Anonymous
Post 10/05/2023 14:20     Subject: Does your student like/love UVA?
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Anonymous wrote:I don't know if this addresses your question, but the UVA grads I know might be perfectly nice and/or capable, but any of that is overshadowed by their cockyness. I mean, it's not Harvard, or even close. I feel like grads from better schools seem far less cocky. This gives me a negative impression, YMMV.


Same. I was at a party recently with a 40ish yo UVA married couple who kept going on and one about UVA and Thomas Jefferson and blah blah blah. I kept nodding out of politeness and the wife asked how I know the hosts. I said I went to college with the wife. Oops the husband works with her so they know we went to HYP. They quickly stopped bragging. 20 years out….who cares?


And you think THEY’RE insufferable? Classic.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2023 14:18     Subject: Does your student like/love UVA?
92% acceptance rate to start with.

Agree that this is just PR.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2023 13:57     Subject: Does your student like/love UVA?
Anonymous wrote:I don't know if this addresses your question, but the UVA grads I know might be perfectly nice and/or capable, but any of that is overshadowed by their cockyness. I mean, it's not Harvard, or even close. I feel like grads from better schools seem far less cocky. This gives me a negative impression, YMMV.


Same. I was at a party recently with a 40ish yo UVA married couple who kept going on and one about UVA and Thomas Jefferson and blah blah blah. I kept nodding out of politeness and the wife asked how I know the hosts. I said I went to college with the wife. Oops the husband works with her so they know we went to HYP. They quickly stopped bragging. 20 years out….who cares?
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2023 13:26     Subject: Does your student like/love UVA?
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Anonymous wrote:So many evangelical Korean premed girls crushing it in all areas of life at Uva right now.


Good for them, I respect and appreciate hard work and dedication
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Some lie and say their parent is clergy and get admitted w/ 3.5 gpa and 1200 SAT since apparently UVA gives substantial 'hook' to children of ministers. I saw 2 girls get admitted this way w/ subpar grades/scores.



This has got to be a post by a Virginia TEch (UVA's rival) troll. And there is no "hook" for children of ministers. That's absurd.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2023 12:18     Subject: Does your student like/love UVA?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So many evangelical Korean premed girls crushing it in all areas of life at Uva right now.


Good for them, I respect and appreciate hard work and dedication
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Some lie and say their parent is clergy and get admitted w/ 3.5 gpa and 1200 SAT since apparently UVA gives substantial 'hook' to children of ministers. I saw 2 girls get admitted this way w/ subpar grades/scores.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2023 12:09     Subject: Does your student like/love UVA?
Anonymous wrote:UVa has the highest graduation rate among public universities, at 91 percent, which may say something very significant about the relative happiness of students. Same as Duke and Georgetown. However, it cannot touch Notre Dame at 94 percent. Deal with that.

If you think that difference is statistically significant, you should take a statistics class.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2023 11:57     Subject: Does your student like/love UVA?
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Anonymous wrote:It's really strange to see expression of school spirit or pride as a negative. It's evidence of a good community. It's a good thing when alumni love their college. It's a good thing when the school's network is strong. It's not "cocky" to be proud of your college. It's a pretty normal thing...unless you went to a school that didn't have much school spirit.

UVA grads (and Tech grades, for that matter) are a lot like grads from where I went to school. Super proud, wear the school gear, get together for watch parties, hope our kids consider it when their time comes, etc.


I totally agree with this. I went to Texas and exchange (Hook E'm) hand signs almost daily with others in DC that are wearing the gear. Make no mistake, UVA is a great school. It just does not have any cache out of the DMV area. It's sports are mediocre at best and while the school is ranked highly as public university, there are many public universities that have higher ranked majors in close distance to the DMV. Wisconsin, Michigan and Purdue to name a few.

All UVA boosters, be proud of your school - as you should be. I just find it ridiculous to shout down others that went to a different school.


I agree that UVA is better known and valued here in the DMV, which is pretty typical for the vast majority of colleges and universities, but to say it has no cache outside of the DMV is absurd. There were 41,377 OOS applicants for the current freshmen class.


Yeah, I love posts like that. So disconnected with reality. Reminds me of WC Fields: “nobody goes there anymore. It’s too crowded.“


Yogi Berra?


Yes! My bad.

Regardless, it’s pretty funny how tens of thousands of top students from all over the country who are also shooting for the Ivies, Duke, Stanford and other top privates routinely include UVA on their list every year, yet the school has no “cache out of the DMV?” Preposterous.


It’s the safety/fallback.


This board is pathological where UVA is concerned. I attended UNC OOS, had no interest in the school, and didn’t love the people I met when our pledge class visited the UVA chapter. Neither my kid nor any of his friends (as far as I know) applied.

BUT - it is undoubtedly a great school with a very strong alumni community. UVA grads can be a little tiresome in their pride in their alma mater, but so what - UNC fans are the same way, and UNC is a school that caps OOS admissions and treated academics for student athletes with utter contempt for many years (an incredible disservice to both the school’s reputation and the athletes). If tarheel alums can be proud, UVA alums have much more of a right to be.


UVa is a safety for good students.


Okay, troll. How do you define (quantitatively) "good students"?



LOL. I haven't heard of anyone using it as a safety for the last five years.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2023 11:16     Subject: Does your student like/love UVA?
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Anonymous wrote:UVa has the highest graduation rate among public universities, at 91 percent, which may say something very significant about the relative happiness of students. Same as Duke and Georgetown. However, it cannot touch Notre Dame at 94 percent. Deal with that.



Gosh maybe that has to do with the fact that ND's diversity stats are abysmal. It's a school for rich catholic kids so, yes, it WOULD have a higher graduation weight just due to demographics. https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/university-of-notre-dame/student-life/diversity/. Meanwhile, UVA has the highest pell grant graduation rate of any school in the nation. "Deal with that".

"UVA has the highest graduation rate for Pell grant recipients of all major public universities in the country, according to a new Washington Post analysis."


UVA has a lower percentage of its students taking the hard majors in STEM. Engineering in particular takes more credit hours to graduate than easier soft majors. Deal with that.


Than ND? False
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2023 11:11     Subject: Does your student like/love UVA?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:UVa has the highest graduation rate among public universities, at 91 percent, which may say something very significant about the relative happiness of students. Same as Duke and Georgetown. However, it cannot touch Notre Dame at 94 percent. Deal with that.



Gosh maybe that has to do with the fact that ND's diversity stats are abysmal. It's a school for rich catholic kids so, yes, it WOULD have a higher graduation weight just due to demographics. https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/university-of-notre-dame/student-life/diversity/. Meanwhile, UVA has the highest pell grant graduation rate of any school in the nation. "Deal with that".

"UVA has the highest graduation rate for Pell grant recipients of all major public universities in the country, according to a new Washington Post analysis."


Here again, soft majors are easier to graduate from in 4 years. Even Pell recipients graduate from those.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2023 11:10     Subject: Does your student like/love UVA?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:UVa has the highest graduation rate among public universities, at 91 percent, which may say something very significant about the relative happiness of students. Same as Duke and Georgetown. However, it cannot touch Notre Dame at 94 percent. Deal with that.



Gosh maybe that has to do with the fact that ND's diversity stats are abysmal. It's a school for rich catholic kids so, yes, it WOULD have a higher graduation weight just due to demographics. https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/university-of-notre-dame/student-life/diversity/. Meanwhile, UVA has the highest pell grant graduation rate of any school in the nation. "Deal with that".

"UVA has the highest graduation rate for Pell grant recipients of all major public universities in the country, according to a new Washington Post analysis."


UVA has a lower percentage of its students taking the hard majors in STEM. Engineering in particular takes more credit hours to graduate than easier soft majors. Deal with that.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2023 11:06     Subject: Does your student like/love UVA?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:UVa has the highest graduation rate among public universities, at 91 percent, which may say something very significant about the relative happiness of students. Same as Duke and Georgetown. However, it cannot touch Notre Dame at 94 percent. Deal with that.



Gosh maybe that has to do with the fact that ND's diversity stats are abysmal. It's a school for rich catholic kids so, yes, it WOULD have a higher graduation weight just due to demographics. https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/university-of-notre-dame/student-life/diversity/. Meanwhile, UVA has the highest pell grant graduation rate of any school in the nation. "Deal with that".

"UVA has the highest graduation rate for Pell grant recipients of all major public universities in the country, according to a new Washington Post analysis."



+1. 3.2 percent black is appalling. https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/university-of-notre-dame/student-life/diversity/chart-ethnic-diversity.html
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2023 11:03     Subject: Does your student like/love UVA?
Anonymous wrote:UVa has the highest graduation rate among public universities, at 91 percent, which may say something very significant about the relative happiness of students. Same as Duke and Georgetown. However, it cannot touch Notre Dame at 94 percent. Deal with that.



Gosh maybe that has to do with the fact that ND's diversity stats are abysmal. It's a school for rich catholic kids so, yes, it WOULD have a higher graduation weight just due to demographics. https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/university-of-notre-dame/student-life/diversity/. Meanwhile, UVA has the highest pell grant graduation rate of any school in the nation. "Deal with that".

"UVA has the highest graduation rate for Pell grant recipients of all major public universities in the country, according to a new Washington Post analysis."
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2023 10:54     Subject: Does your student like/love UVA?
UVa has the highest graduation rate among public universities, at 91 percent, which may say something very significant about the relative happiness of students. Same as Duke and Georgetown. However, it cannot touch Notre Dame at 94 percent. Deal with that.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2023 10:36     Subject: Does your student like/love UVA?
I don't see how you will get too many unbiased views on DCUM. Perhaps you can sort through to figure out which answers are both in good faith and pertinent to you based on similarities to your kid's situation, but many posts will have strong bias one way or another.

You might want to check an outcomes survey of graduates on the State Council of Higher Education website (Table 3 Page 96), which shows satisfaction across different metrics. UVA is near the top along with graduates of
W&M, VMI, UVA-Wise, VT, and JMU. The differences look to be quite small - most are relatively satisfied. Princeton Review may also be a good source as they use surveys.

https://research.schev.edu/downloads/virginia_educated_results/Virginia%20Educated%20Survey%202021%20Full%20Report%20no%20appendices.pdf
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2023 05:44     Subject: Does your student like/love UVA?
Anonymous wrote:So many evangelical Korean premed girls crushing it in all areas of life at Uva right now.


Good for them, I respect and appreciate hard work and dedication
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