Anonymous wrote:I don’t mind tipping 22% for good service.

What gets me is that you have to ask for water, sometimes repeatedly, when sitting down at a restaurant. Why can’t water be automatic anymore? Don’t we all want water? It’s too free?

No, not everyone wants water. Only giving it to those who request it saves the water it costs to wash the glass.

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You have a lunch for two. The bill is $20. How hard is it to leave $25? What is the big deal?

It's not hard, but it's stupid. People here are complaining about supposed "tip inflation," not tipping in general. The expected tip in the USA for a sit-down restaurant (assuming average service) would be 15% ($3). If we allow that to creep up to a higher percentage, when will that end? The best service in the world isn't worth 25%.

There are people here complaining about having to tip at all. I do agree those screens at takeout counter that try and force you to add big tip are way out of line.
But, Luckily for servers most customers disagree with you about the amount to tip. 20% is standard. My example just added an extra dollar, it’s not necessary but it’s also not going to break me.

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Anonymous wrote:Amazing. A bunch of rich white professional and allegedly liberal women who purport to care complaining about leaving a few extra pennies as a tip.

The hypocrisy of DCUM is over the top.

I agree. What a ridiculous thing to whine about. It takes a small cheap person to complain about adding a few dollars for the people who served you. Their excuses are laughable.

You have a lunch for two. The bill is $20. How hard is it to leave $25? What is the big deal?

The big deal is that it’s my money, not yours. I want to keep it and spend it, save it, burn it. I want more money, just like you do. But you’re not entitled to my money for simply providing the service of scanning my kind bar and pouring a cup of drip coffee. Your beef is with your employer who’s business plan relies on you taking charity.

I don’t mind tipping 22% for good service.

What gets me is that you have to ask for water, sometimes repeatedly, when sitting down at a restaurant. Why can’t water be automatic anymore? Don’t we all want water? It’s too free?

Anonymous wrote:22=20 after credit card fee. Add in payroll taxes if you tip on a card 20 is 15.

So what? If you take taxes out of my income, it goes down too.

You have a lunch for two. The bill is $20. How hard is it to leave $25? What is the big deal?

It's not hard, but it's stupid. People here are complaining about supposed "tip inflation," not tipping in general. The expected tip in the USA for a sit-down restaurant (assuming average service) would be 15% ($3). If we allow that to creep up to a higher percentage, when will that end? The best service in the world isn't worth 25%.

Also, 20% after credit card fees would be 20.4%, not 22% of the order total.

Employers cannot deduct the credit card fee from tips paid to employees. Also, tips are always taxable, whether paid in cash or by credit card.

22=20 after credit card fee. Add in payroll taxes if you tip on a card 20 is 15.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm typically a lefty NPR listener, but a couple days ago I heard this piece they did that was so ridiculous in carrying water for the barista who has decided to make that his career.

https://www.npr.org/2023/07/17/1187275511/tipping-minimum-wage-tips-tip-screen

Absurd.

Dude featured in the story knows what 'verboten' means and how to use it in a sentence. Him being a barista is just pure laziness. Best quote "They subsidize lower prices by paying employees less," he says. "If you aren't tipping, you are taking advantage of that labor." idiot!

I don't see why he's somehow obligated to work in some white-collar job if he's (a) educated and (b) doesn't want to have his employer exploit him.

He's not. He can what he wants to do with his life. I take objection to his fake narrative - the owner is somehow subsidizing us, the customer, by paying low wages to his staff - and his appeal to us for more money - "if you aren't tipping, you are taking advantage of that labor".

His employer should absolutely NOT exploit him, but that's between him and the employer. Also, pro tip. No businessman is going to sell his product for cheap just because. Their primary focus is to strike the best balance between extracting as much as possible from customers but keep the pricing at a point where we keep going back. None of this "Oh, they stiff the employees to keep your prices low, so you need to tip the employees" BS.

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Anonymous wrote:The tip screen is a dangerous step. It’s getting closer and closer to the customer performing the entire checkout process.

I was just at a cafeteria without any cashiers. Just a touch screen to check out. Very few workers.

Self-checkouts have been a net loss for grocery stores so far. Higher costs for theft, tech and tech support/maintenance.

Good. Serves the greedy companies right.

A week ago I asked the barista to make me a cappuccino but he refused to do so as it was nearing closing time. I then picked up a cold coffee and handed the cash, which he refused because it was … almost closing time. So I paid with my card and did not tip him.
I got quite an attitude!!!

Anonymous wrote:The tip screen is a dangerous step. It’s getting closer and closer to the customer performing the entire checkout process.

I was just at a cafeteria without any cashiers. Just a touch screen to check out. Very few workers.

Self-checkouts have been a net loss for grocery stores so far. Higher costs for theft, tech and tech support/maintenance.

The tip screen is a dangerous step. It’s getting closer and closer to the customer performing the entire checkout process.

I was just at a cafeteria without any cashiers. Just a touch screen to check out. Very few workers.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm typically a lefty NPR listener, but a couple days ago I heard this piece they did that was so ridiculous in carrying water for the barista who has decided to make that his career.

https://www.npr.org/2023/07/17/1187275511/tipping-minimum-wage-tips-tip-screen

Absurd.

Dude featured in the story knows what 'verboten' means and how to use it in a sentence. Him being a barista is just pure laziness. Best quote "They subsidize lower prices by paying employees less," he says. "If you aren't tipping, you are taking advantage of that labor." idiot!

I don't see why he's somehow obligated to work in some white-collar job if he's (a) educated and (b) doesn't want to have his employer exploit him.