Anonymous
Post 01/21/2024 10:12     Subject: I don't trust doctors anymore

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I do a lot of research when I pick doctors, and my policy is to wait for the doctor I want rather than go to first available doctor. For me, it’s always been worth the wait, and going to the first available doc generally has led to wrong diagnoses or more unnecessary testing. You can get lucky (say there was a cancellation), but often you just get the practitioner who nobody else wants b/c they have cruddy bedside manner or are new.

Obv you can’t do this for emergency situations, but having a good PCP who can assist you in those times helps a lot. Your PCP should be just as trusted as your therapist, IMO. They are the conduit to good specialists.

I also favor women doctors. Some of the rudest doctors I’ve been to have been women, but at the same time my favorite doctors have all been women. Men tend to be dismissive of women… talking. I’m fine with men for surgeries and things where they’re just doing the thing (eg removing the polyp), but not for anything that involves listening or explaining.

I’m sure there are wonderful, caring male doctors who are patient and can listen and explain; I just haven’t been to any. It could be me—I’m generally anxious when I go to the doctor, and maybe that anxiousness has led to them dismissing me.


Yeah, ok. But have you tried to find a good PCP in the DMV lately? One you can actually get in to see? My PCP, whom I'd been seeing for years, was running a 6 mo wait for appointments, and her NP was a mess. I finally chose to go concierge, which has worked out really well, but it took me months to find one who is a good fit because most of the good concierge PCPs have long wait lists at this point.

I am a woman and have had serious issues with male doctors being dismissive as well (it almost killed me once), so I look for female physicians as well.


This is reflective of the fact that good doctors cannot give the kind of care they want, for the most part, in non-concierge settings. They need fewer patients, and to make that model work, it's concierge.

I am a doctor who works as a federal employee with an underserved population, and I chose this job for two reasons: 1) security of my own health insurance (have congenital issues that make me a liability in that area), and 2) there isn't the constant pressure from an equity firm to get patients in and out in less than 10 minutes per visit, or the requirement to see over 30 patients a day.

I make less money, and that is fine. I do just fine. But more importantly, the explicit mission is to give good care, and one way or another, I am supported in that.


Your patients are lucky to have a provider who cares. Thank you for that service.


Thank you for noticing.

I love the work. It's a job, and I've never thought I was a god, but it's a job that takes a long stretch of training and a lot of experience to do well. It's worth doing well, though. That means more than the money.


Done well, the healing arts are beautiful. Done poorly, it's sacrilege.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2024 10:05     Subject: I don't trust doctors anymore

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I do a lot of research when I pick doctors, and my policy is to wait for the doctor I want rather than go to first available doctor. For me, it’s always been worth the wait, and going to the first available doc generally has led to wrong diagnoses or more unnecessary testing. You can get lucky (say there was a cancellation), but often you just get the practitioner who nobody else wants b/c they have cruddy bedside manner or are new.

Obv you can’t do this for emergency situations, but having a good PCP who can assist you in those times helps a lot. Your PCP should be just as trusted as your therapist, IMO. They are the conduit to good specialists.

I also favor women doctors. Some of the rudest doctors I’ve been to have been women, but at the same time my favorite doctors have all been women. Men tend to be dismissive of women… talking. I’m fine with men for surgeries and things where they’re just doing the thing (eg removing the polyp), but not for anything that involves listening or explaining.

I’m sure there are wonderful, caring male doctors who are patient and can listen and explain; I just haven’t been to any. It could be me—I’m generally anxious when I go to the doctor, and maybe that anxiousness has led to them dismissing me.


Yeah, ok. But have you tried to find a good PCP in the DMV lately? One you can actually get in to see? My PCP, whom I'd been seeing for years, was running a 6 mo wait for appointments, and her NP was a mess. I finally chose to go concierge, which has worked out really well, but it took me months to find one who is a good fit because most of the good concierge PCPs have long wait lists at this point.

I am a woman and have had serious issues with male doctors being dismissive as well (it almost killed me once), so I look for female physicians as well.


This is reflective of the fact that good doctors cannot give the kind of care they want, for the most part, in non-concierge settings. They need fewer patients, and to make that model work, it's concierge.

I am a doctor who works as a federal employee with an underserved population, and I chose this job for two reasons: 1) security of my own health insurance (have congenital issues that make me a liability in that area), and 2) there isn't the constant pressure from an equity firm to get patients in and out in less than 10 minutes per visit, or the requirement to see over 30 patients a day.

I make less money, and that is fine. I do just fine. But more importantly, the explicit mission is to give good care, and one way or another, I am supported in that.


Your patients are lucky to have a provider who cares. Thank you for that service.


Thank you for noticing.

I love the work. It's a job, and I've never thought I was a god, but it's a job that takes a long stretch of training and a lot of experience to do well. It's worth doing well, though. That means more than the money.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2024 10:03     Subject: I don't trust doctors anymore

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:AI needs to compleley upend PCP.

It is absolutely despicable we have a concierge system. It just means the rich get healthcare while everyone else dies. Do you want a French Revolution? Because this is how you get one.

AI cannot come fast enough to complete replace PCPs altogether. You input your vitals, blood work, and panels of tests and AI can mine the data to determine health issues during a routing checkup. Cannot come fast enough.


Poe's law strikes again!


Did you think Poe's Law can only be present once in a thread?
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2024 09:49     Subject: I don't trust doctors anymore

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I do a lot of research when I pick doctors, and my policy is to wait for the doctor I want rather than go to first available doctor. For me, it’s always been worth the wait, and going to the first available doc generally has led to wrong diagnoses or more unnecessary testing. You can get lucky (say there was a cancellation), but often you just get the practitioner who nobody else wants b/c they have cruddy bedside manner or are new.

Obv you can’t do this for emergency situations, but having a good PCP who can assist you in those times helps a lot. Your PCP should be just as trusted as your therapist, IMO. They are the conduit to good specialists.

I also favor women doctors. Some of the rudest doctors I’ve been to have been women, but at the same time my favorite doctors have all been women. Men tend to be dismissive of women… talking. I’m fine with men for surgeries and things where they’re just doing the thing (eg removing the polyp), but not for anything that involves listening or explaining.

I’m sure there are wonderful, caring male doctors who are patient and can listen and explain; I just haven’t been to any. It could be me—I’m generally anxious when I go to the doctor, and maybe that anxiousness has led to them dismissing me.


Yeah, ok. But have you tried to find a good PCP in the DMV lately? One you can actually get in to see? My PCP, whom I'd been seeing for years, was running a 6 mo wait for appointments, and her NP was a mess. I finally chose to go concierge, which has worked out really well, but it took me months to find one who is a good fit because most of the good concierge PCPs have long wait lists at this point.

I am a woman and have had serious issues with male doctors being dismissive as well (it almost killed me once), so I look for female physicians as well.


This is reflective of the fact that good doctors cannot give the kind of care they want, for the most part, in non-concierge settings. They need fewer patients, and to make that model work, it's concierge.

I am a doctor who works as a federal employee with an underserved population, and I chose this job for two reasons: 1) security of my own health insurance (have congenital issues that make me a liability in that area), and 2) there isn't the constant pressure from an equity firm to get patients in and out in less than 10 minutes per visit, or the requirement to see over 30 patients a day.

I make less money, and that is fine. I do just fine. But more importantly, the explicit mission is to give good care, and one way or another, I am supported in that.


Your patients are lucky to have a provider who cares. Thank you for that service.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2024 09:47     Subject: I don't trust doctors anymore

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:AI needs to compleley upend PCP.

It is absolutely despicable we have a concierge system. It just means the rich get healthcare while everyone else dies. Do you want a French Revolution? Because this is how you get one.

AI cannot come fast enough to complete replace PCPs altogether. You input your vitals, blood work, and panels of tests and AI can mine the data to determine health issues during a routing checkup. Cannot come fast enough.


Ah yes, viva la revolution. Never again will a Karen perish because a PCP did not spend the time to read the pubmed articles she brought to her appointment about her “condition.”


I hope, someday, you have the opportunity to experience the situation you're so content to mock. Odds are good. Enjoy!
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2024 09:46     Subject: I don't trust doctors anymore

Anonymous wrote:AI needs to compleley upend PCP.

It is absolutely despicable we have a concierge system. It just means the rich get healthcare while everyone else dies. Do you want a French Revolution? Because this is how you get one.

AI cannot come fast enough to complete replace PCPs altogether. You input your vitals, blood work, and panels of tests and AI can mine the data to determine health issues during a routing checkup. Cannot come fast enough.


i know people are going to be jerks about this comment, which may have been sarcastic, but there is merit to this approach. The AI can "read" the charts the whitecoats don't, look for med interactions (which doctors currently manually search anyway), pull obscure side effects humans haven't heard of because how could they possibly know all that, update based on current research some MD is gonna patient shame a normal for knowing without a degree...

And then you spend your 8 minutes discussing what the AI spat out with the human who will hopefully be less frazzled and more compassionate.

But MDs need to gatekeep the sacred knowledge of the bodies we all have because we don't trust people to have access to the knowledge/resources they need to do that for themselves (which is to say: there's no money in wellness).
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2024 08:59     Subject: I don't trust doctors anymore

Anonymous wrote:AI needs to compleley upend PCP.

It is absolutely despicable we have a concierge system. It just means the rich get healthcare while everyone else dies. Do you want a French Revolution? Because this is how you get one.

AI cannot come fast enough to complete replace PCPs altogether. You input your vitals, blood work, and panels of tests and AI can mine the data to determine health issues during a routing checkup. Cannot come fast enough.


Ah yes, viva la revolution. Never again will a Karen perish because a PCP did not spend the time to read the pubmed articles she brought to her appointment about her “condition.”
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2024 08:31     Subject: I don't trust doctors anymore

Anonymous wrote:AI needs to compleley upend PCP.

It is absolutely despicable we have a concierge system. It just means the rich get healthcare while everyone else dies. Do you want a French Revolution? Because this is how you get one.

AI cannot come fast enough to complete replace PCPs altogether. You input your vitals, blood work, and panels of tests and AI can mine the data to determine health issues during a routing checkup. Cannot come fast enough.


Poe's law strikes again!
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2024 07:46     Subject: I don't trust doctors anymore

Anonymous wrote:AI needs to compleley upend PCP.

It is absolutely despicable we have a concierge system. It just means the rich get healthcare while everyone else dies. Do you want a French Revolution? Because this is how you get one.

AI cannot come fast enough to complete replace PCPs altogether. You input your vitals, blood work, and panels of tests and AI can mine the data to determine health issues during a routing checkup. Cannot come fast enough.


I hope it gives you the care you need, and you are happy with it.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2024 07:32     Subject: I don't trust doctors anymore

AI needs to compleley upend PCP.

It is absolutely despicable we have a concierge system. It just means the rich get healthcare while everyone else dies. Do you want a French Revolution? Because this is how you get one.

AI cannot come fast enough to complete replace PCPs altogether. You input your vitals, blood work, and panels of tests and AI can mine the data to determine health issues during a routing checkup. Cannot come fast enough.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2024 18:44     Subject: I don't trust doctors anymore

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I do a lot of research when I pick doctors, and my policy is to wait for the doctor I want rather than go to first available doctor. For me, it’s always been worth the wait, and going to the first available doc generally has led to wrong diagnoses or more unnecessary testing. You can get lucky (say there was a cancellation), but often you just get the practitioner who nobody else wants b/c they have cruddy bedside manner or are new.

Obv you can’t do this for emergency situations, but having a good PCP who can assist you in those times helps a lot. Your PCP should be just as trusted as your therapist, IMO. They are the conduit to good specialists.

I also favor women doctors. Some of the rudest doctors I’ve been to have been women, but at the same time my favorite doctors have all been women. Men tend to be dismissive of women… talking. I’m fine with men for surgeries and things where they’re just doing the thing (eg removing the polyp), but not for anything that involves listening or explaining.

I’m sure there are wonderful, caring male doctors who are patient and can listen and explain; I just haven’t been to any. It could be me—I’m generally anxious when I go to the doctor, and maybe that anxiousness has led to them dismissing me.


Yeah, ok. But have you tried to find a good PCP in the DMV lately? One you can actually get in to see? My PCP, whom I'd been seeing for years, was running a 6 mo wait for appointments, and her NP was a mess. I finally chose to go concierge, which has worked out really well, but it took me months to find one who is a good fit because most of the good concierge PCPs have long wait lists at this point.

I am a woman and have had serious issues with male doctors being dismissive as well (it almost killed me once), so I look for female physicians as well.


This is reflective of the fact that good doctors cannot give the kind of care they want, for the most part, in non-concierge settings. They need fewer patients, and to make that model work, it's concierge.

I am a doctor who works as a federal employee with an underserved population, and I chose this job for two reasons: 1) security of my own health insurance (have congenital issues that make me a liability in that area), and 2) there isn't the constant pressure from an equity firm to get patients in and out in less than 10 minutes per visit, or the requirement to see over 30 patients a day.

I make less money, and that is fine. I do just fine. But more importantly, the explicit mission is to give good care, and one way or another, I am supported in that.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2024 16:58     Subject: I don't trust doctors anymore

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I do a lot of research when I pick doctors, and my policy is to wait for the doctor I want rather than go to first available doctor. For me, it’s always been worth the wait, and going to the first available doc generally has led to wrong diagnoses or more unnecessary testing. You can get lucky (say there was a cancellation), but often you just get the practitioner who nobody else wants b/c they have cruddy bedside manner or are new.

Obv you can’t do this for emergency situations, but having a good PCP who can assist you in those times helps a lot. Your PCP should be just as trusted as your therapist, IMO. They are the conduit to good specialists.

I also favor women doctors. Some of the rudest doctors I’ve been to have been women, but at the same time my favorite doctors have all been women. Men tend to be dismissive of women… talking. I’m fine with men for surgeries and things where they’re just doing the thing (eg removing the polyp), but not for anything that involves listening or explaining.

I’m sure there are wonderful, caring male doctors who are patient and can listen and explain; I just haven’t been to any. It could be me—I’m generally anxious when I go to the doctor, and maybe that anxiousness has led to them dismissing me.


Yeah, ok. But have you tried to find a good PCP in the DMV lately? One you can actually get in to see? My PCP, whom I'd been seeing for years, was running a 6 mo wait for appointments, and her NP was a mess. I finally chose to go concierge, which has worked out really well, but it took me months to find one who is a good fit because most of the good concierge PCPs have long wait lists at this point.

I am a woman and have had serious issues with male doctors being dismissive as well (it almost killed me once), so I look for female physicians as well.


This is a good point. I had pretty terrible medical care when I was in DC. I am no longer living there, so my advice might not hold up in places like DC.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2024 16:54     Subject: I don't trust doctors anymore

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I do a lot of research when I pick doctors, and my policy is to wait for the doctor I want rather than go to first available doctor. For me, it’s always been worth the wait, and going to the first available doc generally has led to wrong diagnoses or more unnecessary testing. You can get lucky (say there was a cancellation), but often you just get the practitioner who nobody else wants b/c they have cruddy bedside manner or are new.

Obv you can’t do this for emergency situations, but having a good PCP who can assist you in those times helps a lot. Your PCP should be just as trusted as your therapist, IMO. They are the conduit to good specialists.

I also favor women doctors. Some of the rudest doctors I’ve been to have been women, but at the same time my favorite doctors have all been women. Men tend to be dismissive of women… talking. I’m fine with men for surgeries and things where they’re just doing the thing (eg removing the polyp), but not for anything that involves listening or explaining.

I’m sure there are wonderful, caring male doctors who are patient and can listen and explain; I just haven’t been to any. It could be me—I’m generally anxious when I go to the doctor, and maybe that anxiousness has led to them dismissing me.


Yeah, ok. But have you tried to find a good PCP in the DMV lately? One you can actually get in to see? My PCP, whom I'd been seeing for years, was running a 6 mo wait for appointments, and her NP was a mess. I finally chose to go concierge, which has worked out really well, but it took me months to find one who is a good fit because most of the good concierge PCPs have long wait lists at this point.

I am a woman and have had serious issues with male doctors being dismissive as well (it almost killed me once), so I look for female physicians as well.


I go to a small group practice. For a sick visit, I can always get in with a day or two. Sure, annual physicals can be a 3-4 month wait, but that isn't a big problem for me. And he's not concierge-- I'd never do that.

I think it's odd people are complaining about male doctors. With one exception-- a specialist that was called in during an emergency that wasn't qualified for the procedure he was asked to to-- every doctor I've had a problem with has been a female. Though, I think that had more to do with the demographics of the subspecialty area being highly skewed to women.


I think some of the man/woman doctor thing may be personality/communication style. My husband prefers male doctors—and so he must not be having the same experiences I’m having with male doctors. I really appreciate someone who will take time to explain things to me. I have a male veterinarian who is like this, but my experience with men is that they tend to offer a lot less information and I have to ask a lot more questions. They just aren’t as verbal. And because I hate being at the doctor I don’t want to sit there pulling teeth so I’ll kind of slink off not understanding what is wrong.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2024 14:08     Subject: I don't trust doctors anymore

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I do a lot of research when I pick doctors, and my policy is to wait for the doctor I want rather than go to first available doctor. For me, it’s always been worth the wait, and going to the first available doc generally has led to wrong diagnoses or more unnecessary testing. You can get lucky (say there was a cancellation), but often you just get the practitioner who nobody else wants b/c they have cruddy bedside manner or are new.

Obv you can’t do this for emergency situations, but having a good PCP who can assist you in those times helps a lot. Your PCP should be just as trusted as your therapist, IMO. They are the conduit to good specialists.

I also favor women doctors. Some of the rudest doctors I’ve been to have been women, but at the same time my favorite doctors have all been women. Men tend to be dismissive of women… talking. I’m fine with men for surgeries and things where they’re just doing the thing (eg removing the polyp), but not for anything that involves listening or explaining.

I’m sure there are wonderful, caring male doctors who are patient and can listen and explain; I just haven’t been to any. It could be me—I’m generally anxious when I go to the doctor, and maybe that anxiousness has led to them dismissing me.


Yeah, ok. But have you tried to find a good PCP in the DMV lately? One you can actually get in to see? My PCP, whom I'd been seeing for years, was running a 6 mo wait for appointments, and her NP was a mess. I finally chose to go concierge, which has worked out really well, but it took me months to find one who is a good fit because most of the good concierge PCPs have long wait lists at this point.

I am a woman and have had serious issues with male doctors being dismissive as well (it almost killed me once), so I look for female physicians as well.


I go to a small group practice. For a sick visit, I can always get in with a day or two. Sure, annual physicals can be a 3-4 month wait, but that isn't a big problem for me. And he's not concierge-- I'd never do that.

I think it's odd people are complaining about male doctors. With one exception-- a specialist that was called in during an emergency that wasn't qualified for the procedure he was asked to to-- every doctor I've had a problem with has been a female. Though, I think that had more to do with the demographics of the subspecialty area being highly skewed to women.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2024 13:52     Subject: I don't trust doctors anymore

Anonymous wrote:I do a lot of research when I pick doctors, and my policy is to wait for the doctor I want rather than go to first available doctor. For me, it’s always been worth the wait, and going to the first available doc generally has led to wrong diagnoses or more unnecessary testing. You can get lucky (say there was a cancellation), but often you just get the practitioner who nobody else wants b/c they have cruddy bedside manner or are new.

Obv you can’t do this for emergency situations, but having a good PCP who can assist you in those times helps a lot. Your PCP should be just as trusted as your therapist, IMO. They are the conduit to good specialists.

I also favor women doctors. Some of the rudest doctors I’ve been to have been women, but at the same time my favorite doctors have all been women. Men tend to be dismissive of women… talking. I’m fine with men for surgeries and things where they’re just doing the thing (eg removing the polyp), but not for anything that involves listening or explaining.

I’m sure there are wonderful, caring male doctors who are patient and can listen and explain; I just haven’t been to any. It could be me—I’m generally anxious when I go to the doctor, and maybe that anxiousness has led to them dismissing me.


Yeah, ok. But have you tried to find a good PCP in the DMV lately? One you can actually get in to see? My PCP, whom I'd been seeing for years, was running a 6 mo wait for appointments, and her NP was a mess. I finally chose to go concierge, which has worked out really well, but it took me months to find one who is a good fit because most of the good concierge PCPs have long wait lists at this point.

I am a woman and have had serious issues with male doctors being dismissive as well (it almost killed me once), so I look for female physicians as well.