Anonymous
Post 10/11/2023 11:47     Subject: Re:Big story in WSJ on violent crime in DC

Anonymous
Post 10/11/2023 11:13     Subject: Re:Big story in WSJ on violent crime in DC

Defund the police.

#BlackLivesMatter
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2023 20:25     Subject: Re:Big story in WSJ on violent crime in DC

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Homicides thru July:

Down 34 percent in Pittsburgh
Down 32 percent in Atlanta
Down 21 percent in Los Angeles
Down 21 percent in Philadelphia
Down 8 percent in Chicago
Down 7 percent in St Louis
Down 4 percent in Detroit
Up 5 percent in NYC

Up 11 percent in Washington DC

—Council on Criminal Justice


“It was much worse in the 90s”


That may be true for homicides in Atlanta but not true for muggings, robberies, home breakins, thefts, looting, and carjackings.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2023 20:05     Subject: Re:Big story in WSJ on violent crime in DC

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.reddit.com/r/washdc/comments/171c5me/comment/k3ps1c5/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

Thank you for posting a link to the article. I was most disturbed by the 12 year old who said one of his goals was just to survive to adulthood.

It pisses me off to no end that there is this massive crisis happening with young kids dying every day and many others spending their days contemplating their mortality while nothing is done to protect them from the violence. Instead, what is getting prioritized are dead dogs, bike lanes, ebike vouchers.

Apparently the important stakeholders in this city are concerned that their dog could’ve died or their kid could’ve been the one that got hit by a car, but are not so concerned about the kids who spend their days worrying about dodging bullets.


DC needs to come to grips with the reality that there is no longer an educational path for thousands of teen AA kids. An already uphill battle was completely derailed during the ill advised school shutdowns. Truancy rates are through the roof. No amount of tutoring or enrichment will get these kids anywhere near earning a diploma worth the paper it is written on. These kids need to be immediately identified and put on a vocational track. Otherwise they will have no alternative to crime to provide for themselves.


THIS. And they have to be gotten back in schools for that to work. That truancy was not a HUGE focus of Bowser for this school year was shocking to me, esp with a lot of violent crime committed by juveniles during the school day last year, or when schools were delayed. The human toll on individuals is unacceptable and the societal toll of the status quo is horrific.


I understand that we don't enforce truancy laws because the punishment (e.g., incarcerating the parents of the truant child) is viewed as worse than the child not receiving an education. I would propose repealing truancy laws (which really were put in place when the social fabric was different and folks could be shamed into sending their kids to school) and replacing them with financial incentives for academic performance by lower-SES students. Basically, replace the stick with a carrot.


Public stocks or flogging if truant students in front of the school would increase attendance compliance rather quickly.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2023 07:44     Subject: Re:Big story in WSJ on violent crime in DC

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, all the Murdoch outlets are pushing this story.


It isn’t just the Murdoch companies. It’s the entire right-wing media conspiracy Hillary spoke accurately about back in the 1990s.

It’s actually amazing how predictable it is. What wedge issues are they going to blow out of proportion and then cry bias that the professional news media isn’t following suit?

It’s a little like the Daily Wire’s bizarre fascination with culture war stories about Northern Virginia. The right wing media complex is hell-bent on disinformation


Which part of the statistics is disinformation?


The emphasis of the coverage is the issue. No one said these aren’t important issues, they’re just really not the most urgent ones. So the wall-to-wall coverage like they’re crises or something is what’s objectionable.


You are right, DEI funding and programs are more urgent. As is the funding and building of bike lanes - urgent!!! Crime - meh. It’s okay kids are having their shoes stolen in a public library. Not urgent!


Oh yeah if one ward 3 white dude on a bike gets hit on Connecticut avenue we have to spend billions of dollars completely reworking our transportation system and talk about it endlessly.

But if murders are up 40 percent, robberies are up 70 percent, car thefts have more than doubled, teenagers are looting drug stores — it’s oh crime is not that big of deal, why are you obsessed?


Maybe we could find a white cyclist from Tenleytown who was a victim of a violent crime? Then people would care?


I’m not sure why you presume that you are the only one who does care? Would you prefer that Ward 3 had elected the guy deploying the dog whistle over the voucher recipients? Would that convince you that they care more? And what the hell does this have to do with cycling?


Our government doesn’t give a shit about crime (it would be sad if they were actually trying to reduce crime and these were the results). But bike lanes? They are happy to talk about that all day long. You know there was a cyclist killed several years ago, right?



When the mayor picks the head of diversity training to run the entire police force, it’s a pretty good sign that putting bad guys in prison is not the top priority


+1 And she has very little actual experience running a large urban police force. All this would read like satire if we didn't actually live here.


She is from the PARK POLICE.

My understanding is that many senior officers in MPD are about to hit retirement. None were willing to take on chief job. I think Bowser thought that her ties to churches were a plus somehow re: juveniles. I don't follow that line of thinking, but it seems to be something they are trying to emphasize.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2023 22:16     Subject: Re:Big story in WSJ on violent crime in DC

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Anonymous wrote:I'm the PP.

So, yeah, it makes total sense for Murdoch - MAGA news sources to talk about how bad crime is in DC and then scoop up yet more real estate as scared people exit DC.

It's like how people manipulate the stock market with "news."

I'm the one who said they felt relieved after seeing the story in the WSJ. DC has always been a shooty city, and it's probably not going to get much better.

Your conspiracy theory is that Rupert Murdoch is trying to drive down property values city wide so that Republicans can buy real estate on the cheap to turn a single block of Capitol Hill into a MAGA homeland?



Anonymous
Post 10/09/2023 22:15     Subject: Big story in WSJ on violent crime in DC

Yep. I saw him running around shooting and carjacking. Sprightly for a nonagenarian. All so he could pick up some smelly colonials. Figures.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2023 22:07     Subject: Re:Big story in WSJ on violent crime in DC

Anonymous wrote:I'm the PP.

So, yeah, it makes total sense for Murdoch - MAGA news sources to talk about how bad crime is in DC and then scoop up yet more real estate as scared people exit DC.

It's like how people manipulate the stock market with "news."

I'm the one who said they felt relieved after seeing the story in the WSJ. DC has always been a shooty city, and it's probably not going to get much better.

Your conspiracy theory is that Rupert Murdoch is trying to drive down property values city wide so that Republicans can buy real estate on the cheap to turn a single block of Capitol Hill into a MAGA homeland?
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2023 21:58     Subject: Re:Big story in WSJ on violent crime in DC

Anonymous wrote:Trayon White has literally called his ward a war zone and begged for the national guard to step in.


That's because Trayon "Jews control the weather" White is an idiot.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2023 21:45     Subject: Re:Big story in WSJ on violent crime in DC

I'm the PP.

So, yeah, it makes total sense for Murdoch - MAGA news sources to talk about how bad crime is in DC and then scoop up yet more real estate as scared people exit DC.

It's like how people manipulate the stock market with "news."

I'm the one who said they felt relieved after seeing the story in the WSJ. DC has always been a shooty city, and it's probably not going to get much better.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2023 21:42     Subject: Big story in WSJ on violent crime in DC

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Anonymous wrote:Odd - right wing media pushing the DC crime story and people leaving while right wing groups are purchasing real estate all over Cap Hill.


Really? Elaborate please?


DP

They are prob referring to this article about MAGA groups buying up property on Cap Hill and calling it "Patriot's Row."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/03/15/dc-maga-campus-patriots-row-meadows/

"At first glance, the flurry of real estate sales two blocks east of the U.S. Capitol appeared unremarkable in a city where such sales are common. In the span of a year, a seemingly unrelated gaggle of recently formed companies bought nine properties, all within steps of one another.

But the sales were not coincidental. Unbeknown to most of the sellers, the limited liability companies making the purchases — a shopping spree that added up to $41 million — are connected to a conservative nonprofit led by Mark Meadows, who was chief of staff to President Donald Trump. The organization has promoted MAGA stars like Reps. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) and Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.).

The Conservative Partnership Institute, as the nonprofit is known, now controls four commercial properties along a single Pennsylvania Avenue block, three adjoining rowhouses around the corner, and a garage and carriage house in the rear alley. CPI’s aim, as expressed in its annual report, is to transform the swath of prime real estate into a campus it calls “Patriots’ Row.”"

Anonymous
Post 10/09/2023 21:30     Subject: Re:Big story in WSJ on violent crime in DC

Anonymous wrote:Homicides thru July:

Down 34 percent in Pittsburgh
Down 32 percent in Atlanta
Down 21 percent in Los Angeles
Down 21 percent in Philadelphia
Down 8 percent in Chicago
Down 7 percent in St Louis
Down 4 percent in Detroit
Up 5 percent in NYC

Up 11 percent in Washington DC

—Council on Criminal Justice


“It was much worse in the 90s”
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2023 21:12     Subject: Re:Big story in WSJ on violent crime in DC

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, all the Murdoch outlets are pushing this story.


It isn’t just the Murdoch companies. It’s the entire right-wing media conspiracy Hillary spoke accurately about back in the 1990s.

It’s actually amazing how predictable it is. What wedge issues are they going to blow out of proportion and then cry bias that the professional news media isn’t following suit?

It’s a little like the Daily Wire’s bizarre fascination with culture war stories about Northern Virginia. The right wing media complex is hell-bent on disinformation


Neither DC crime, nor the border, nor inflation are real issues.


100%. It's all overblown and being misrepresented.

Crime is bad. I get it. Other people here get it to. But our rate of violent crime is better than those other cities. It's like people in Ward 3 flipping out over a single digit increase in a type of crime, when from a level perspective they are way, way, way below the rest of the city.

These articles all lack perspective.


And you apparently live in a fish bowl. It's nice to hear you're not too worried over in Ward 3, but it's pure hell in other parts of DC. Trayon White has literally called his ward a war zone and begged for the national guard to step in.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2023 19:35     Subject: Big story in WSJ on violent crime in DC

I didn't know Murdock jacked my car
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2023 18:33     Subject: Re:Big story in WSJ on violent crime in DC

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, all the Murdoch outlets are pushing this story.


It isn’t just the Murdoch companies. It’s the entire right-wing media conspiracy Hillary spoke accurately about back in the 1990s.

It’s actually amazing how predictable it is. What wedge issues are they going to blow out of proportion and then cry bias that the professional news media isn’t following suit?

It’s a little like the Daily Wire’s bizarre fascination with culture war stories about Northern Virginia. The right wing media complex is hell-bent on disinformation


Which part of the statistics is disinformation?


The emphasis of the coverage is the issue. No one said these aren’t important issues, they’re just really not the most urgent ones. So the wall-to-wall coverage like they’re crises or something is what’s objectionable.


You are right, DEI funding and programs are more urgent. As is the funding and building of bike lanes - urgent!!! Crime - meh. It’s okay kids are having their shoes stolen in a public library. Not urgent!


Oh yeah if one ward 3 white dude on a bike gets hit on Connecticut avenue we have to spend billions of dollars completely reworking our transportation system and talk about it endlessly.

But if murders are up 40 percent, robberies are up 70 percent, car thefts have more than doubled, teenagers are looting drug stores — it’s oh crime is not that big of deal, why are you obsessed?


Maybe we could find a white cyclist from Tenleytown who was a victim of a violent crime? Then people would care?


I’m not sure why you presume that you are the only one who does care? Would you prefer that Ward 3 had elected the guy deploying the dog whistle over the voucher recipients? Would that convince you that they care more? And what the hell does this have to do with cycling?


Our government doesn’t give a shit about crime (it would be sad if they were actually trying to reduce crime and these were the results). But bike lanes? They are happy to talk about that all day long. You know there was a cyclist killed several years ago, right?



When the mayor picks the head of diversity training to run the entire police force, it’s a pretty good sign that putting bad guys in prison is not the top priority


+1 And she has very little actual experience running a large urban police force. All this would read like satire if we didn't actually live here.