Anonymous
11/10/2023 15:27
Subject: As a woman what have you learned about men?
I have learned that I am a “pick me girl” and that I love men. I like how they listen to me, how they make me laugh and help my social anxiety. I like joking around with them and not worrying if I said something wrong because they just don’t care.
I have also learned that I will never get too close to any man except my partner or everyone will be unhappy. It was one of the best lessons I learned as a teenager.
Every man is different and I married an emotionally strong and open man. I appreciate that in him. I don’t plan on leaving him any time soon.
I have also learned that I will never get too close to any man except my partner or everyone will be unhappy. It was one of the best lessons I learned as a teenager.
Every man is different and I married an emotionally strong and open man. I appreciate that in him. I don’t plan on leaving him any time soon.
Anonymous
11/10/2023 13:33
Subject: As a woman what have you learned about men?
Can you imagine the uproar if this thread was about race or ethnic background, etc.?
Most of these posts are misandrist, but they are curiously allowed.
Most of these posts are misandrist, but they are curiously allowed.
Anonymous
11/10/2023 13:30
Subject: As a woman what have you learned about men?
Anonymous wrote:They think they are entitled to regular sex from their wives, without having to put in any effort. If they don’t get it, they cheat and justify it.
How dare a man expect regular sex from his wife with no hoops to jump through or quid pro quo. Doesn't he know that sex is completely transactional and women only have sex in order to get something else in return?
Anonymous
11/10/2023 13:25
Subject: As a woman what have you learned about men?
Anonymous wrote:The claim that 60% of men cheat is absolutely asinine.
Not a single male friend of mine since 8 has cheated on their spouse.
I agree that the 60% number is way high. But if one of your friends has cheated and hasn't told their spouse, why would they tell you?
Anonymous
11/10/2023 13:22
Subject: As a woman what have you learned about men?
The claim that 60% of men cheat is absolutely asinine.
Not a single male friend of mine since 8 has cheated on their spouse.
Not a single male friend of mine since 8 has cheated on their spouse.
Anonymous
11/10/2023 12:46
Subject: As a woman what have you learned about men?
They think they are entitled to regular sex from their wives, without having to put in any effort. If they don’t get it, they cheat and justify it.
Anonymous
11/09/2023 13:36
Subject: As a woman what have you learned about men?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No man truly wants or expects to carry household responsibilities 50/50.
For many of them, that's because they expect to carry more than 50% of some of the non-household responsibilities.
Such as?
Sex, paid labor, yard work, exterior repairs, killing bugs, managing finances, fighting wolves should any materialize, carpentry, coaching kids' sports, oil changes, fixing the home WiFi network. I don't know - could be lots of things.
I'm sure plenty of men don't carrying their fair share of the overall burdens faced by a family. But just singling out "household responsibilities" -- which I think lots of people would understand as domestic chores like cooking, cleaning, and child care -- is to put a thumb on the scale.
You forgot opening jars.
But seriously, women also coach sports, change oil, and can connect WiFi. 🧐
They absolutely can and do. But, often enough, not "50/50." Which is why a couple should be looking at division of responsibilities overall and not just confine the discussion to "household responsibilities."
Anonymous
11/09/2023 13:34
Subject: As a woman what have you learned about men?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They are selfish in a way I think most women cannot even fathom, we are socialized so differently. Nothing malicious, but they are very clear in their prioritization of Self.
They are visual and a lot of them are cheaters.
They definitely do not GAF about sexual assault, childhood sexual abuse, sexual harassment, the glass ceiling or any other pernicious plague that affects women and girls disproportionately. See point one.
Women are a lot harder on/more critical of other women’s appearances than men are.
They will do a lot to be with a woman if they want to be with her. There are no mixed signals if a man is into you.
They don’t know how good they have it.
If you didn't have a good father, or perhaps none was present in your life at all, causing you to be permanently embittered against all men, at some point you will have to acknowledge that your mom shared 50% of the responsibility for helping to create that scenario. You can't have it both ways. You had a mother AND a sperm donor. And both are equally responsible. As an adult, you are 100% responsible for your decision to carry a grudge against all men because Daddy didn't live you or maybe wasn't there at all.
Statistically speaking, most do cheat.
How is it ever possible to know this statistic? The best estimates are unreliable but put the number below half, probably below a quarter.
Men will admit it in therapy and in studies and it’s closer to 60% married 80% non married.
“Men in therapy” is an enormous selection bias. The common statistic from unbiased surveys is more like 15-20%.
https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1752-0606.2005.tb01556.x
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886910001674?via%3Dihub
That doesn’t include dating or people who divorce.
Anonymous
11/09/2023 13:22
Subject: Re:As a woman what have you learned about men?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Men are not as holistic-thinking as women. Part nature, part socialization. They will never be responsible for having a body which grows or feeds another life, so they don’t naturally understand how to think for the whole. This can be taught, but it’s important to recognize it doesn’t come naturally.
Men express themselves differently. Joy, anger, sadness may be expressed physically rather than verbally. This may be nature or socialization, the point is that it is this way. So they need sex more to feel good, they need to exercise more to feel good.
Men are much more limited in how they can be. It’s not acceptable to wear dresses, they are still expected to earn and provide, they are supposed to be confident without receiving compliments or attention. For men who fall outside these boxes, life is difficult. Women face a lot of obstacles in life but do have more freedom in how they can present themselves.
What do you mean by holistic? Men put a lot of energy into thinking about decisions in the areas they care about. Just watch them choose a bike.
In corporate environments, men think about the ins and outs of every option while women do the minimum and rush out the door. That’s because more men value advancement at work instead of just viewing it as a paycheck.
Yes, they are less concerned (relative to women) about what they should care about and more centered on what they actually do care about regardless of how it might impact others. Running a household and childcare is most definitely not what most men care about (or care enough to feign interest in).
Anonymous
11/09/2023 12:53
Subject: As a woman what have you learned about men?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As a woman what have you learned about men and relationships? Would love to know your age with your response. My daughter recently asked me for advice about men/dating and it got me curious about the lessons other women might share.
Honestly, I never really considered men to be “people”. I just thought they were different creatures all together that one couldn’t be friends with past puberty. Not sensitive. Not kind. Only out for sex and money. I was in my 30s before I made a good, platonic (like, actually platonic!
Not fwb.) straight, male friend. I was really, truly ignorant!
Yep, you are definitely ignorant!
Anonymous
11/09/2023 12:52
Subject: As a woman what have you learned about men?
Anonymous wrote:I have learned despite what many like to think, men are no more a monolith than women are.
True and stereotyping either gender as a monolith falls under gender discrimination.
Anonymous
11/09/2023 12:44
Subject: As a woman what have you learned about men?
They are not going to read that long text
Anonymous
11/09/2023 12:38
Subject: As a woman what have you learned about men?
Anonymous wrote:As a woman what have you learned about men and relationships? Would love to know your age with your response. My daughter recently asked me for advice about men/dating and it got me curious about the lessons other women might share.
They don't do anything they don't want to do.
If you are confused about where you stand, they are not interested in you.
Anonymous
11/09/2023 11:09
Subject: As a woman what have you learned about men?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They are selfish in a way I think most women cannot even fathom, we are socialized so differently. Nothing malicious, but they are very clear in their prioritization of Self.
They are visual and a lot of them are cheaters.
They definitely do not GAF about sexual assault, childhood sexual abuse, sexual harassment, the glass ceiling or any other pernicious plague that affects women and girls disproportionately. See point one.
Women are a lot harder on/more critical of other women’s appearances than men are.
They will do a lot to be with a woman if they want to be with her. There are no mixed signals if a man is into you.
They don’t know how good they have it.
If you didn't have a good father, or perhaps none was present in your life at all, causing you to be permanently embittered against all men, at some point you will have to acknowledge that your mom shared 50% of the responsibility for helping to create that scenario. You can't have it both ways. You had a mother AND a sperm donor. And both are equally responsible. As an adult, you are 100% responsible for your decision to carry a grudge against all men because Daddy didn't live you or maybe wasn't there at all.
Statistically speaking, most do cheat.
How is it ever possible to know this statistic? The best estimates are unreliable but put the number below half, probably below a quarter.
Men will admit it in therapy and in studies and it’s closer to 60% married 80% non married.
“Men in therapy” is an enormous selection bias. The common statistic from unbiased surveys is more like 15-20%.
https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1752-0606.2005.tb01556.x
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886910001674?via%3Dihub
Anonymous
11/09/2023 10:54
Subject: As a woman what have you learned about men?
I have learned despite what many like to think, men are no more a monolith than women are.