal interactions and in lessons while they are learning to write, to do math, and about ancient civilizations. These are essential experiences that will contribute to their success.

The world is not as small as it used to be and being able to communicate and relate to people from various cultures and countries is a leg up. Knowing the foreign CEO’s country’s history is a leg up.

Teachers need help curating these experiences, as they weren’t educated like this themselves. DEI professionals support these efforts.

The DEI criticisms I’ve seen here are very valid, but they also sound like bad DEI. When DEI is done right it benefits and enriches kids and society.

BS. And if true DEI is a piss poor substitute for having hobbies, a faith community, sports, a neighborhood, etc. including someone outside your own race.

In fact, PP’s comment is very illuminating. Because it tends to be weird rich super liberal white people (and their associated private schools) who are the most defensive about DEI, as if they think by clinging to this stupid nonsense, they are absolved from being typical out-of-touch rich people in every meaningful dimension of their lives.

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Anonymous wrote:For many students (especially wealthy ones) school is one of the only chances they get to be with a diverse group of people and to learn about the humanity of people that aren’t usually part of their social sphere. They do that in real time through personal interactions and in lessons while they are learning to write, to do math, and about ancient civilizations. These are essential experiences that will contribute to their success.

The world is not as small as it used to be and being able to communicate and relate to people from various cultures and countries is a leg up. Knowing the foreign CEO’s country’s history is a leg up.

Teachers need help curating these experiences, as they weren’t educated like this themselves. DEI professionals support these efforts.

The DEI criticisms I’ve seen here are very valid, but they also sound like bad DEI. When DEI is done right it benefits and enriches kids and society.

BS. And if true DEI is a piss poor substitute for having hobbies, a faith community, sports, a neighborhood, etc. including someone outside your own race.

In fact, PP’s comment is very illuminating. Because it tends to be weird rich super liberal white people (and their associated private schools) who are the most defensive about DEI, as if they think by clinging to this stupid nonsense, they are absolved from being typical out-of-touch rich people in every meaningful dimension of their lives.

Not BS at all. Faith communities? People go to church less than they ever did before. Sports? Hobbies? Depends on the sport and hobby. Fencing, sailing. Yea, you aren’t really making your kid leave their bubble. Neighborhood? If you live in a neighborhood where the houses are all 1-2 million+ when exactly are you encountering the regular people biking around the neighborhood.

I haven’t seen anyone say DEI is the answer to all of societies problems, but at least it’s an attempt to work on some of them.

Anti-DEI people don’t ever explain how removing DEI completely helps fix any of the issues DEI supports and makes better.

Don’t try to get rid of something if you cannot propose something better.

All the things you dismiss because supposedly no one is doing them — um, how about, do those things? Like many of us actually do?

DEI often is actively harmful and divisive. So, no, I don’t have to have a replacement ideology for something that sucks. It’s perfectly reasonable to just want it gone. Acquaint yourself with the principle: First, do no harm.

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Anonymous wrote:For many students (especially wealthy ones) school is one of the only chances they get to be with a diverse group of people and to learn about the humanity of people that aren’t usually part of their social sphere. They do that in real time through personal interactions and in lessons while they are learning to write, to do math, and about ancient civilizations. These are essential experiences that will contribute to their success.

The world is not as small as it used to be and being able to communicate and relate to people from various cultures and countries is a leg up. Knowing the foreign CEO’s country’s history is a leg up.

Teachers need help curating these experiences, as they weren’t educated like this themselves. DEI professionals support these efforts.

The DEI criticisms I’ve seen here are very valid, but they also sound like bad DEI. When DEI is done right it benefits and enriches kids and society.

BS. And if true DEI is a piss poor substitute for having hobbies, a faith community, sports, a neighborhood, etc. including someone outside your own race.

In fact, PP’s comment is very illuminating. Because it tends to be weird rich super liberal white people (and their associated private schools) who are the most defensive about DEI, as if they think by clinging to this stupid nonsense, they are absolved from being typical out-of-touch rich people in every meaningful dimension of their lives.

Not BS at all. Faith communities? People go to church less than they ever did before. Sports? Hobbies? Depends on the sport and hobby. Fencing, sailing. Yea, you aren’t really making your kid leave their bubble. Neighborhood? If you live in a neighborhood where the houses are all 1-2 million+ when exactly are you encountering the regular people biking around the neighborhood.

I haven’t seen anyone say DEI is the answer to all of societies problems, but at least it’s an attempt to work on some of them.

Anti-DEI people don’t ever explain how removing DEI completely helps fix any of the issues DEI supports and makes better.

Don’t try to get rid of something if you cannot propose something better.

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Anonymous wrote:For many students (especially wealthy ones) school is one of the only chances they get to be with a diverse group of people and to learn about the humanity of people that aren’t usually part of their social sphere. They do that in real time through personal interactions and in lessons while they are learning to write, to do math, and about ancient civilizations. These are essential experiences that will contribute to their success.

The world is not as small as it used to be and being able to communicate and relate to people from various cultures and countries is a leg up. Knowing the foreign CEO’s country’s history is a leg up.

Teachers need help curating these experiences, as they weren’t educated like this themselves. DEI professionals support these efforts.

The DEI criticisms I’ve seen here are very valid, but they also sound like bad DEI. When DEI is done right it benefits and enriches kids and society.

BS. And if true DEI is a piss poor substitute for having hobbies, a faith community, sports, a neighborhood, etc. including someone outside your own race.

In fact, PP’s comment is very illuminating. Because it tends to be weird rich super liberal white people (and their associated private schools) who are the most defensive about DEI, as if they think by clinging to this stupid nonsense, they are absolved from being typical out-of-touch rich people in every meaningful dimension of their lives.

Not BS at all. Faith communities? People go to church less than they ever did before. Sports? Hobbies? Depends on the sport and hobby. Fencing, sailing. Yea, you aren’t really making your kid leave their bubble. Neighborhood? If you live in a neighborhood where the houses are all 1-2 million+ when exactly are you encountering the regular people biking around the neighborhood.

I haven’t seen anyone say DEI is the answer to all of societies problems, but at least it’s an attempt to work on some of them.

Anti-DEI people don’t ever explain how removing DEI completely helps fix any of the issues DEI supports and makes better.

Don’t try to get rid of something if you cannot propose something better.

You are a total moron. All the things you dismiss because supposedly no one is doing them — um, how about, do those things? Like many of us actually do?

DEI often is actively harmful and divisive. So, no, I don’t have to have a replacement ideology for something that sucks. It’s perfectly reasonable to just want it gone. Acquaint yourself with the principle: First, do no harm.

The personal attack, followed by a bunch of ideology garble and unsupported statements. Maybe just stick to truth social or wherever this kind of stuff passes for debate.

It’s perfectly intelligible to people who aren’t DEI fanatics. I guess go back to your fencing class, because you apparently think it’s “unsupported” that hobbies, a faith community, a neighborhood, or anything outside school can include people outside your own race.

DEI isn’t just about race.

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Anonymous wrote:For many students (especially wealthy ones) school is one of the only chances they get to be with a diverse group of people and to learn about the humanity of people that aren’t usually part of their social sphere. They do that in real time through personal interactions and in lessons while they are learning to write, to do math, and about ancient civilizations. These are essential experiences that will contribute to their success.

The world is not as small as it used to be and being able to communicate and relate to people from various cultures and countries is a leg up. Knowing the foreign CEO’s country’s history is a leg up.

Teachers need help curating these experiences, as they weren’t educated like this themselves. DEI professionals support these efforts.

The DEI criticisms I’ve seen here are very valid, but they also sound like bad DEI. When DEI is done right it benefits and enriches kids and society.

BS. And if true DEI is a piss poor substitute for having hobbies, a faith community, sports, a neighborhood, etc. including someone outside your own race.

In fact, PP’s comment is very illuminating. Because it tends to be weird rich super liberal white people (and their associated private schools) who are the most defensive about DEI, as if they think by clinging to this stupid nonsense, they are absolved from being typical out-of-touch rich people in every meaningful dimension of their lives.

Not BS at all. Faith communities? People go to church less than they ever did before. Sports? Hobbies? Depends on the sport and hobby. Fencing, sailing. Yea, you aren’t really making your kid leave their bubble. Neighborhood? If you live in a neighborhood where the houses are all 1-2 million+ when exactly are you encountering the regular people biking around the neighborhood.

I haven’t seen anyone say DEI is the answer to all of societies problems, but at least it’s an attempt to work on some of them.

Anti-DEI people don’t ever explain how removing DEI completely helps fix any of the issues DEI supports and makes better.

Don’t try to get rid of something if you cannot propose something better.

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Anonymous wrote:For many students (especially wealthy ones) school is one of the only chances they get to be with a diverse group of people and to learn about the humanity of people that aren’t usually part of their social sphere. They do that in real time through personal interactions and in lessons while they are learning to write, to do math, and about ancient civilizations. These are essential experiences that will contribute to their success.

The world is not as small as it used to be and being able to communicate and relate to people from various cultures and countries is a leg up. Knowing the foreign CEO’s country’s history is a leg up.

Teachers need help curating these experiences, as they weren’t educated like this themselves. DEI professionals support these efforts.

The DEI criticisms I’ve seen here are very valid, but they also sound like bad DEI. When DEI is done right it benefits and enriches kids and society.

BS. And if true DEI is a piss poor substitute for having hobbies, a faith community, sports, a neighborhood, etc. including someone outside your own race.

In fact, PP’s comment is very illuminating. Because it tends to be weird rich super liberal white people (and their associated private schools) who are the most defensive about DEI, as if they think by clinging to this stupid nonsense, they are absolved from being typical out-of-touch rich people in every meaningful dimension of their lives.

Not BS at all. Faith communities? People go to church less than they ever did before. Sports? Hobbies? Depends on the sport and hobby. Fencing, sailing. Yea, you aren’t really making your kid leave their bubble. Neighborhood? If you live in a neighborhood where the houses are all 1-2 million+ when exactly are you encountering the regular people biking around the neighborhood.

I haven’t seen anyone say DEI is the answer to all of societies problems, but at least it’s an attempt to work on some of them.

Anti-DEI people don’t ever explain how removing DEI completely helps fix any of the issues DEI supports and makes better.

Don’t try to get rid of something if you cannot propose something better.

You are a total moron. All the things you dismiss because supposedly no one is doing them — um, how about, do those things? Like many of us actually do?

DEI often is actively harmful and divisive. So, no, I don’t have to have a replacement ideology for something that sucks. It’s perfectly reasonable to just want it gone. Acquaint yourself with the principle: First, do no harm.

The personal attack, followed by a bunch of ideology garble and unsupported statements. Maybe just stick to truth social or wherever this kind of stuff passes for debate.

It’s perfectly intelligible to people who aren’t DEI fanatics. I guess go back to your fencing class, because you apparently think it’s “unsupported” that hobbies, a faith community, a neighborhood, or anything outside school can include people outside your own race.

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Anonymous wrote:For many students (especially wealthy ones) school is one of the only chances they get to be with a diverse group of people and to learn about the humanity of people that aren’t usually part of their social sphere. They do that in real time through personal interactions and in lessons while they are learning to write, to do math, and about ancient civilizations. These are essential experiences that will contribute to their success.

The world is not as small as it used to be and being able to communicate and relate to people from various cultures and countries is a leg up. Knowing the foreign CEO’s country’s history is a leg up.

Teachers need help curating these experiences, as they weren’t educated like this themselves. DEI professionals support these efforts.

The DEI criticisms I’ve seen here are very valid, but they also sound like bad DEI. When DEI is done right it benefits and enriches kids and society.

BS. And if true DEI is a piss poor substitute for having hobbies, a faith community, sports, a neighborhood, etc. including someone outside your own race.

In fact, PP’s comment is very illuminating. Because it tends to be weird rich super liberal white people (and their associated private schools) who are the most defensive about DEI, as if they think by clinging to this stupid nonsense, they are absolved from being typical out-of-touch rich people in every meaningful dimension of their lives.

Not BS at all. Faith communities? People go to church less than they ever did before. Sports? Hobbies? Depends on the sport and hobby. Fencing, sailing. Yea, you aren’t really making your kid leave their bubble. Neighborhood? If you live in a neighborhood where the houses are all 1-2 million+ when exactly are you encountering the regular people biking around the neighborhood.

I haven’t seen anyone say DEI is the answer to all of societies problems, but at least it’s an attempt to work on some of them.

Anti-DEI people don’t ever explain how removing DEI completely helps fix any of the issues DEI supports and makes better.

Don’t try to get rid of something if you cannot propose something better.

You are a total moron. All the things you dismiss because supposedly no one is doing them — um, how about, do those things? Like many of us actually do?

DEI often is actively harmful and divisive. So, no, I don’t have to have a replacement ideology for something that sucks. It’s perfectly reasonable to just want it gone. Acquaint yourself with the principle: First, do no harm.

The personal attack, followed by a bunch of ideology garble and unsupported statements. Maybe just stick to truth social or wherever this kind of stuff passes for debate.

Anonymous wrote:How about having DEI actually be about Diversity and Inclusion instead of Division and Exclusion.