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Anonymous

07/08/2023 16:46 Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis

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Zero evidence of even 10% of conservatives
in your average college. ZERO.

Actually, your average college has even more conservatives than the higher ranking colleges. I worked for one.

At my former academic place of employment, I would say that at least 30-40% of the the School of Business and the Political Science / Sociology department were conservative. One of the sociology professors was known to hoard guns and checked out every single gun book we had in the college library. And about 20% of STEM professors. Three of the librarians and more of the support staff were conservative.

Most of the conservatives are real loudmouth blowhards when they aren't teaching, so it's not hard to identify them.

Anonymous

07/08/2023 15:02 Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis

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Zero evidence of even 10% of conservatives
in your average college. ZERO.

Probably because higher ed opens up minds.

Anonymous

07/08/2023 14:37 Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis

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Zero evidence of even 10% of conservatives
in your average college. ZERO.

Maybe conservatives don’t value scholarship and don’t wish to be in higher Ed? Maybe if a conservative is smart enough to be a scholar, they prefer to find waya to make money instead, given their general philosophy? Maybe as you more deeply study subjects - any subject - you become more open minded and liberal?

Anonymous

07/08/2023 13:58 Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis

Zero evidence of even 10% of conservatives
in your average college. ZERO.

Anonymous

07/08/2023 13:06 Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis

So now that we've let you know there "are* actually conservatives in universities, the right wing pps are resurrecting an Obama misstep from 2008 from 15+ years ago. Got it.

Anonymous

07/08/2023 11:04 Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis

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Anonymous wrote:No, Joe does nothing but act confused, aka elder abuse says my physician neighbor.

As has been pointed out, if you think JB is struggling, that mean a confused, struggling fool can beat DT good.

Rigged voting can beat anyone.

Give it a rest already. Here is a tip...try nominating a better candidate that can actually attract some votes.

Who else can get a least half the rally attendance as Trump?

Trump is dearly loved by a third of the country. That is an enormous army that cares for him like family. Unbelievable power.

Nobody loves Biden.

On the contrary. He protected the other two thirds from your deranged forced birther insurrectionist. Lots of love.

On to another victory Joe!

We all know how this movie ends...we all watched it in 2020.

Anonymous

07/08/2023 10:27 Subject: Re:professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder why U Florida is doing so well in the rankings then? Someone must want to teach there.

Florida was doing so well (in attracting top tier STEM profs). They went on a massive hiring spree. They started some excellent programs. Their rankings went up. The results of the new laws will take some time to show up. Maybe there’ll be no effect. But I doubt it.

It is very difficult to get jobs at UF that are not OPS (temporary) jobs. OPS workers try really hard to become permanent workers, i.e. tenured professors. You really have to know someone to get hired at UF. I was rejected because I did not have an Ivy degree. I was told that. I know professors at UF and don't see/hear of anyone leaving UF with the exception of some minority hires that are recruited away with big big money. Qualified African American coaches and professors are in big demand at southern colleges. I know one African American American coach who was recruited by a college in Mississippi three times. Each time she was offered big money. Each time she turned down the offer. The money was too big for the coach to turn down the offer the fourth time and the coach moved to Mississippi.

Professors and coaches that are leaving are leaving are leaving due to monies offered or better opportunities.

When professors start having their speech censored, they will leave UF.

Every one now is hoping the courts will save them from DeSantis. What he has imposed is blatant censorship. He even has canceled majors he disagrees with.

This kind of stuff doesn't happen overnight.

I went to UF and loved it. But wouldn't send my kid there now.

Anonymous

07/07/2023 21:12 Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis

Anonymous wrote:George Mason, a publicly funded VA University has a libertarian think tank. Lots of graduates hired by the DOD and local contractors too.

The Mercatus Center is an American libertarian, free-market-oriented non-profit think tank located at George Mason University.

It's not 1967 anymore "liberal commie professor' posters. It's just that if you are intelligent enough be a university professor, you tend to be smart enough not to vote for demagogues like Trump or DeSantis, even if you are conservative.

Bingo

Anonymous

07/07/2023 17:29 Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis

George Mason, a publicly funded VA University has a libertarian think tank. Lots of graduates hired by the DOD and local contractors too.

The Mercatus Center is an American libertarian, free-market-oriented non-profit think tank located at George Mason University.

It's not 1967 anymore "liberal commie professor' posters. It's just that if you are intelligent enough be a university professor, you tend to be smart enough not to vote for demagogues like Trump or DeSantis, even if you are conservative.

Anonymous

07/07/2023 17:24 Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis

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Woke professors teach WHAT to think.
Intelligent professors teach HOW to think.

Florida does not need schools or colleges to indoctrinate its students with radical garbage. We have enough of that across America right now. What exactly is their end game?

Conservative professor here. Actually, there is plenty of indoctrination and telling people what to think on both sides. I would not want to teach in Florida, either.

Where, PP, are you allowed conservative academic freedom today?

There are traditional conservative professors everywhere, just not fascists or racists or delusional demagogues.

+100. My son is currently at GW and he says he has had several conservative professors.

Why not name names here??? IF this is true.

Eh, this is true. I worked in academe and there are many more conservative professors than you would think, they just don't tend to be fascists.

I'm a different pp, and wouldn't want to sick the MAGA fascists on regular conservative professors.

At this point, to be a professor, you either have to have a trust fund, a rich family, or eat ramen for the rest of your life paying back student loans. Which is why I left and found a better paying position.

Anonymous

07/07/2023 15:14 Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis

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Woke professors teach WHAT to think.
Intelligent professors teach HOW to think.

Florida does not need schools or colleges to indoctrinate its students with radical garbage. We have enough of that across America right now. What exactly is their end game?

Conservative professor here. Actually, there is plenty of indoctrination and telling people what to think on both sides. I would not want to teach in Florida, either.

In which institution exactly are you allowed conservative academic freedom?

As mentioned above, Jonathan Turley is the managing partner of MAGAlaw and he teaches at George Washington.

UPenn Law has that crazy anti-Asian immigration lady Amy Wax.

Ilya Shapiro quit Georgetown Law, he wasn’t fired.

John Eastman is at Chapman University Law.

The Federalist Society has a whole faculty division. They are at tons of different colleges and universities as you can see here:
https://fedsoc.org/conferences/24th-annual-federalist-society-faculty-conference

Anonymous

07/07/2023 14:59 Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis

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Woke professors teach WHAT to think.
Intelligent professors teach HOW to think.

Florida does not need schools or colleges to indoctrinate its students with radical garbage. We have enough of that across America right now. What exactly is their end game?

Conservative professor here. Actually, there is plenty of indoctrination and telling people what to think on both sides. I would not want to teach in Florida, either.

Where, PP, are you allowed conservative academic freedom today?

There are traditional conservative professors everywhere, just not fascists or racists or delusional demagogues.

+100. My son is currently at GW and he says he has had several conservative professors.

Why not name names here??? IF this is true.

Does Turley count?

Anonymous

07/07/2023 14:41 Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis

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Woke professors teach WHAT to think.
Intelligent professors teach HOW to think.

Florida does not need schools or colleges to indoctrinate its students with radical garbage. We have enough of that across America right now. What exactly is their end game?

Conservative professor here. Actually, there is plenty of indoctrination and telling people what to think on both sides. I would not want to teach in Florida, either.

Where, PP, are you allowed conservative academic freedom today?

There are traditional conservative professors everywhere, just not fascists or racists or delusional demagogues.

+100. My son is currently at GW and he says he has had several conservative professors.

Why not name names here??? IF this is true.

DP but why do you want to know their names? To harrass them?

Anonymous

07/07/2023 14:32 Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis

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Woke professors teach WHAT to think.
Intelligent professors teach HOW to think.

Florida does not need schools or colleges to indoctrinate its students with radical garbage. We have enough of that across America right now. What exactly is their end game?

Conservative professor here. Actually, there is plenty of indoctrination and telling people what to think on both sides. I would not want to teach in Florida, either.

Where, PP, are you allowed conservative academic freedom today?

There are traditional conservative professors everywhere, just not fascists or racists or delusional demagogues.

+100. My son is currently at GW and he says he has had several conservative professors.

Why not name names here??? IF this is true.

Anonymous

07/07/2023 13:28 Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis

With AI being cheaper, faster and more accessible seems like the “professor” career with be a dead end for most. Technology of many forms just renders it obsolete in many many cases