Anonymous
Post 12/19/2023 18:33     Subject: Trump warns that immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country

There's not actually a single coherent, rational, workable and actionable Republican policy in any of this commentary. Whatsoever.

Do better.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2023 18:28     Subject: Trump warns that immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country

It is possible to believe that (a) we need immigration because we have a worker shortage and (b) we need an immigration policy that is much more rational than what we currently have.

I also believe that the major impediment to rational immigration reform is not the Democrats but rather the Republicans, who have decided that winning elections by politicizing the issue is vastly preferable to doing the hard work of compromise and negotiation necessary to fix it. Complaining about immigration is a winning issue for Republicans. It is not a winning issue for Democrats. George W. Bush wanted immigration reform to be a legislative achievement of his administration and he was thwarted by his own party. Ever since Newt Gingrich, the Republicans in Congress have played zero sum politics instead of actually reaching across the aisle and actually achieving political compromise. Yes, the Dems have their crazies but the Republican party is fundamentally broken.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2023 17:36     Subject: Trump warns that immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So what would you do with them? They are human beings.


Send them back from where they came - Mexico. We are not obligated to take the people Mexico lets pass through.


Just imagine if someone had said that about your family when they showed up at the banks of the shores of the US from their ****hole country.


Mine went through Ellis Island and were vetting for fitness, diseases etc. They could (and should have) been turned away if they were seen as not being an asset to the US.
That is how it should be, not this "if you scramble over the border you are in!" bu11shit happening under Biden.

That’s a nice story you tell yourself how your immigrant ancestors were so legal and so perfect, but it’s just that: a story. If your ancestors were White, there pretty much wasn’t illegal immigration.


Yes, because it was an ISLAND. It was CONTROLLED. You weren't getting off that island UNTIL you were vetted. Is this rocket science?

Stop with the ideological BS. You're gaming the system to our long term detriment, and it's pissing everyone off.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2023 17:33     Subject: Trump warns that immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So what would you do with them? They are human beings.


Send them back from where they came - Mexico. We are not obligated to take the people Mexico lets pass through.


Just imagine if someone had said that about your family when they showed up at the banks of the shores of the US from their ****hole country.



Uhhh, my mother DID show up here, from Germany, in 1962.

She had to be sponsored by a family already here. She had to have money in her pocket. She had to have medical checks. That's all BEFORE she came here.

She also went to England for a year and a half as an au pair to learn English. Until the early 1980's, she had to show up to the post office once a year and fill out a card on where she was living, with who, and other pertinent information.

It's was CONTROLLED immigration.


Be lucky that by 1962, Americans were smart enough not to suggest that the blood of German immigrants was tainted and would destroy the USA.

Why is this hard to embrace? You are basically saying that you and your found your fortune and now want to deny it to others.

And yes, illegal immigration is bad and its a problem, but the way to solve it is not with walls (Donald spent billions on part of a wall that did nothing) but rather with reform to prosecute the asylum cases and otherwise deal with the border issues in a 21st century manner. But xenophobia is never a good look, particularly from people who came from immigrants themselves.


First of all, the wall DID work. It absolutely did work. It in and of itself is not the only thing you need to control the border. So stop the lying one-liners.

Biden took immediate action to welcome mass poverty into the country. The change was overnight. You tell me HOW immigrants are so well dressed with practically new shoes when they cross the border. They aren't even TRYING to hide it.

He's turned C&BP into baby sitters. His administration has attacked law enforcement; falsifying public statements about how the border patrol is horse whipping immigrants. Absolutely disgusting lies.

There's zero control today - it's a free-for-all and plenty of democrat mayors are saying they can't handle the overload. Did you not get the memo?

We get it - you want to "brown the population" to get maximum votes. Just don't lie and tell us you have other reasons for mass importing poverty.

FYI - this is a losing issue for you. Better think about that. Hard.

This is not xenophobia. I know that's the safe zone you retreat to when you can't argue the merits, but ENOUGH.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2023 17:22     Subject: Trump warns that immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So what would you do with them? They are human beings.


Send them back from where they came - Mexico. We are not obligated to take the people Mexico lets pass through.


Just imagine if someone had said that about your family when they showed up at the banks of the shores of the US from their ****hole country.


Mine went through Ellis Island and were vetting for fitness, diseases etc. They could (and should have) been turned away if they were seen as not being an asset to the US.
That is how it should be, not this "if you scramble over the border you are in!" bu11shit happening under Biden.

That’s a nice story you tell yourself how your immigrant ancestors were so legal and so perfect, but it’s just that: a story. If your ancestors were White, there pretty much wasn’t illegal immigration.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2023 17:11     Subject: Trump warns that immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So what would you do with them? They are human beings.


Send them back from where they came - Mexico. We are not obligated to take the people Mexico lets pass through.


Just imagine if someone had said that about your family when they showed up at the banks of the shores of the US from their ****hole country.



Uhhh, my mother DID show up here, from Germany, in 1962.

She had to be sponsored by a family already here. She had to have money in her pocket. She had to have medical checks. That's all BEFORE she came here.

She also went to England for a year and a half as an au pair to learn English. Until the early 1980's, she had to show up to the post office once a year and fill out a card on where she was living, with who, and other pertinent information.

It's was CONTROLLED immigration.


Be lucky that by 1962, Americans were smart enough not to suggest that the blood of German immigrants was tainted and would destroy the USA.

Why is this hard to embrace? You are basically saying that you and your found your fortune and now want to deny it to others.

And yes, illegal immigration is bad and its a problem, but the way to solve it is not with walls (Donald spent billions on part of a wall that did nothing) but rather with reform to prosecute the asylum cases and otherwise deal with the border issues in a 21st century manner. But xenophobia is never a good look, particularly from people who came from immigrants themselves.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2023 17:08     Subject: Trump warns that immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So what would you do with them? They are human beings.


Send them back from where they came - Mexico. We are not obligated to take the people Mexico lets pass through.


Just imagine if someone had said that about your family when they showed up at the banks of the shores of the US from their ****hole country.


Mine went through Ellis Island and were vetting for fitness, diseases etc. They could (and should have) been turned away if they were seen as not being an asset to the US.
That is how it should be, not this "if you scramble over the border you are in!" bu11shit happening under Biden.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2023 16:58     Subject: Trump warns that immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So what would you do with them? They are human beings.


Send them back from where they came - Mexico. We are not obligated to take the people Mexico lets pass through.


Just imagine if someone had said that about your family when they showed up at the banks of the shores of the US from their ****hole country.



Uhhh, my mother DID show up here, from Germany, in 1962.

She had to be sponsored by a family already here. She had to have money in her pocket. She had to have medical checks. That's all BEFORE she came here.

She also went to England for a year and a half as an au pair to learn English. Until the early 1980's, she had to show up to the post office once a year and fill out a card on where she was living, with who, and other pertinent information.

It's was CONTROLLED immigration.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2023 16:53     Subject: Trump warns that immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So what would you do with them? They are human beings.


Send them back from where they came - Mexico. We are not obligated to take the people Mexico lets pass through.


Just imagine if someone had said that about your family when they showed up at the banks of the shores of the US from their ****hole country.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2023 16:50     Subject: Trump warns that immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country

Trump's statements make me want to vote for him even more.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2023 16:37     Subject: Trump warns that immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So what would you do with them? They are human beings.


Send them back from where they came - Mexico. We are not obligated to take the people Mexico lets pass through.


let me guess. you're pro-life.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2023 15:51     Subject: Trump warns that immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country

Anonymous wrote:So what would you do with them? They are human beings.


Send them back from where they came - Mexico. We are not obligated to take the people Mexico lets pass through.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2023 14:06     Subject: Trump warns that immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hate Trump and think he is racist as f*ck but to be fair he said ILLEGAL immigrants not immigrants.


How do ILLEGAL immigrants poison the blood as opposed to legal immigrants?


Legal immigrants are vetted and you know who is coming into the country. Illegal immigrants are not vetted and could be criminals, terrorists, etc.

This is a quote from the other time Trump used the word “poison”:

"Nobody has any idea where these people are coming from," Trump said of migrants crossing the southern border in a September interview with The National Pulse, a right-wing website. "And we know they come from prisons. We know they come from mental institutions and centers, islands we know they're terrorists. Nobody has ever seen anything like we're witnessing right now. It is a very sad thing for our country. It's poisoning the blood of our country. It's so bad and people are coming in with disease, people are coming in with — with every possible thing that you can have."


So I think he’s talking about diseases and criminals poisoning the blood of the country. I don’t think he’s talking about race mixing like Hitler did in Mein Kampf.


Keep on believing that.


If Trump is another Hitler, wouldn’t he have disowned his daughter for marrying a Jew?


You guys are so f-ing literal. It’s impossible to have a discussion with you.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2023 13:43     Subject: Trump warns that immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They will always vote democrat for free sh!t. You leftists have opened America’s a$$ wide open for the world to gangrape the taxpayers financially.


Again, people who are here illegally do not "get free sh!t" - they work for cash and stay in the shadows and do not put themselves "into the system"


Oh yes they do. If a pregnant woman shows up at a hospital to give birth, she is treated and she and the newborn U.S. citizen will be given housing and further benefits. If a person shows up at a hospital with an injury from a "shadows" workplace they are treated. If if they can claim disability from that injury, they will get a lawyer and will be able to get benefits.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2023 13:41     Subject: Trump warns that immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They will always vote democrat for free sh!t. You leftists have opened America’s a$$ wide open for the world to gangrape the taxpayers financially.


Again, people who are here illegally do not "get free sh!t" - they work for cash and stay in the shadows and do not put themselves "into the system"


No that’s how it used to be. Now they realize you can game the system. So many have kids born here so they are US citizens and get benefits for them. In some states they get free health care even if you are illegal.

And the current wave of immigrants are not illegal. The vast majority are applying for asylum so they don’t stay in the shadows because they don’t need to. They are clamoring fir resources and help. Look at New York City and Chicago.

Biden repealed Trumps public charge rules that he was enforcing. You aren’t supposed to be able to immigrate if you are going to be a public charge and cost the US money. The sponsor is supposed to pay.

Enacted in 2019, Trump’s public charge rule imposed stricter financial requirements on would-be immigrants to the U.S. The rule directed federal immigration authorities to decline green cards and visas to applicants who were likely to become reliant on public aid — and expanded the universe of immigrants who fell into that category.

The US is one of the very few countries that allows a citizen’s elderly poor parents to immigrate because it will end up costing the US so much money. Instead parents get priority over siblings who could add to the economy.


I wasn't referring to the kids. Please re-read what I wrote.

And if you are going to complain about chain migration, let's start with Melania's parents.

She came here illegally, used false information, snagged a husband, had an anchor baby and then chain migrated her parents.

Yet we don't hear people complaining about her.