Anonymous
Post 09/24/2023 16:30     Subject: Re:Antisemitic incident at Blair

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Re "sweeping it under the rug": Seems to me that this depends on something the article and letter do not address: WHEN did the incident occur? If it happened Thursday or Friday, seems like this was swift appropriate action to notify the community and involve the police. If it happened two weeks ago and the letter only when out, prompting the article, after people complained, that would be a problem. We just don't know.

And, while abhorrent, my read of the current law is that an arm movement would not qualify as a hate crime. Particularly if it wasn't done "at" someone with the intent to intimidate or threaten. Maybe it should, but it doesn't...


This goes on at the W's almost monthly and although you can find dozens of posts about it here nothing is ever done to change anything.

You keep posting about it but never provide a supporting source.


These incidents were well documented on this board. Just use the search function.

Talked about, sure, but not documented.


Search turns up

164 references to blackface & Whitman
81 references to N*word cards & Whitman

Seems well documented to me.

Two events?


And 90% of those references are the same poster bringing those two incidents up on a tangentially-relayed thread.
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2023 16:29     Subject: Re:Antisemitic incident at Blair

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Re "sweeping it under the rug": Seems to me that this depends on something the article and letter do not address: WHEN did the incident occur? If it happened Thursday or Friday, seems like this was swift appropriate action to notify the community and involve the police. If it happened two weeks ago and the letter only when out, prompting the article, after people complained, that would be a problem. We just don't know.

And, while abhorrent, my read of the current law is that an arm movement would not qualify as a hate crime. Particularly if it wasn't done "at" someone with the intent to intimidate or threaten. Maybe it should, but it doesn't...


This goes on at the W's almost monthly and although you can find dozens of posts about it here nothing is ever done to change anything.

You keep posting about it but never provide a supporting source.


These incidents were well documented on this board. Just use the search function.

Talked about, sure, but not documented.


Search turns up

164 references to blackface & Whitman
81 references to N*word cards & Whitman

Seems well documented to me.

Two events?
PP compulsively posts about the W schools. They probably live in some hovel in Wheaton and are burning with jealousy.
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2023 16:21     Subject: Re:Antisemitic incident at Blair

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Re "sweeping it under the rug": Seems to me that this depends on something the article and letter do not address: WHEN did the incident occur? If it happened Thursday or Friday, seems like this was swift appropriate action to notify the community and involve the police. If it happened two weeks ago and the letter only when out, prompting the article, after people complained, that would be a problem. We just don't know.

And, while abhorrent, my read of the current law is that an arm movement would not qualify as a hate crime. Particularly if it wasn't done "at" someone with the intent to intimidate or threaten. Maybe it should, but it doesn't...


It was conveniently done around the Jewish holidays. Kids behave this way as the adults either don’t care or encourage it. If it was done to other groups mcps would take a stand. But hate is ok to Jews, Asians and Muslims.


This doesn't address my point or my question? If this happened on Friday, what would you really expect to have been done more or different by Sunday?


I would expect the kids to be suspended, especially given the timing around the holidays. You seriously think this is ok?


If it happened on Friday at lunch and today is Sunday- do you think a suspension could be effected in that time and that the general public would know about it?


This is MCPS. Those kids won’t be suspended.


Maybe not. But with the ambiguity around timing I don’t see any evidence of “sweeping it under the rug”. And it seems silly to get pre-mad about what consequences will or will not occur. It also seems like focusing on the wrong thing. Seems to me we should be talking about the students who did it (and maybe their parents).


With all the W school incidents, did any of them get suspended?


I don't know.

And my point is that we'll see what consequences the students receive and can debate the appropriateness at that time.

Maybe now the outrage should be about what these kids DID, as opposed to getting pre-mad about how the school district may or may not react (other than sending a letter to parents and contacting the police)


+100

From the beginning of this thread, some folks seemed absolutely committed to the narrative that no one cares, nothing will be done, MCPS doesn't care about Jews, etc.

This despite the fact that the principal took it seriously, sent out an all-school email, and involved law enforcement. Also despite the fact that the letter specifically called out anti-semitism and included links to sites dealing explicitly with anti-Jewish hate.

Look, I know that generational trauma makes people skeptical, but MCPS has done everything one could have expected at this point. Insisting that "no one cares about the Jews" is patently false in general, and demonstrably false in this specific case based on the evidence right in front of us.

Getting mad because the students who did this have not yet been executed in a public square is not helpful or productive.


This is a cover up. What consequences did those students get? What is mcps doing to make Jewish students feel safe? More horrifying is the timing with the holidays.


How it is a cover up? Please explain. Who is "covering up" what?
And what consequences do you really think those kids would have already received AND the general public would know about, if it happened on Thursday or Friday?

Lastly, what suggestions do you have for what more MCPS could be doing?


Nothing happened to those kids. They should be suspended.


How do you know nothing happened to those kids?
And do you think a suspension would be determined, processed and broadly publicized in under a day?


Mcps would have announced it to make an example of them.

FERPA keeps many incidents under wraps. Sorry.


They post the ones important to them. They are hiding most. This is very upsetting especially when it’s at the holidays.
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2023 16:15     Subject: Re:Antisemitic incident at Blair

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Re "sweeping it under the rug": Seems to me that this depends on something the article and letter do not address: WHEN did the incident occur? If it happened Thursday or Friday, seems like this was swift appropriate action to notify the community and involve the police. If it happened two weeks ago and the letter only when out, prompting the article, after people complained, that would be a problem. We just don't know.

And, while abhorrent, my read of the current law is that an arm movement would not qualify as a hate crime. Particularly if it wasn't done "at" someone with the intent to intimidate or threaten. Maybe it should, but it doesn't...


It was conveniently done around the Jewish holidays. Kids behave this way as the adults either don’t care or encourage it. If it was done to other groups mcps would take a stand. But hate is ok to Jews, Asians and Muslims.


This doesn't address my point or my question? If this happened on Friday, what would you really expect to have been done more or different by Sunday?


I would expect the kids to be suspended, especially given the timing around the holidays. You seriously think this is ok?


If it happened on Friday at lunch and today is Sunday- do you think a suspension could be effected in that time and that the general public would know about it?


This is MCPS. Those kids won’t be suspended.


Maybe not. But with the ambiguity around timing I don’t see any evidence of “sweeping it under the rug”. And it seems silly to get pre-mad about what consequences will or will not occur. It also seems like focusing on the wrong thing. Seems to me we should be talking about the students who did it (and maybe their parents).


With all the W school incidents, did any of them get suspended?


I don't know.

And my point is that we'll see what consequences the students receive and can debate the appropriateness at that time.

Maybe now the outrage should be about what these kids DID, as opposed to getting pre-mad about how the school district may or may not react (other than sending a letter to parents and contacting the police)


+100

From the beginning of this thread, some folks seemed absolutely committed to the narrative that no one cares, nothing will be done, MCPS doesn't care about Jews, etc.

This despite the fact that the principal took it seriously, sent out an all-school email, and involved law enforcement. Also despite the fact that the letter specifically called out anti-semitism and included links to sites dealing explicitly with anti-Jewish hate.

Look, I know that generational trauma makes people skeptical, but MCPS has done everything one could have expected at this point. Insisting that "no one cares about the Jews" is patently false in general, and demonstrably false in this specific case based on the evidence right in front of us.

Getting mad because the students who did this have not yet been executed in a public square is not helpful or productive.


This is a cover up. What consequences did those students get? What is mcps doing to make Jewish students feel safe? More horrifying is the timing with the holidays.


How it is a cover up? Please explain. Who is "covering up" what?
And what consequences do you really think those kids would have already received AND the general public would know about, if it happened on Thursday or Friday?

Lastly, what suggestions do you have for what more MCPS could be doing?


Nothing happened to those kids. They should be suspended.


How do you know nothing happened to those kids?
And do you think a suspension would be determined, processed and broadly publicized in under a day?


Mcps would have announced it to make an example of them.

FERPA keeps many incidents under wraps. Sorry.
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2023 16:10     Subject: Re:Antisemitic incident at Blair

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Re "sweeping it under the rug": Seems to me that this depends on something the article and letter do not address: WHEN did the incident occur? If it happened Thursday or Friday, seems like this was swift appropriate action to notify the community and involve the police. If it happened two weeks ago and the letter only when out, prompting the article, after people complained, that would be a problem. We just don't know.

And, while abhorrent, my read of the current law is that an arm movement would not qualify as a hate crime. Particularly if it wasn't done "at" someone with the intent to intimidate or threaten. Maybe it should, but it doesn't...


It was conveniently done around the Jewish holidays. Kids behave this way as the adults either don’t care or encourage it. If it was done to other groups mcps would take a stand. But hate is ok to Jews, Asians and Muslims.


This doesn't address my point or my question? If this happened on Friday, what would you really expect to have been done more or different by Sunday?


I would expect the kids to be suspended, especially given the timing around the holidays. You seriously think this is ok?


If it happened on Friday at lunch and today is Sunday- do you think a suspension could be effected in that time and that the general public would know about it?


This is MCPS. Those kids won’t be suspended.


Maybe not. But with the ambiguity around timing I don’t see any evidence of “sweeping it under the rug”. And it seems silly to get pre-mad about what consequences will or will not occur. It also seems like focusing on the wrong thing. Seems to me we should be talking about the students who did it (and maybe their parents).


With all the W school incidents, did any of them get suspended?


I don't know.

And my point is that we'll see what consequences the students receive and can debate the appropriateness at that time.

Maybe now the outrage should be about what these kids DID, as opposed to getting pre-mad about how the school district may or may not react (other than sending a letter to parents and contacting the police)


+100

From the beginning of this thread, some folks seemed absolutely committed to the narrative that no one cares, nothing will be done, MCPS doesn't care about Jews, etc.

This despite the fact that the principal took it seriously, sent out an all-school email, and involved law enforcement. Also despite the fact that the letter specifically called out anti-semitism and included links to sites dealing explicitly with anti-Jewish hate.

Look, I know that generational trauma makes people skeptical, but MCPS has done everything one could have expected at this point. Insisting that "no one cares about the Jews" is patently false in general, and demonstrably false in this specific case based on the evidence right in front of us.

Getting mad because the students who did this have not yet been executed in a public square is not helpful or productive.


This is a cover up. What consequences did those students get? What is mcps doing to make Jewish students feel safe? More horrifying is the timing with the holidays.


How it is a cover up? Please explain. Who is "covering up" what?
And what consequences do you really think those kids would have already received AND the general public would know about, if it happened on Thursday or Friday?

Lastly, what suggestions do you have for what more MCPS could be doing?


Nothing happened to those kids. They should be suspended.


How do you know nothing happened to those kids?
And do you think a suspension would be determined, processed and broadly publicized in under a day?


Mcps would have announced it to make an example of them.
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2023 16:07     Subject: Antisemitic incident at Blair

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Anonymous wrote:I guess PP doesn’t realize that nearly 2 million non-Jew Polish were killed by the Nazis.

It’s shameful how little many know about WWII.


saying that the Nazi salute is anti-semitic does not indicate a lack of knowledge about WWII.


No one said it did. Describing it as an antisemitic salute rather than a Nazi salute is a different issue. Do you even understand how it was used? And while we’re at it, Nazis are overall white suprematists. Not only did they advocate for a master race it was for white individuals with certain traits, while eradicating “lesser” individuals or traits.

What would your reaction be if the letter had described the Hitler salute as a white supremacist salute? Because that’s arguably just as accurate if not more so. That it was described as antisemitic suggests there was more to it than has been shared.


yet here you are, trying to argue that there’s something wrong about saying the Nazi salute is anti-semitic.

you or someone like you has made this argument more than once on DCUM and it is quite offensive.


Seems you have some comprehension problems. No one absolutely NO ONE has said that it’s not antisemitic. It is antisemitic but it’s also white supremicist, racist, homophobic etc. The adjective most frequently and accurately used is fascist. It’s a fascist salute and symbol.
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2023 16:05     Subject: Re:Antisemitic incident at Blair

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Re "sweeping it under the rug": Seems to me that this depends on something the article and letter do not address: WHEN did the incident occur? If it happened Thursday or Friday, seems like this was swift appropriate action to notify the community and involve the police. If it happened two weeks ago and the letter only when out, prompting the article, after people complained, that would be a problem. We just don't know.

And, while abhorrent, my read of the current law is that an arm movement would not qualify as a hate crime. Particularly if it wasn't done "at" someone with the intent to intimidate or threaten. Maybe it should, but it doesn't...


It was conveniently done around the Jewish holidays. Kids behave this way as the adults either don’t care or encourage it. If it was done to other groups mcps would take a stand. But hate is ok to Jews, Asians and Muslims.


This doesn't address my point or my question? If this happened on Friday, what would you really expect to have been done more or different by Sunday?


I would expect the kids to be suspended, especially given the timing around the holidays. You seriously think this is ok?


If it happened on Friday at lunch and today is Sunday- do you think a suspension could be effected in that time and that the general public would know about it?


This is MCPS. Those kids won’t be suspended.


Maybe not. But with the ambiguity around timing I don’t see any evidence of “sweeping it under the rug”. And it seems silly to get pre-mad about what consequences will or will not occur. It also seems like focusing on the wrong thing. Seems to me we should be talking about the students who did it (and maybe their parents).


With all the W school incidents, did any of them get suspended?


I don't know.

And my point is that we'll see what consequences the students receive and can debate the appropriateness at that time.

Maybe now the outrage should be about what these kids DID, as opposed to getting pre-mad about how the school district may or may not react (other than sending a letter to parents and contacting the police)


+100

From the beginning of this thread, some folks seemed absolutely committed to the narrative that no one cares, nothing will be done, MCPS doesn't care about Jews, etc.

This despite the fact that the principal took it seriously, sent out an all-school email, and involved law enforcement. Also despite the fact that the letter specifically called out anti-semitism and included links to sites dealing explicitly with anti-Jewish hate.

Look, I know that generational trauma makes people skeptical, but MCPS has done everything one could have expected at this point. Insisting that "no one cares about the Jews" is patently false in general, and demonstrably false in this specific case based on the evidence right in front of us.

Getting mad because the students who did this have not yet been executed in a public square is not helpful or productive.


This is a cover up. What consequences did those students get? What is mcps doing to make Jewish students feel safe? More horrifying is the timing with the holidays.


How it is a cover up? Please explain. Who is "covering up" what?
And what consequences do you really think those kids would have already received AND the general public would know about, if it happened on Thursday or Friday?

Lastly, what suggestions do you have for what more MCPS could be doing?


Nothing happened to those kids. They should be suspended.


How do you know nothing happened to those kids?
And do you think a suspension would be determined, processed and broadly publicized in under a day?
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2023 15:54     Subject: Re:Antisemitic incident at Blair

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Re "sweeping it under the rug": Seems to me that this depends on something the article and letter do not address: WHEN did the incident occur? If it happened Thursday or Friday, seems like this was swift appropriate action to notify the community and involve the police. If it happened two weeks ago and the letter only when out, prompting the article, after people complained, that would be a problem. We just don't know.

And, while abhorrent, my read of the current law is that an arm movement would not qualify as a hate crime. Particularly if it wasn't done "at" someone with the intent to intimidate or threaten. Maybe it should, but it doesn't...


This goes on at the W's almost monthly and although you can find dozens of posts about it here nothing is ever done to change anything.

You keep posting about it but never provide a supporting source.


These incidents were well documented on this board. Just use the search function.

Talked about, sure, but not documented.


Search turns up

164 references to blackface & Whitman
81 references to N*word cards & Whitman

Seems well documented to me.

Two events?
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2023 15:43     Subject: Antisemitic incident at Blair

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I guess PP doesn’t realize that nearly 2 million non-Jew Polish were killed by the Nazis.

It’s shameful how little many know about WWII.


saying that the Nazi salute is anti-semitic does not indicate a lack of knowledge about WWII.


No one said it did. Describing it as an antisemitic salute rather than a Nazi salute is a different issue. Do you even understand how it was used? And while we’re at it, Nazis are overall white suprematists. Not only did they advocate for a master race it was for white individuals with certain traits, while eradicating “lesser” individuals or traits.

What would your reaction be if the letter had described the Hitler salute as a white supremacist salute? Because that’s arguably just as accurate if not more so. That it was described as antisemitic suggests there was more to it than has been shared.


yet here you are, trying to argue that there’s something wrong about saying the Nazi salute is anti-semitic.

you or someone like you has made this argument more than once on DCUM and it is quite offensive.
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2023 15:43     Subject: Re:Antisemitic incident at Blair

Anonymous wrote:
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Re "sweeping it under the rug": Seems to me that this depends on something the article and letter do not address: WHEN did the incident occur? If it happened Thursday or Friday, seems like this was swift appropriate action to notify the community and involve the police. If it happened two weeks ago and the letter only when out, prompting the article, after people complained, that would be a problem. We just don't know.

And, while abhorrent, my read of the current law is that an arm movement would not qualify as a hate crime. Particularly if it wasn't done "at" someone with the intent to intimidate or threaten. Maybe it should, but it doesn't...


It was conveniently done around the Jewish holidays. Kids behave this way as the adults either don’t care or encourage it. If it was done to other groups mcps would take a stand. But hate is ok to Jews, Asians and Muslims.


This doesn't address my point or my question? If this happened on Friday, what would you really expect to have been done more or different by Sunday?


I would expect the kids to be suspended, especially given the timing around the holidays. You seriously think this is ok?


If it happened on Friday at lunch and today is Sunday- do you think a suspension could be effected in that time and that the general public would know about it?


This is MCPS. Those kids won’t be suspended.


Maybe not. But with the ambiguity around timing I don’t see any evidence of “sweeping it under the rug”. And it seems silly to get pre-mad about what consequences will or will not occur. It also seems like focusing on the wrong thing. Seems to me we should be talking about the students who did it (and maybe their parents).


With all the W school incidents, did any of them get suspended?


I don't know.

And my point is that we'll see what consequences the students receive and can debate the appropriateness at that time.

Maybe now the outrage should be about what these kids DID, as opposed to getting pre-mad about how the school district may or may not react (other than sending a letter to parents and contacting the police)


+100

From the beginning of this thread, some folks seemed absolutely committed to the narrative that no one cares, nothing will be done, MCPS doesn't care about Jews, etc.

This despite the fact that the principal took it seriously, sent out an all-school email, and involved law enforcement. Also despite the fact that the letter specifically called out anti-semitism and included links to sites dealing explicitly with anti-Jewish hate.

Look, I know that generational trauma makes people skeptical, but MCPS has done everything one could have expected at this point. Insisting that "no one cares about the Jews" is patently false in general, and demonstrably false in this specific case based on the evidence right in front of us.

Getting mad because the students who did this have not yet been executed in a public square is not helpful or productive.


This is a cover up. What consequences did those students get? What is mcps doing to make Jewish students feel safe? More horrifying is the timing with the holidays.

Please, please remove your tinfoil hat.


Let me guess. It was one of your kids who did this.


Is that the best you’ve got?
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2023 15:39     Subject: Re:Antisemitic incident at Blair

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Re "sweeping it under the rug": Seems to me that this depends on something the article and letter do not address: WHEN did the incident occur? If it happened Thursday or Friday, seems like this was swift appropriate action to notify the community and involve the police. If it happened two weeks ago and the letter only when out, prompting the article, after people complained, that would be a problem. We just don't know.

And, while abhorrent, my read of the current law is that an arm movement would not qualify as a hate crime. Particularly if it wasn't done "at" someone with the intent to intimidate or threaten. Maybe it should, but it doesn't...


It was conveniently done around the Jewish holidays. Kids behave this way as the adults either don’t care or encourage it. If it was done to other groups mcps would take a stand. But hate is ok to Jews, Asians and Muslims.


This doesn't address my point or my question? If this happened on Friday, what would you really expect to have been done more or different by Sunday?


I would expect the kids to be suspended, especially given the timing around the holidays. You seriously think this is ok?


If it happened on Friday at lunch and today is Sunday- do you think a suspension could be effected in that time and that the general public would know about it?


This is MCPS. Those kids won’t be suspended.


Maybe not. But with the ambiguity around timing I don’t see any evidence of “sweeping it under the rug”. And it seems silly to get pre-mad about what consequences will or will not occur. It also seems like focusing on the wrong thing. Seems to me we should be talking about the students who did it (and maybe their parents).


With all the W school incidents, did any of them get suspended?


I don't know.

And my point is that we'll see what consequences the students receive and can debate the appropriateness at that time.

Maybe now the outrage should be about what these kids DID, as opposed to getting pre-mad about how the school district may or may not react (other than sending a letter to parents and contacting the police)


+100

From the beginning of this thread, some folks seemed absolutely committed to the narrative that no one cares, nothing will be done, MCPS doesn't care about Jews, etc.

This despite the fact that the principal took it seriously, sent out an all-school email, and involved law enforcement. Also despite the fact that the letter specifically called out anti-semitism and included links to sites dealing explicitly with anti-Jewish hate.

Look, I know that generational trauma makes people skeptical, but MCPS has done everything one could have expected at this point. Insisting that "no one cares about the Jews" is patently false in general, and demonstrably false in this specific case based on the evidence right in front of us.

Getting mad because the students who did this have not yet been executed in a public square is not helpful or productive.


This is a cover up. What consequences did those students get? What is mcps doing to make Jewish students feel safe? More horrifying is the timing with the holidays.

Please, please remove your tinfoil hat.


Let me guess. It was one of your kids who did this.
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2023 15:39     Subject: Re:Antisemitic incident at Blair

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Re "sweeping it under the rug": Seems to me that this depends on something the article and letter do not address: WHEN did the incident occur? If it happened Thursday or Friday, seems like this was swift appropriate action to notify the community and involve the police. If it happened two weeks ago and the letter only when out, prompting the article, after people complained, that would be a problem. We just don't know.

And, while abhorrent, my read of the current law is that an arm movement would not qualify as a hate crime. Particularly if it wasn't done "at" someone with the intent to intimidate or threaten. Maybe it should, but it doesn't...


It was conveniently done around the Jewish holidays. Kids behave this way as the adults either don’t care or encourage it. If it was done to other groups mcps would take a stand. But hate is ok to Jews, Asians and Muslims.


This doesn't address my point or my question? If this happened on Friday, what would you really expect to have been done more or different by Sunday?


I would expect the kids to be suspended, especially given the timing around the holidays. You seriously think this is ok?


If it happened on Friday at lunch and today is Sunday- do you think a suspension could be effected in that time and that the general public would know about it?


This is MCPS. Those kids won’t be suspended.


Maybe not. But with the ambiguity around timing I don’t see any evidence of “sweeping it under the rug”. And it seems silly to get pre-mad about what consequences will or will not occur. It also seems like focusing on the wrong thing. Seems to me we should be talking about the students who did it (and maybe their parents).


With all the W school incidents, did any of them get suspended?


I don't know.

And my point is that we'll see what consequences the students receive and can debate the appropriateness at that time.

Maybe now the outrage should be about what these kids DID, as opposed to getting pre-mad about how the school district may or may not react (other than sending a letter to parents and contacting the police)


+100

From the beginning of this thread, some folks seemed absolutely committed to the narrative that no one cares, nothing will be done, MCPS doesn't care about Jews, etc.

This despite the fact that the principal took it seriously, sent out an all-school email, and involved law enforcement. Also despite the fact that the letter specifically called out anti-semitism and included links to sites dealing explicitly with anti-Jewish hate.

Look, I know that generational trauma makes people skeptical, but MCPS has done everything one could have expected at this point. Insisting that "no one cares about the Jews" is patently false in general, and demonstrably false in this specific case based on the evidence right in front of us.

Getting mad because the students who did this have not yet been executed in a public square is not helpful or productive.


This is a cover up. What consequences did those students get? What is mcps doing to make Jewish students feel safe? More horrifying is the timing with the holidays.


How it is a cover up? Please explain. Who is "covering up" what?
And what consequences do you really think those kids would have already received AND the general public would know about, if it happened on Thursday or Friday?

Lastly, what suggestions do you have for what more MCPS could be doing?


Nothing happened to those kids. They should be suspended.
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2023 15:21     Subject: Re:Antisemitic incident at Blair

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Re "sweeping it under the rug": Seems to me that this depends on something the article and letter do not address: WHEN did the incident occur? If it happened Thursday or Friday, seems like this was swift appropriate action to notify the community and involve the police. If it happened two weeks ago and the letter only when out, prompting the article, after people complained, that would be a problem. We just don't know.

And, while abhorrent, my read of the current law is that an arm movement would not qualify as a hate crime. Particularly if it wasn't done "at" someone with the intent to intimidate or threaten. Maybe it should, but it doesn't...


This goes on at the W's almost monthly and although you can find dozens of posts about it here nothing is ever done to change anything.

You keep posting about it but never provide a supporting source.


These incidents were well documented on this board. Just use the search function.

Talked about, sure, but not documented.


Search turns up

164 references to blackface & Whitman
81 references to N*word cards & Whitman

Seems well documented to me.
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2023 15:19     Subject: Re:Antisemitic incident at Blair

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Re "sweeping it under the rug": Seems to me that this depends on something the article and letter do not address: WHEN did the incident occur? If it happened Thursday or Friday, seems like this was swift appropriate action to notify the community and involve the police. If it happened two weeks ago and the letter only when out, prompting the article, after people complained, that would be a problem. We just don't know.

And, while abhorrent, my read of the current law is that an arm movement would not qualify as a hate crime. Particularly if it wasn't done "at" someone with the intent to intimidate or threaten. Maybe it should, but it doesn't...


This goes on at the W's almost monthly and although you can find dozens of posts about it here nothing is ever done to change anything.

You keep posting about it but never provide a supporting source.


These incidents were well documented on this board. Just use the search function.

Talked about, sure, but not documented.
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2023 15:18     Subject: Re:Antisemitic incident at Blair

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Re "sweeping it under the rug": Seems to me that this depends on something the article and letter do not address: WHEN did the incident occur? If it happened Thursday or Friday, seems like this was swift appropriate action to notify the community and involve the police. If it happened two weeks ago and the letter only when out, prompting the article, after people complained, that would be a problem. We just don't know.

And, while abhorrent, my read of the current law is that an arm movement would not qualify as a hate crime. Particularly if it wasn't done "at" someone with the intent to intimidate or threaten. Maybe it should, but it doesn't...


This goes on at the W's almost monthly and although you can find dozens of posts about it here nothing is ever done to change anything.

You keep posting about it but never provide a supporting source.


These incidents were well documented on this board. Just use the search function.