Anonymous
Post 04/25/2023 19:17     Subject: Re:Biden will run again

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Anonymous
Post 04/25/2023 19:16     Subject: Re:Biden will run again

Anonymous wrote:I am resigned to supporting Biden in 2024 but hopeful for a new generation to compete in 2028, including Wes Moore, Jon Ossoff, and Josh Shapiro.


I need to see Ossoff eviscerate someone else on the debate stage. When he said to that idiot, Perdue, “It’s not just that you’re a crook, senator…..” (facing him, looking directly in his eyes), he won me the hell over.

For anyone who missed it, here you go.

[youtube]https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjMg9TRlMb-AhVVF1kFHQJfAY0QtwJ6BAgXEAI&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D6xYFCDqI43M&usg=AOvVaw0kTfd-Uj861gHagvQiPKdP[/youtube]

[Black Buttigieg supprter]
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2023 19:01     Subject: Re:Biden will run again

I am resigned to supporting Biden in 2024 but hopeful for a new generation to compete in 2028, including Wes Moore, Jon Ossoff, and Josh Shapiro.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2023 18:53     Subject: Biden will run again

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Anonymous wrote:He is running and he will win. And he will likely retire one to two years into the term.

He has been a good president, certainly better than the last one, and if Trump wins the GOP nomination, which is likely, then it will basically be a choice betweenFascism and Democracy.


And Kamala would become the Prez after he retires?! No!


I hope he picks a new running mate


Also from a Dem: this is the *worst* idea. Even if someone would vote for him again no one will want her as actual President. I don’t even want him again as President. This opens the door to truly scary right wing choices.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2023 18:49     Subject: Biden will run again

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Anonymous wrote:Well I'm voting Trump (or whomever the Rep nominee is). I love how everyone on DCUM seems to think "we" all vote the same way.

"We" don't.

Anyone but Joe.


Seriously, what do you see in him?


Guns baby. Guns guns guns guns guns
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2023 18:46     Subject: Biden will run again

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Anonymous wrote:Who else would run for the Ds at this point?


Whitmer, Newsom, Buttigieg


Yes. Or…..

Jon Ossoff
Raphael Warnock
Lauren Underwood
Joe Nguse

There are others.

Dems have a deep bench. People who ask dumb questions like the first PPs don’t even bother to look at options. Lazy AF.


Buttigieg is never going to be president. Not because he's gay but because he doesn't connect with enough voters.

I am pinning a lot of future hope on Whitmer. But she hasn't been tested on a national stage yet. I hope once she is, she holds up.

Warnock is another who I think has loads of national potential. We will see. 2028 is coming.

Not one of these candidates is ready to take over from Biden today.

(I used to work with Nguse's wife! That's just a small world thing.)


All of them could…. If the 80-year-old would effing retire.

Also, Pete appeals to many democrats and republicans. He’s damn good at reaching the Fox-addled brains of republicans….and, yes, he has Black appeal, too. Don’t repeat old-media tropes to me.

I’ve been a (Black) Buttigieg supporter for four years now.

[PP]
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2023 18:45     Subject: Biden will run again

Anonymous wrote:Well I'm voting Trump (or whomever the Rep nominee is). I love how everyone on DCUM seems to think "we" all vote the same way.

"We" don't.

Anyone but Joe.


Seriously, what do you see in him?
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2023 18:32     Subject: Biden will run again

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Anonymous wrote:Since Joe has taken office, I've gone days, even weeks at a time without thinking about the White House. I know it's selfish of me not to think of the bottom lines of media companies, but frankly it has been a relief. Just quiet, boring competence.


While I agree - and thanks for the reminder - I think it is stunning that there is not a younger person ready to be embraced by Biden and all Democrats. Having campaigned for Biden after Pete bowed out, I am disappointed. No slight to Biden - he’s been great, but this is ridiculous. I think a strong third party candidate will emerge.


I'm from Indiana and a huge Pete supporter. I still support him. But the Bernie supporters absolutely savaged Buttigieg. Lost their goddamn minds. That's part of how Biden rose to the top. (Biden's long and deep connections with Black politicians were more of a factor I think.) With Biden having decided he's going to run for another term, the Democrats basically lost their opportunity to support a young politician (whether that was Buttigieg or otherwise) for eight years back in 2019-2020. Honestly, Biden has been better than I expected. A much more deft politician than I anticipated and governed further to the left than any President since probably Carter. Maybe LBJ.


Hopefully Biden will okay one of the Amtrak connects proposals for a certain area that I know was submitted
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2023 18:19     Subject: Biden will run again

Well I'm voting Trump (or whomever the Rep nominee is). I love how everyone on DCUM seems to think "we" all vote the same way.

"We" don't.

Anyone but Joe.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2023 17:56     Subject: Re:Biden will run again

Anonymous wrote:So happy to see this!


Oh phew, thank the gods.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2023 17:35     Subject: Biden will run again

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Since Joe has taken office, I've gone days, even weeks at a time without thinking about the White House. I know it's selfish of me not to think of the bottom lines of media companies, but frankly it has been a relief. Just quiet, boring competence.


While I agree - and thanks for the reminder - I think it is stunning that there is not a younger person ready to be embraced by Biden and all Democrats. Having campaigned for Biden after Pete bowed out, I am disappointed. No slight to Biden - he’s been great, but this is ridiculous. I think a strong third party candidate will emerge.


I'm from Indiana and a huge Pete supporter. I still support him. But the Bernie supporters absolutely savaged Buttigieg. Lost their goddamn minds. That's part of how Biden rose to the top. (Biden's long and deep connections with Black politicians were more of a factor I think.) With Biden having decided he's going to run for another term, the Democrats basically lost their opportunity to support a young politician (whether that was Buttigieg or otherwise) for eight years back in 2019-2020. Honestly, Biden has been better than I expected. A much more deft politician than I anticipated and governed further to the left than any President since probably Carter. Maybe LBJ.


Another Rules of the Road follower here. I agree, but it is still a damn shame. And Pete stabbed himself by stealing Biden’s infrastructure thunder. Yeah, I remember Pete’s infrastructure plan. But Pete really blew any chance he had - read the new Time cover story.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2023 17:34     Subject: Biden will run again

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Anonymous wrote:It's truly disheartening, but not surprising since he's an egomaniac. He told Hilary he would have beat Trump in 2016, uh no. How rude to say that to someone who had millions more popular vote.

GenZ seems to be fixated on Trump. My never-in-a-million-years-will-i-be-political kid, is all up in Trump's legal woes. Also, on NYT there is a convo with GenZ liberal women on mental health and politics, and they were all following Trump's legal morass. Much more so than me or any of my friends.
They're astonished and afraid he'll run (and win) from prison.


I haven't read about him saying that to Hillary, and it doesn't sound like the Uncle Joe we know. But he probably would have beaten Trump in 2016.

It's not just Gen Z fixated on Trump. It's a lot of us who are shocked and appalled about how the party that previously only demanded we all believe in flat earths and creationism and taking away women's rights and healthcare for as many people as possibly, could have become even more stupid and cruel. We've seen how bad it can get. Stop the bleeding, then you can work on everything else.



The uncle Joe bit was a facade and a thin one at that. He isn’t particularly nice to the press and has a history of being kind of an elitist jerk. He went to an elite high school. He has definitely enriched himself and his entire family by currying favor with unsavory people like the Chinese. And so yes, I 100% believe he was a total jerk to Hillary. He is a jerk with an Aw shucks facade that is a total load of bs.


Well, it's him or Trump. And anyone who thinks there's an equivalence has definitely taken the brown acid.


Equivalence? No but those unwilling to acknowledge Biden’s flaws or those of the party will continue to wonder why people give him grief or not fully support him when he’s in office.


Here, let me solve your conundrum.

Trump - fascist career criminal who would happily destroy this country to make a buck
Biden - not Trump.

Vote accordingly.


Exhibit A of why we have lost membership and loyalty.


Can you explain this please? Because I have no idea WTH you’re talking about with “losing membership and loyalty”.

Who is this “we” you’re talking about?


Just because people may support Joe in the election doesn’t mean he will have won over the hearts and minds of independents who are the largest voting block. I meet so many jaded, disenfranchised, formerly rah-rah Dems, who hate trump. Some were Bernie Bros and others are just fed up and are looking for centrist candidates beyond &0 year olds.

Sorry but Independents are not the largest voting block. Moderate Dems maybe, but they won't vote for Trump over Biden. You I's think you are bigger than you are. YOu know WHO will be the biggest voting block in 2024 - Women who want to have a say on what we can do with our bodies and Gen Z. And they sure's heck ain't voting for a GOP.


"Independents" end up being fairly predictable on an individual level in terms of whether they vote Republican or Democrat. The main question is whether they bother to vote at all. There aren't a lot of them who go to the polls consistently but swing between R, D, or third party.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2023 17:31     Subject: Biden will run again

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Since Joe has taken office, I've gone days, even weeks at a time without thinking about the White House. I know it's selfish of me not to think of the bottom lines of media companies, but frankly it has been a relief. Just quiet, boring competence.


While I agree - and thanks for the reminder - I think it is stunning that there is not a younger person ready to be embraced by Biden and all Democrats. Having campaigned for Biden after Pete bowed out, I am disappointed. No slight to Biden - he’s been great, but this is ridiculous. I think a strong third party candidate will emerge.


I'm from Indiana and a huge Pete supporter. I still support him. But the Bernie supporters absolutely savaged Buttigieg. Lost their goddamn minds. That's part of how Biden rose to the top. (Biden's long and deep connections with Black politicians were more of a factor I think.) With Biden having decided he's going to run for another term, the Democrats basically lost their opportunity to support a young politician (whether that was Buttigieg or otherwise) for eight years back in 2019-2020. Honestly, Biden has been better than I expected. A much more deft politician than I anticipated and governed further to the left than any President since probably Carter. Maybe LBJ.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2023 17:26     Subject: Re:Biden will run again

So happy to see this!
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2023 17:25     Subject: Biden will run again

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:GOP has no response to the good that this Administraton has been so they literally release a video with fabiciations to scare people.



I can’t even bring myself to watch this.

Just the old hits strung together: Radical, crime, fentanyl. China invading Taiwan was a twist, not very America First. The little train coming off the tracks was cute.