Anonymous
Post 10/31/2023 21:06     Subject: Re:Tenleytown Wawa Fight

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Full court press til' the message gets through ^
Also, does JR have ANY kind of codes or character ed? Seems like such a free for all in there. Kids are good at heart, but adults need ot provide something to aspire to. Maybe current parents could speak to this. Is the sense of service and community and responsibility strong at JR?


What does “kids are good at heart” mean? If you’re being literal, the opposite is true. No one is born “good at heart.” People- kids- must be socialized, which is clearly lacking in this case.


A pillory and stocks in the oval between WF and Wilson, where the troublemakers could be named, shamed and punished, would help.
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2023 06:48     Subject: Re:Tenleytown Wawa Fight

Anonymous wrote:
Part of it might be society, too. A couple of decades back, the metro station manager, the CVS manager, the bus drivers, the whole food security guard, the Wilson SRO - all of them were tough and didn't hesitate to put students in their place if they stepped out of line. Nowadays, no one seems to care.


Sadly people’s have become inured to it. They’re also afraid: that they will be physically attacked, or sued, or called out as “racist” in the social media blogosphere.


Cancel culture has canceled the social fabric?
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2023 06:38     Subject: Re:Tenleytown Wawa Fight

Part of it might be society, too. A couple of decades back, the metro station manager, the CVS manager, the bus drivers, the whole food security guard, the Wilson SRO - all of them were tough and didn't hesitate to put students in their place if they stepped out of line. Nowadays, no one seems to care.


Sadly people’s have become inured to it. They’re also afraid: that they will be physically attacked, or sued, or called out as “racist” in the social media blogosphere.
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2023 06:02     Subject: Tenleytown Wawa Fight

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The truth is J-R is going to have hundreds of OOB students no matter what. The problem is that the city is having kids learn in utility closets because they don't want to cut down the 700+ OOB students at J-R to a more reasonable number like 450 OOB students. And then they kick out people who bought homes zones for J-R so that they can preserve the high number of OOB students. And then Bowser keeps trying to cut the funding. I always laugh when people in this forum act like Ward 3 has this huge amount of political power.

Anyway, I don't think most people have a problem with OOB students in general, just the city's priorities. J-R (then Wilson) used to be about 2/3's OOB if I recall correctly, but back then Tenleytown was a pleasant place. I don't really know if it's the pandemic, or the city deciding to let people commit whatever crime they want, or something in the education system, but the students now just don't seem to care about any social rules. I saw one just openly shoplifting right in front of a police officer (the officer called him out).

Part of it might be society, too. A couple of decades back, the metro station manager, the CVS manager, the bus drivers, the whole food security guard, the Wilson SRO - all of them were tough and didn't hesitate to put students in their place if they stepped out of line. Nowadays, no one seems to care.


They have seen exactly what will happen if things go sideways and have no desire to star in a viral video where people like you will insist they be fired and driven from society (if not jailed).



Fair. And for years people have been defending the JR impact "How do you know they're not Sidwell kids?". Look, how are the parents not embarrassed? that's the ultimate in self-absorption. I would be out as a parent working with the admin, the business district and the police.
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2023 04:16     Subject: Tenleytown Wawa Fight

Anonymous wrote:The truth is J-R is going to have hundreds of OOB students no matter what. The problem is that the city is having kids learn in utility closets because they don't want to cut down the 700+ OOB students at J-R to a more reasonable number like 450 OOB students. And then they kick out people who bought homes zones for J-R so that they can preserve the high number of OOB students. And then Bowser keeps trying to cut the funding. I always laugh when people in this forum act like Ward 3 has this huge amount of political power.

Anyway, I don't think most people have a problem with OOB students in general, just the city's priorities. J-R (then Wilson) used to be about 2/3's OOB if I recall correctly, but back then Tenleytown was a pleasant place. I don't really know if it's the pandemic, or the city deciding to let people commit whatever crime they want, or something in the education system, but the students now just don't seem to care about any social rules. I saw one just openly shoplifting right in front of a police officer (the officer called him out).

Part of it might be society, too. A couple of decades back, the metro station manager, the CVS manager, the bus drivers, the whole food security guard, the Wilson SRO - all of them were tough and didn't hesitate to put students in their place if they stepped out of line. Nowadays, no one seems to care.


They have seen exactly what will happen if things go sideways and have no desire to star in a viral video where people like you will insist they be fired and driven from society (if not jailed).

Anonymous
Post 10/30/2023 22:07     Subject: Tenleytown Wawa Fight

The truth is J-R is going to have hundreds of OOB students no matter what. The problem is that the city is having kids learn in utility closets because they don't want to cut down the 700+ OOB students at J-R to a more reasonable number like 450 OOB students. And then they kick out people who bought homes zones for J-R so that they can preserve the high number of OOB students. And then Bowser keeps trying to cut the funding. I always laugh when people in this forum act like Ward 3 has this huge amount of political power.

Anyway, I don't think most people have a problem with OOB students in general, just the city's priorities. J-R (then Wilson) used to be about 2/3's OOB if I recall correctly, but back then Tenleytown was a pleasant place. I don't really know if it's the pandemic, or the city deciding to let people commit whatever crime they want, or something in the education system, but the students now just don't seem to care about any social rules. I saw one just openly shoplifting right in front of a police officer (the officer called him out).

Part of it might be society, too. A couple of decades back, the metro station manager, the CVS manager, the bus drivers, the whole food security guard, the Wilson SRO - all of them were tough and didn't hesitate to put students in their place if they stepped out of line. Nowadays, no one seems to care.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2023 21:12     Subject: Tenleytown Wawa Fight

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: And hostile to OOD - out of District - those fraudsters who live in Maryland but send their kids to DC schools, including "Wilson."


Who would do this? We live a few miles from Wilson, in Bethesda. Why would we commit fraud to send our kids to Wilson instead of the schools near us?

Is it people on the other side of MD like PG county? That's a long commute to get to Wilson every morning if so!


Kids mostly from PG, May have some connection to DC government employees who work the system.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2023 20:50     Subject: Re:Tenleytown Wawa Fight

I think the issue with the Maryland fraudsters and the OOB is the “school is the babysitter” mentality. If Larla goes to this Ward 3 school that will be the game changer on behavior and grades etc. The ship has sailed on behavior and values by the time you are a HS freshman. Sorry - not a school’s mission to set your kid straight. So all the kids with good behavior are hurt by the disruption the ill behaved kids cause, the teachers are frustrated and everyone loses. The Wilson population has contributed immensely to the decline of Tenleytown.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2023 20:23     Subject: Tenleytown Wawa Fight

Anonymous wrote: And hostile to OOD - out of District - those fraudsters who live in Maryland but send their kids to DC schools, including "Wilson."


Who would do this? We live a few miles from Wilson, in Bethesda. Why would we commit fraud to send our kids to Wilson instead of the schools near us?

Is it people on the other side of MD like PG county? That's a long commute to get to Wilson every morning if so!
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2023 20:20     Subject: Re:Tenleytown Wawa Fight

Anonymous wrote:Full court press til' the message gets through ^
Also, does JR have ANY kind of codes or character ed? Seems like such a free for all in there. Kids are good at heart, but adults need ot provide something to aspire to. Maybe current parents could speak to this. Is the sense of service and community and responsibility strong at JR?


What does “kids are good at heart” mean? If you’re being literal, the opposite is true. No one is born “good at heart.” People- kids- must be socialized, which is clearly lacking in this case.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2023 20:12     Subject: Tenleytown Wawa Fight

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:38% school is out of boundary. Just eliminate that and I guarantee you’ll see crime decrease in tenley.

Sorry but it needs to be said.

If that won’t happen, there should be cops all over Tenley for a year the nip it in the butt.


The city just kicked out a huge percentage of the in-boundary students and sent them to MacArthur to ensure that a large percent of both schools will always be out of boundary (the feeder middle-schools won't come close to filling up either highschool). A lot of people missed that that was what MacArthur was about - making sure that Ward 3 doesn't have a local high school, and that all the high schools in Ward 3 are de facto city-wide schools.


This is what Bowser meant when she promised “Alice Deal for all.” (Excluding of course certain Ward 3 neighborhoods that had fed to Deal for 70 yearss). Bowser has been even more successful with “Spreading crime to all.”


We were a model OOB family--invested, volunteered, participated. It works somewhat at elementary level. I wouldn't be opposed to a cap. Something breaks down in High School though. Maybe because parents aren't physically bringing their kids? Maybe the kids feel like it's their playground, not their neighborhood? Maybe schools like JR don't have enough family engagement? Maybe the school-community contract (I believe there is one) isn't being honored in any way? Maybe because the admin has zero visibility? It needs to be looked at. Tenleytown Main Street is not being treated as a community (even OOB community) 'hub'. It's being really disrespected as a neighborhood center. Which is its function.


So do you assume that it's just the OOB students who are throwing trash on the ground? My kid was inbound and I know it's not just the OOB.


No, I don't. But I see zero school-community partnership, and I assume some kids are and a high number are OOB. So, both?


Why is the percentage of OOB so high?
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2023 19:44     Subject: Re:Tenleytown Wawa Fight

Full court press til' the message gets through ^
Also, does JR have ANY kind of codes or character ed? Seems like such a free for all in there. Kids are good at heart, but adults need ot provide something to aspire to. Maybe current parents could speak to this. Is the sense of service and community and responsibility strong at JR?