Anonymous wrote:I know two of the ACHS kids that got in. Both applied as URM and both are lying. One of them is also just a massive POS as a person as is their mother.

The admissions officers reviewing the applications cannot tell whether an applicant is URM, unless the applicant writes about it in his/her essay. UVA Admissions has disabled the common app field that asks for this information, meaning the response is not shown to UVA. Dean J said so recently in one of her Thursday IG Q&As.

Anonymous wrote:I know two of the ACHS kids that got in. Both applied as URM and both are lying. One of them is also just a massive POS as a person as is their mother.

I know two of the ACHS kids that got in. Both applied as URM and both are lying. One of them is also just a massive POS as a person as is their mother.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid was rejected last year - top 10% of class, 34, national awards, club president, varsity captain, 13AP mostly 5’s. We applied for FA. Kid got in an elite school in RD with very generous aid. So, it could be a good thing to be rejected or deferred by UVA. Good luck!

In or out of state?

DP here. I know top VA students who have been rejected, similar stats. Some posters insist UVA does not yield protect, but in all my years, I have seen differently. If UVA thinks you will pick a "higher" school, they will not admit you. Also, schools are not supposed to communicate with each other about whom they choose, but there is some degree of understanding, such that other schools accept in lieu of. Again, this is not supposed to happen, but I have seen it.

Do college applications still ask students to list where else applying? I remember having to do this and was asked in all interviews too. I had guessed schools no longer asked this.

They do!

Well done, you are starting to see the big picture!

If you apply ED to UVA you have to attend if accepted. Yield protection isn’t even a possibility. Save your “yield protection” justifications for the EA round.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid was rejected last year - top 10% of class, 34, national awards, club president, varsity captain, 13AP mostly 5’s. We applied for FA. Kid got in an elite school in RD with very generous aid. So, it could be a good thing to be rejected or deferred by UVA. Good luck!

In or out of state?

DP here. I know top VA students who have been rejected, similar stats. Some posters insist UVA does not yield protect, but in all my years, I have seen differently. If UVA thinks you will pick a "higher" school, they will not admit you. Also, schools are not supposed to communicate with each other about whom they choose, but there is some degree of understanding, such that other schools accept in lieu of. Again, this is not supposed to happen, but I have seen it.

Do college applications still ask students to list where else applying? I remember having to do this and was asked in all interviews too. I had guessed schools no longer asked this.

I’ve had 4 kids apply to college over the past 9 years for a total of approximately 40 colleges/universities applied to. Not a single one asked where else are you applying to.

Some colleges keep track of an applicant’s demonstrated interest as a way to make offers to students who appear more likely to attend and try to protect yield that way. Those tend to be the SLACs with a smaller applicant pool. UVA does not keep track of demonstrated interest.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. 11 pages and almost nothing that pertains to the 2023 UVA ED decisions. I wonder what that means...

This thread is annoying. A new one will have to be started. Did no one get it??? I am looking to see stats/rigor/EC. I have a OOS junior so following closely.

Go to college confidential. DCUM won't provide much

From Dean J:

WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 21, 2007

Yield Protection
Years ago, when I was just a wee student worker in an admission office far, far away, an admission officer showed me an article in the Wall Street Journal about a new practice that was growing in popularity. Interestingly, when I looked the article up this morning, I found that it was written by none other than Dan Golden, the author of The Price of Admission. Anyway, that's not the point...

The article was about the practice that is sometimes referred to as "yield protection". Schools that use this "strategy" often waitlist top applicants under the assumption that those students are using the school as a safety and will opt to go elsewhere when they make their final decision. This has become common enough that outside consulting groups offer to give admission officers some sort of predictive rating for each applicant (don't ask me the details of that process...I don't know much beyond the fact that it exists).

Here and there, I'm asked about this practice and whether it's used at UVa. We do not practice yield protection at all. The applicant pool here is so broad that it'd be hard to compile a profile for a student who wouldn't enroll. I think the practice might be more popular at smaller schools.

Her bolding. Not mine.

So she’s lying, I guess?

Please.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread has been taken over by crazed conspiracy theorists. UVA is on the record that it does not yield protect and nothing suggests that they’re lying. The school routinely offers admission to top students who - especially in state - routinely turn down offers from top privates for financial and other reasons. They’re not rejecting your kids because they think they’re too good for their school. Get a grip.

Exactly.

Not exactly. You do not understand much about admissions. If they accept a student who will likely attend elsewhere, that is a slot they could have given to someone who is more excited about uva. Uva is not everyone’s ride or die. You may find that hard to believe!

Cite?

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Anonymous wrote:My kid was rejected last year - top 10% of class, 34, national awards, club president, varsity captain, 13AP mostly 5’s. We applied for FA. Kid got in an elite school in RD with very generous aid. So, it could be a good thing to be rejected or deferred by UVA. Good luck!

In or out of state?

DP here. I know top VA students who have been rejected, similar stats. Some posters insist UVA does not yield protect, but in all my years, I have seen differently. If UVA thinks you will pick a "higher" school, they will not admit you. Also, schools are not supposed to communicate with each other about whom they choose, but there is some degree of understanding, such that other schools accept in lieu of. Again, this is not supposed to happen, but I have seen it.

Do college applications still ask students to list where else applying? I remember having to do this and was asked in all interviews too. I had guessed schools no longer asked this.

They do!

Well done, you are starting to see the big picture!

Name a college that has this on their application this year.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread has been taken over by crazed conspiracy theorists. UVA is on the record that it does not yield protect and nothing suggests that they’re lying. The school routinely offers admission to top students who - especially in state - routinely turn down offers from top privates for financial and other reasons. They’re not rejecting your kids because they think they’re too good for their school. Get a grip.

Exactly.

Not exactly. You do not understand much about admissions. If they accept a student who will likely attend elsewhere, that is a slot they could have given to someone who is more excited about uva. Uva is not everyone’s ride or die. You may find that hard to believe!

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Anonymous wrote:My kid was rejected last year - top 10% of class, 34, national awards, club president, varsity captain, 13AP mostly 5’s. We applied for FA. Kid got in an elite school in RD with very generous aid. So, it could be a good thing to be rejected or deferred by UVA. Good luck!

In or out of state?

DP here. I know top VA students who have been rejected, similar stats. Some posters insist UVA does not yield protect, but in all my years, I have seen differently. If UVA thinks you will pick a "higher" school, they will not admit you. Also, schools are not supposed to communicate with each other about whom they choose, but there is some degree of understanding, such that other schools accept in lieu of. Again, this is not supposed to happen, but I have seen it.

Do college applications still ask students to list where else applying? I remember having to do this and was asked in all interviews too. I had guessed schools no longer asked this.

They do!

Well done, you are starting to see the big picture!

Anonymous wrote:This thread has been taken over by crazed conspiracy theorists. UVA is on the record that it does not yield protect and nothing suggests that they’re lying. The school routinely offers admission to top students who - especially in state - routinely turn down offers from top privates for financial and other reasons. They’re not rejecting your kids because they think they’re too good for their school. Get a grip.

Exactly.

This thread has been taken over by crazed conspiracy theorists. UVA is on the record that it does not yield protect and nothing suggests that they’re lying. The school routinely offers admission to top students who - especially in state - routinely turn down offers from top privates for financial and other reasons. They’re not rejecting your kids because they think they’re too good for their school. Get a grip.

Anonymous wrote:Wow. 11 pages and almost nothing that pertains to the 2023 UVA ED decisions. I wonder what that means...

This thread is annoying. A new one will have to be started. Did no one get it??? I am looking to see stats/rigor/EC. I have a OOS junior so following closely.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid was rejected last year - top 10% of class, 34, national awards, club president, varsity captain, 13AP mostly 5’s. We applied for FA. Kid got in an elite school in RD with very generous aid. So, it could be a good thing to be rejected or deferred by UVA. Good luck!

In or out of state?

DP here. I know top VA students who have been rejected, similar stats. Some posters insist UVA does not yield protect, but in all my years, I have seen differently. If UVA thinks you will pick a "higher" school, they will not admit you. Also, schools are not supposed to communicate with each other about whom they choose, but there is some degree of understanding, such that other schools accept in lieu of. Again, this is not supposed to happen, but I have seen it.

Do college applications still ask students to list where else applying? I remember having to do this and was asked in all interviews too. I had guessed schools no longer asked this.