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Anonymous wrote:I feel sorry for girls nowadays who feel pressure to look “hot” vs “classy”.

I’m trying to teach my DD that you can be stylish and fashionable without showing T&A.
If you don’t want to be objectified, don’t put all of your objects on display.

Most of these girls by me are wearing very un-sexy clothes the rest of the time. Oversized giant sweatshirts and shirts that cover shorts. They look totally different one night for homecoming, but the rest of the time it’s giant shirts, pajama bottoms, and sloppy hair. So what if they want to get glammed up one night a year?

Glammed up doesn’t have to mean revealing.

I wonder why the men and boys aren’t racing to attend formal events in their underclothes.

What is being revealed in these dresses? Body shape? Arms? Legs? The same thing revealed in a swim suit? Or leotard? Or volleyball shorts? Or many other things girls wear?

I noticed you didn’t respond to my question. Where are the boys and men revealing full thigh, bare arms and shoulders, and upper pecs?

In their wrestling unis, Pearl.

Anonymous wrote:My DD’s hoco dress looks similar to this:

https://www.lulus.com/products/flawless-favorite-teal-halter-mini-dress/1837436.html

So yeah, mini is definitely what’s in style.

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Anonymous wrote:Hate those dresses - not age appropriate imo.

Part of me thinks that but then I remember I am now a middle age mom. I remember my parents telling me my outfit wasn’t appropriate as a teen.

My daughter has a standard uniform Windsor micro mini dress. The only variation between girls seems to be the color and if they are wearing shoes or sneakers.

We, the good girls, agreed with your mother. My brothers(the cool and the quiet) and their friends “said many things” about you. My 13yo DS says that girls like your DD don’t respect themselves(no, we’re not religious).

Ick it sound like your opinionated boy is going to be trying to get out of a SA charge by saying the girl provoked him with her mini skirt.

Your post says everything that is wrong with men. Glad you are raising a pig.

The problem is really trashy mothers like you. You cannot give the message to your girls that they should cultivate their mind and brain, but then allow them to dress like pole dancers.

There are many age and occasion appropriate clothes for girls, but, if they are deliberately dressing to be sexy, well then, people are going to look at them because they are sexy, and the opinion about them will be that they want sexual attention. That is all.

Mostly the girls who are dressing like this are coming from messed up families and they are fair game to many boys who are also from messed up families. The generally decent boys and girls may judge them but they stay far away from them. They won't touch these people with a nine-foot pole because who wants to deal with a dumpster fire?

NP and you sound insane. Is there any age where you find these dresses appropriate? I mean, take 80% of boring suburban moms and we all used to dress like this back in the day.

This is DCUM. The population is multi-cultural, educated and multinational. So, the typical trailer trash is not the norm here. That's all. No, not ALL girls used to dress like this back in the day. Not ALL girls dress like this even now. At least not in DMV.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel sorry for girls nowadays who feel pressure to look “hot” vs “classy”.

I’m trying to teach my DD that you can be stylish and fashionable without showing T&A.
If you don’t want to be objectified, don’t put all of your objects on display.

Most of these girls by me are wearing very un-sexy clothes the rest of the time. Oversized giant sweatshirts and shirts that cover shorts. They look totally different one night for homecoming, but the rest of the time it’s giant shirts, pajama bottoms, and sloppy hair. So what if they want to get glammed up one night a year?

Glammed up doesn’t have to mean revealing.

I wonder why the men and boys aren’t racing to attend formal events in their underclothes.

What is being revealed in these dresses? Body shape? Arms? Legs? The same thing revealed in a swim suit? Or leotard? Or volleyball shorts? Or many other things girls wear?

I noticed you didn’t respond to my question. Where are the boys and men revealing full thigh, bare arms and shoulders, and upper pecs?

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Anonymous wrote:Hate those dresses - not age appropriate imo.

Part of me thinks that but then I remember I am now a middle age mom. I remember my parents telling me my outfit wasn’t appropriate as a teen.

My daughter has a standard uniform Windsor micro mini dress. The only variation between girls seems to be the color and if they are wearing shoes or sneakers.

What seems to be the trend on this? My DD is not a heels girl (walks like a baby giraffe in them, prefers her "dress sneakers") but it seems like most of the Hoco pics I've seen this year have the girls wearing strappy heels?

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Anonymous wrote:Hate those dresses - not age appropriate imo.

Part of me thinks that but then I remember I am now a middle age mom. I remember my parents telling me my outfit wasn’t appropriate as a teen.

My daughter has a standard uniform Windsor micro mini dress. The only variation between girls seems to be the color and if they are wearing shoes or sneakers.

We, the good girls, agreed with your mother. My brothers(the cool and the quiet) and their friends “said many things” about you. My 13yo DS says that girls like your DD don’t respect themselves(no, we’re not religious).

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Anonymous wrote:Hate those dresses - not age appropriate imo.

Part of me thinks that but then I remember I am now a middle age mom. I remember my parents telling me my outfit wasn’t appropriate as a teen.

My daughter has a standard uniform Windsor micro mini dress. The only variation between girls seems to be the color and if they are wearing shoes or sneakers.

We, the good girls, agreed with your mother. My brothers(the cool and the quiet) and their friends “said many things” about you. My 13yo DS says that girls like your DD don’t respect themselves(no, we’re not religious).

Ick it sound like your opinionated boy is going to be trying to get out of a SA charge by saying the girl provoked him with her mini skirt.

Your post says everything that is wrong with men. Glad you are raising a pig.

The problem is really trashy mothers like you. You cannot give the message to your girls that they should cultivate their mind and brain, but then allow them to dress like pole dancers.

There are many age and occasion appropriate clothes for girls, but, if they are deliberately dressing to be sexy, well then, people are going to look at them because they are sexy, and the opinion about them will be that they want sexual attention. That is all.

Mostly the girls who are dressing like this are coming from messed up families and they are fair game to many boys who are also from messed up families. The generally decent boys and girls may judge them but they stay far away from them. They won't touch these people with a nine-foot pole because who wants to deal with a dumpster fire?

NP and you sound insane. Is there any age where you find these dresses appropriate? I mean, take 80% of boring suburban moms and we all used to dress like this back in the day.

This is DCUM. The population is multi-cultural, educated and multinational. So, the typical trailer trash is not the norm here. That's all. No, not ALL girls used to dress like this back in the day. Not ALL girls dress like this even now. At least not in DMV.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here.
I didn't expect to wake up to 4 pages!

My issue with the dresses is that they're just so boring. They're carbon copies of each other with absolutely nothing to them.

When you go to lulus.com or Revolve or ASOS or Anthro there are pages and pages of gorgeous mini dresses.... and they're all different. Meanwhile the girls all wear the most basic an boring solid colored slip dresses (or at least they did last year) My daughter wore a dress with a full skirt to winter formal last year and I think she was the only girl there not in a solid color slip dress and sneakers.

I know she can do her own thing (and she did last year) but I'm hoping that maybe the girls are getting bored of looking exactly the same year-after-year. Slip dress and sneakers. Slip dress and sneakers. Why even dress up if you're just wearing a uniform? What happened to personality or creativity? When I was young we all wore unique dresses.

I like that sequins are in. At least it's different.

Most people are followers. I find it hard to believe that everyone wore a unique dress when you were young -- maybe your friend group did, or maybe that's what you remember, but most people tend to stay in similar range. I'd say the only way to inspire creativity is to tell your girl to be the one who is willing to be different. Then she'll encourage those who are afraid to take more of a risk.

OP here. Yep, well I think she's going for unique. And completely out of left field she was asked by a boy who is about as popular as it gets (lacrosse star, etc). My daughter is pretty but also super brainy and artsy. This guy usually goes for the instagram-model, bikini picture-taking types. Not this year. It's funny. I think some boys mature with age and realize they can break the mold of what is expected of them too.

OP, you can't just lift the narrative of "She's All That" and pretend that it's your daughter's life story. Some of us were teens in the 90s and we remember this movie.

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter and all her friends wore short dresses, and they all wore mini-biker shorts underneath. NBD.

Same. Some bitter old biddies on this thread.

Or just moms who actually parent and care about the well-being and confidence of their girls? We don't pimp our girls out as pre-teens.

Are you saying your daughter has confidence issues? I am glad you admitted that. In that case, I agree she should not wear a little mini dress!! Many of our daughters feel confident and comfortable wearing short homecoming dresses.

I live in a warm climate and kids wear shorts, tank tops, halters all the time. Plus, bathing suits and bikinis the whole summer. There is not the sense one should cover up her body. Perhaps it’s cultural, I don’t know, but please don’t extract your situation and apply it to others.

Your DD can wear whatever she likes. What most PPs are saying is that we are all judged for what we wear and teen girls are no exception. I see a teen girl dressed per your description and I usually think that they are vapid and don't have much to offer. In my experience, that has not been far off the mark and I've told my DD that you can usually tell which girls have something to offer and those that don't. If you're wrapped up in selling yourself as a sexual object don't be surprised when you are not viewed as anything else. The idea is to try to instill a greater sense of self worth for young girls and promote the idea that they have a purpose beyond male attention seeking. No one has said to cover your entire body. We're not pushing burkas. But the masses seem to think that the Kim Kardashians of this world are a great role model for girls and that's precisely the issue. Girls (and their mothers) support the notion that women have no place in this world unless you've sold yourself half naked. Shame.

I can guarantee that MCPS high school girls could not careless what some anonymous middle aged woman on the internet thinks of their homecoming address. Most don’t care what the middle aged adults they do know think. Maybe if you were TSwift or Cardi B, they might listen.

Exactly. Cardi B is an uneducated, former stripper who makes a living selling herself, and while she has made millions doing so, the former addict/stripper is not high on the list of female role models. But I bet your girls want to look just like her bc those are the images of females that the see. That’s the point. The types of influencer role models that young women aspire to are troubling.

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter and all her friends wore short dresses, and they all wore mini-biker shorts underneath. NBD.

Same. Some bitter old biddies on this thread.

Or just moms who actually parent and care about the well-being and confidence of their girls? We don't pimp our girls out as pre-teens.

Are you saying your daughter has confidence issues? I am glad you admitted that. In that case, I agree she should not wear a little mini dress!! Many of our daughters feel confident and comfortable wearing short homecoming dresses.

I live in a warm climate and kids wear shorts, tank tops, halters all the time. Plus, bathing suits and bikinis the whole summer. There is not the sense one should cover up her body. Perhaps it’s cultural, I don’t know, but please don’t extract your situation and apply it to others.

Your DD can wear whatever she likes. What most PPs are saying is that we are all judged for what we wear and teen girls are no exception. I see a teen girl dressed per your description and I usually think that they are vapid and don't have much to offer. In my experience, that has not been far off the mark and I've told my DD that you can usually tell which girls have something to offer and those that don't. If you're wrapped up in selling yourself as a sexual object don't be surprised when you are not viewed as anything else. The idea is to try to instill a greater sense of self worth for young girls and promote the idea that they have a purpose beyond male attention seeking. No one has said to cover your entire body. We're not pushing burkas. But the masses seem to think that the Kim Kardashians of this world are a great role model for girls and that's precisely the issue. Girls (and their mothers) support the notion that women have no place in this world unless you've sold yourself half naked. Shame.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel sorry for girls nowadays who feel pressure to look “hot” vs “classy”.

I’m trying to teach my DD that you can be stylish and fashionable without showing T&A.
If you don’t want to be objectified, don’t put all of your objects on display.

Most of these girls by me are wearing very un-sexy clothes the rest of the time. Oversized giant sweatshirts and shirts that cover shorts. They look totally different one night for homecoming, but the rest of the time it’s giant shirts, pajama bottoms, and sloppy hair. So what if they want to get glammed up one night a year?

Glammed up doesn’t have to mean revealing.

I wonder why the men and boys aren’t racing to attend formal events in their underclothes.

What is being revealed in these dresses? Body shape? Arms? Legs? The same thing revealed in a swim suit? Or leotard? Or volleyball shorts? Or many other things girls wear?

I noticed you didn’t respond to my question. Where are the boys and men revealing full thigh, bare arms and shoulders, and upper pecs?

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Anonymous wrote:I feel sorry for girls nowadays who feel pressure to look “hot” vs “classy”.

I’m trying to teach my DD that you can be stylish and fashionable without showing T&A.
If you don’t want to be objectified, don’t put all of your objects on display.

Most of these girls by me are wearing very un-sexy clothes the rest of the time. Oversized giant sweatshirts and shirts that cover shorts. They look totally different one night for homecoming, but the rest of the time it’s giant shirts, pajama bottoms, and sloppy hair. So what if they want to get glammed up one night a year?

Glammed up doesn’t have to mean revealing.

I wonder why the men and boys aren’t racing to attend formal events in their underclothes.

What is being revealed in these dresses? Body shape? Arms? Legs? The same thing revealed in a swim suit? Or leotard? Or volleyball shorts? Or many other things girls wear?

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Anonymous wrote:Hate those dresses - not age appropriate imo.

Part of me thinks that but then I remember I am now a middle age mom. I remember my parents telling me my outfit wasn’t appropriate as a teen.

My daughter has a standard uniform Windsor micro mini dress. The only variation between girls seems to be the color and if they are wearing shoes or sneakers.

We, the good girls, agreed with your mother. My brothers(the cool and the quiet) and their friends “said many things” about you. My 13yo DS says that girls like your DD don’t respect themselves(no, we’re not religious).

This isn't something to be proud of. I'd be lived if my son said something like this because of how someone dressed.

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter and all her friends wore short dresses, and they all wore mini-biker shorts underneath. NBD.

Same. Some bitter old biddies on this thread.

Or just moms who actually parent and care about the well-being and confidence of their girls? We don't pimp our girls out as pre-teens.

Are you saying your daughter has confidence issues? I am glad you admitted that. In that case, I agree she should not wear a little mini dress!! Many of our daughters feel confident and comfortable wearing short homecoming dresses.

I live in a warm climate and kids wear shorts, tank tops, halters all the time. Plus, bathing suits and bikinis the whole summer. There is not the sense one should cover up her body. Perhaps it’s cultural, I don’t know, but please don’t extract your situation and apply it to others.

Your DD can wear whatever she likes. What most PPs are saying is that we are all judged for what we wear and teen girls are no exception. I see a teen girl dressed per your description and I usually think that they are vapid and don't have much to offer. In my experience, that has not been far off the mark and I've told my DD that you can usually tell which girls have something to offer and those that don't. If you're wrapped up in selling yourself as a sexual object don't be surprised when you are not viewed as anything else. The idea is to try to instill a greater sense of self worth for young girls and promote the idea that they have a purpose beyond male attention seeking. No one has said to cover your entire body. We're not pushing burkas. But the masses seem to think that the Kim Kardashians of this world are a great role model for girls and that's precisely the issue. Girls (and their mothers) support the notion that women have no place in this world unless you've sold yourself half naked. Shame.

I can guarantee that MCPS high school girls could not careless what some anonymous middle aged woman on the internet thinks of their homecoming address. Most don’t care what the middle aged adults they do know think. Maybe if you were TSwift or Cardi B, they might listen.