Anonymous
Post 11/25/2023 13:54     Subject: Should DC submit 1500 score to Duke?

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Anonymous wrote:my kid did Khan too (and only Khan), got 1530 and was one and done. I dont know why preparing for a test and then doing well on a test is any different than preparing for your classes and doing well in your classes.

yes, like every other test you take, you can prep for it. but Khan has flattened the world of test taking - along with books available at every library - and not using any of these tools at all tells me more about a serious student than using them.


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I don't want to upset you, but here's the truth. If instead of doing Khan and taking the test once, you had done what lots of umc+ parents do on here-- and spent more than 5k on private tutoring and coaching for 6 months or longer and took the test three or four times to superscore-- your kid would be closer to a 1600. That's the crazed arms race-- and the privilege-- that many parents on here are looking to preserve.


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Less than 5,000 (out of 2.5M+) get a 1600 or 36 on the first and only attempt.

But nice try ... I'm sure somebody will fall for it.


Of course you won’t fall for it. Because you like reading comprehension. Read the bold text above. PP said super score. No one said anything about “first and only attempt” related to 1600.


And colleges see that, too! They know when it's one and done, in nearly all cases.

I think super scoring and/or multiple admins. are just as weak as pretending you have a legitimate reason for being against tests (other than the obvious fact that you kid can't perform).

I didn't overlook what was said - I speed bumped it because it doesn't matter. The college AOs already know, and most rank over one and done's over the applicants who need repeat administrations to Frankenstein their score.


Most elite schools are using scores to screen people. That is all. If their screen number is 33 then a 33 or a 36 is the same. Most never look again at scores. And your 33 can be superscored and they do not care. It is almost all school, grades, ECs, and essays. No one is comparing a 34 to a 36. Same score for most elites.



All false. Many institutions even link merit money to a 35 or 36. Schools want those scores to apply to usnwr and to brag about.


PP here. All correct but you are right to add that when looking at money it does matter. But the scores are not picked up until looking at money.
Anonymous
Post 11/25/2023 13:52     Subject: Re:Should DC submit 1500 score to Duke?

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The college AOs already know, and most rank over one and done's over the applicants who need repeat administrations to Frankenstein their score.


Nah you don't get any brownie points for taking the SAT only once compared to someone who took it six times, sorry.


+100 They just want the highest score possible for their average. The schools really don’t care how many times you took it. One exception- Georgetown.


If you think “holistic review” just boils down to the highest GPA and the highest standardized test scores they can submit to USNWR, allowing for hooks, why don’t they slash funding for the admissions process and just run a query for those two data points and drop the pretense that essays matter, that ECs matter, etc.?

For my $$$, there’s a significant difference between a one-and-done composite 1600/36 and a 1600/36 that’s been cobbled together across either multiple administrations or the super scoring process. Hard to believe that schools can justify “do-overs” on the standardized test side, but then look at the GPA side as any kind of rigid indicator of preparedness.


The score is looking at your potential. That is why they are ok with the superscore. Not your one time potential but your real potential. Stupid does not get smart. Dumb kid with unlimited prep unlikely to ever get 36 ever superscored over 20 times. Really smart kid -- same. They are looking at potential. If you 36 each section three times that is the same as a one and done.
Anonymous
Post 11/25/2023 13:50     Subject: Re:Should DC submit 1500 score to Duke?

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The college AOs already know, and most rank over one and done's over the applicants who need repeat administrations to Frankenstein their score.


Nah you don't get any brownie points for taking the SAT only once compared to someone who took it six times, sorry.


Again, for the seemingly the millionth time. You only feel that way because your kid Frankenstein’d their way to a 1540 or a 34 or whatever.

Your feelings don’t matter. Neither do mine. But you’re kidding yourself if you think the AOs are not aware of the chicanery with re-tests and super scoring, etc.


They do not look at scores once you are past a threshold. They do not care how many times it took to get you past that threshold.
Anonymous
Post 11/25/2023 13:43     Subject: Re:Should DC submit 1500 score to Duke?

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The college AOs already know, and most rank over one and done's over the applicants who need repeat administrations to Frankenstein their score.


Nah you don't get any brownie points for taking the SAT only once compared to someone who took it six times, sorry.


+100 They just want the highest score possible for their average. The schools really don’t care how many times you took it. One exception- Georgetown.


If you think “holistic review” just boils down to the highest GPA and the highest standardized test scores they can submit to USNWR, allowing for hooks, why don’t they slash funding for the admissions process and just run a query for those two data points and drop the pretense that essays matter, that ECs matter, etc.?

For my $$$, there’s a significant difference between a one-and-done composite 1600/36 and a 1600/36 that’s been cobbled together across either multiple administrations or the super scoring process. Hard to believe that schools can justify “do-overs” on the standardized test side, but then look at the GPA side as any kind of rigid indicator of preparedness.


What is the significance difference? How does that play out in acceptances? Evidence?
Anonymous
Post 11/25/2023 12:58     Subject: Should DC submit 1500 score to Duke?

Everyone has gone crazy.

Of course you submit the 1500. Good luck to your son.
Anonymous
Post 11/25/2023 12:54     Subject: Re:Should DC submit 1500 score to Duke?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The college AOs already know, and most rank over one and done's over the applicants who need repeat administrations to Frankenstein their score.


Nah you don't get any brownie points for taking the SAT only once compared to someone who took it six times, sorry.


+100 They just want the highest score possible for their average. The schools really don’t care how many times you took it. One exception- Georgetown.


+1
Anonymous
Post 11/25/2023 12:53     Subject: Re:Should DC submit 1500 score to Duke?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The college AOs already know, and most rank over one and done's over the applicants who need repeat administrations to Frankenstein their score.


Nah you don't get any brownie points for taking the SAT only once compared to someone who took it six times, sorry.


+100 They just want the highest score possible for their average. The schools really don’t care how many times you took it. One exception- Georgetown.


If you think “holistic review” just boils down to the highest GPA and the highest standardized test scores they can submit to USNWR, allowing for hooks, why don’t they slash funding for the admissions process and just run a query for those two data points and drop the pretense that essays matter, that ECs matter, etc.?

For my $$$, there’s a significant difference between a one-and-done composite 1600/36 and a 1600/36 that’s been cobbled together across either multiple administrations or the super scoring process. Hard to believe that schools can justify “do-overs” on the standardized test side, but then look at the GPA side as any kind of rigid indicator of preparedness.
Anonymous
Post 11/25/2023 09:25     Subject: Re:Should DC submit 1500 score to Duke?

Anonymous wrote:
The college AOs already know, and most rank over one and done's over the applicants who need repeat administrations to Frankenstein their score.


Nah you don't get any brownie points for taking the SAT only once compared to someone who took it six times, sorry.


+100 They just want the highest score possible for their average. The schools really don’t care how many times you took it. One exception- Georgetown.
Anonymous
Post 11/25/2023 09:18     Subject: Re:Should DC submit 1500 score to Duke?

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The college AOs already know, and most rank over one and done's over the applicants who need repeat administrations to Frankenstein their score.


Nah you don't get any brownie points for taking the SAT only once compared to someone who took it six times, sorry.


Again, for the seemingly the millionth time. You only feel that way because your kid Frankenstein’d their way to a 1540 or a 34 or whatever.

Your feelings don’t matter. Neither do mine. But you’re kidding yourself if you think the AOs are not aware of the chicanery with re-tests and super scoring, etc.



Do you realize that literally every selective college in the country superscores the SAT? It's standard practice.

Like, stop using the word literally. Georgetown?
Anonymous
Post 11/25/2023 08:41     Subject: Should DC submit 1500 score to Duke?

What a sad sad state of affairs when a kid thinks he can’t submit a 1500. Doesn’t Duke look at more than sat scores in its admissions process?
Anonymous
Post 11/25/2023 08:38     Subject: Should DC submit 1500 score to Duke?

Anonymous wrote:Some schools don’t superscore-Wisconsin and Stanford, for example. So, you can assume those AO’s care.


Stanford super scores the SAT. Google is your friend.
Anonymous
Post 11/25/2023 06:59     Subject: Should DC submit 1500 score to Duke?

Some schools don’t superscore-Wisconsin and Stanford, for example. So, you can assume those AO’s care.
Anonymous
Post 11/25/2023 01:23     Subject: Re:Should DC submit 1500 score to Duke?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The college AOs already know, and most rank over one and done's over the applicants who need repeat administrations to Frankenstein their score.


Nah you don't get any brownie points for taking the SAT only once compared to someone who took it six times, sorry.


Again, for the seemingly the millionth time. You only feel that way because your kid Frankenstein’d their way to a 1540 or a 34 or whatever.

Your feelings don’t matter. Neither do mine. But you’re kidding yourself if you think the AOs are not aware of the chicanery with re-tests and super scoring, etc.


You’re kidding yourself if you think they care.
Anonymous
Post 11/25/2023 00:50     Subject: Re:Should DC submit 1500 score to Duke?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The college AOs already know, and most rank over one and done's over the applicants who need repeat administrations to Frankenstein their score.


Nah you don't get any brownie points for taking the SAT only once compared to someone who took it six times, sorry.


Again, for the seemingly the millionth time. You only feel that way because your kid Frankenstein’d their way to a 1540 or a 34 or whatever.

Your feelings don’t matter. Neither do mine. But you’re kidding yourself if you think the AOs are not aware of the chicanery with re-tests and super scoring, etc.



Do you realize that literally every selective college in the country superscores the SAT? It's standard practice.
Anonymous
Post 11/25/2023 00:32     Subject: Re:Should DC submit 1500 score to Duke?

Anonymous wrote:
The college AOs already know, and most rank over one and done's over the applicants who need repeat administrations to Frankenstein their score.


Nah you don't get any brownie points for taking the SAT only once compared to someone who took it six times, sorry.


Again, for the seemingly the millionth time. You only feel that way because your kid Frankenstein’d their way to a 1540 or a 34 or whatever.

Your feelings don’t matter. Neither do mine. But you’re kidding yourself if you think the AOs are not aware of the chicanery with re-tests and super scoring, etc.