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Anonymous wrote:With violent crime soaring back to 90s levels, it's time to bring back broken windows policing. Discuss.

We already know Broken Windows doesn’t work. The cops mostly ended up hassling working class black guys on their way to their jobs (or coming home from work), because those were easy targets for making their monthly “stop” numbers. Most cops didn’t want to actually deal with a legit gangbanger carrying a firearm.

I’m fine with bringing back the jump out squads who target drug dealers or folks selling stolen goods. Also fine with random traffic stops to ensure license plates are legit, vehicle is not stolen, or no outstanding tickets greater than $1000 (this will ensnare a lot of Maryland vehicles).

Anonymous wrote:With violent crime soaring back to 90s levels, it's time to bring back broken windows policing. Discuss.

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Anonymous wrote:With violent crime soaring back to 90s levels, it's time to bring back broken windows policing. Discuss.

I think you may be rushing this. You just need to give the current policies and services more time to work. A few more years and the results will start to show positive change. You can’t just arrest and prosecute everyone and expect things to change. Have faith in the elected leaders.

Anonymous wrote:With violent crime soaring back to 90s levels, it's time to bring back broken windows policing. Discuss.

Anonymous wrote:With violent crime soaring back to 90s levels, it's time to bring back broken windows policing. Discuss.

Anonymous wrote:I. don’t. Care?

Can we Prop a castle doctrine that applies to one’s body, real property and car? Let’s go.

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Anonymous wrote:Excellent point, PP

"There is nothing progressive about allowing violent criminals to rampage through marginalized communities with impunity."

We need to provide these citizens with the wrap-around services they need, so they don't need to resort to a life of crime to survive. The failure is on society for not providing these marginalized citizens a way forward.

NP. Nobody needs to be committing carjacking and dumping the cars a few hours later “to survive”. These people aren’t stealing loaves of bread. They’re terrorizing society.

Actually it makes sense to steal a car for a few hours, use it to run errands such as the grocery store, laundry mat or a run to a food bank. Then dump it somewhere. It literally makes sense, rather than a car rental which requires a valid ID card, credit card, etc. This is really about resources.

DC should have a car rental program in which impoverished residents can check out a car for a few hours and then drop it off a hubs located throughout the city.

1) No one, and I mean no one, is car jacking in order to run errands to the grocery store, laundry mat, or a food bank. People who are going to the grocery store and laundry mat have bought into a baseline level of human decency that does not involve shoving a gun in someone's face, ordering them out of their car, and then stealing it.

2) A major reason behind youth car jacking is that these kids cannot legally drive cars. So a car rental program wouldn't even work for them. As one of the articles posted upthread mentioned, one reason you see a lot of 13/14/15/16 yr old kids carjacking is that these kids do not have drivers licenses and cannot legally drive, so car jacking is a way for them to get a car and drive. This is also a reason why so many car jackign arrests involve teens -- they are crap drivers and therefore are more likely to get in a car accident with the stolen vehicle, leading to apprehension. They are car jacking because they are immature children who are being poorly supervised or guided by adults.

3) The other major reason behind car jacking, for youth and adults, is in service to other crimes. Stealing a car in order to go commit a shooting or robbery will make it harder to be linked to the crime than using your own car. Again, a car rental service where you had to show ID would not serve this purpose. On the other hand, a car rental service where you didn't have to show idea would just become a getaway car service. Genius.

Car jacking is an EXTREMELY anti-social behavior. It's terrifying for the person being car jacked, who is not only having their mode of transportation stolen from, but generally is being threatened with their life. Car jacking among adults should be prosecuted and punished to the full ability of the law because it is the kind of crime that creates general fear in the community and can inhibit people's ability or willingness to go to work and engage in other commerce. It is really bad for communities. Car jacking among kids needs an aggressive deterrence program, where there are real consequences for the kids that do it, as well as ongoing education and messages in these communities to make sure kids understand these consequences AND understand how car jacking hurts not just the victims but also their neighbors and families, who become more fearful as car jacking becomes more common.

Also, how about before we start some kind of charitable car rental services, we just make public transportation really strong.

Anonymous wrote:I. don’t. Care?

Can we Prop a castle doctrine that applies to one’s body, real property and car? Let’s go.

Anonymous wrote:What is a wrap around service? I hear about them quite a bit.

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Anonymous wrote:Excellent point, PP

"There is nothing progressive about allowing violent criminals to rampage through marginalized communities with impunity."

We need to provide these citizens with the wrap-around services they need, so they don't need to resort to a life of crime to survive. The failure is on society for not providing these marginalized citizens a way forward.

NP. Nobody needs to be committing carjacking and dumping the cars a few hours later “to survive”. These people aren’t stealing loaves of bread. They’re terrorizing society.

Actually it makes sense to steal a car for a few hours, use it to run errands such as the grocery store, laundry mat or a run to a food bank. Then dump it somewhere. It literally makes sense, rather than a car rental which requires a valid ID card, credit card, etc. This is really about resources.

DC should have a car rental program in which impoverished residents can check out a car for a few hours and then drop it off a hubs located throughout the city.

Wtf? If I don't have a car, I would use public transport, not become a criminal.

Car jacking is an EXTREMELY anti-social behavior. It's terrifying for the person being car jacked, who is not only having their mode of transportation stolen from, but generally is being threatened with their life. Car jacking among adults should be prosecuted and punished to the full ability of the law because it is the kind of crime that creates general fear in the community and can inhibit people's ability or willingness to go to work and engage in other commerce. It is really bad for communities. Car jacking among kids needs an aggressive deterrence program, where there are real consequences for the kids that do it, as well as ongoing education and messages in these communities to make sure kids understand these consequences AND understand how car jacking hurts not just the victims but also their neighbors and families, who become more fearful as car jacking becomes more common.

Anonymous wrote:Good recap at link in Schwab's post. The voices of parents and those in the community should be given more weight than those of ideologues and activists who may not even live in DC, imho.