Anonymous
04/12/2023 08:21
Subject: Re:Why do “YIMBY” urban planners, bloggers & activists constantly cite what they believe are
Anonymous wrote:Show me a “YIMBY” neighborhood with high-performing by-right schools.
We should base our land use and housing policies on standardized test scores in schools?
Anonymous
04/12/2023 08:21
Subject: Re:Why do “YIMBY” urban planners, bloggers & activists constantly cite what they believe are
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Friendly reminder that the suburbs DO generate economic activity. Every house in my neighborhood regularly hires tutors, cleaners, maintenance people (pool/yard/indoors), cooks, sports instructors and babysitters. People are constantly getting deliveries. Additionally, many people operate businesses operate businesses out of their homes, such as remote consulting firms and in-home daycares. We have restaurants & big box stores.
More people could operate businesses out of their homes if the zoning codes allowed it.
Why would neighbors want that?
Because neighbors are people who would be able to operate businesses out of their homes if the zoning codes allowed it, and/or might want to be customers of those businesses, and/or don't feel entitled to control how their neighbors use their property.
Do you own a home? Do you have kids? Do they go to public school?
What could that possibly have to do with whether this person’s neighbors should be allowed to open a hair salon?
I’m sure renters are fine with neighborhood hair salons. Homeowners, who can’t just pick up & leave when the neighbor’s business gets too loud, will not be.
I need a full-size moving truck to hold the assumptions contained in your use of the terms "renters", "neighborhood", "homeowner", "home", and "neighbor".
Anonymous
04/12/2023 08:08
Subject: Re:Why do “YIMBY” urban planners, bloggers & activists constantly cite what they believe are
Show me a “YIMBY” neighborhood with high-performing by-right schools.
Anonymous
04/12/2023 08:07
Subject: Re:Why do “YIMBY” urban planners, bloggers & activists constantly cite what they believe are
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Friendly reminder that the suburbs DO generate economic activity. Every house in my neighborhood regularly hires tutors, cleaners, maintenance people (pool/yard/indoors), cooks, sports instructors and babysitters. People are constantly getting deliveries. Additionally, many people operate businesses operate businesses out of their homes, such as remote consulting firms and in-home daycares. We have restaurants & big box stores.
More people could operate businesses out of their homes if the zoning codes allowed it.
Why would neighbors want that?
Because neighbors are people who would be able to operate businesses out of their homes if the zoning codes allowed it, and/or might want to be customers of those businesses, and/or don't feel entitled to control how their neighbors use their property.
Do you own a home? Do you have kids? Do they go to public school?
What could that possibly have to do with whether this person’s neighbors should be allowed to open a hair salon?
I’m sure renters are fine with neighborhood hair salons. Homeowners, who can’t just pick up & leave when the neighbor’s business gets too loud, will not be.
Anonymous
04/12/2023 08:04
Subject: Why do “YIMBY” urban planners, bloggers & activists constantly cite what they believe are
Anonymous
04/11/2023 23:25
Subject: Re:Why do “YIMBY” urban planners, bloggers & activists constantly cite what they believe are
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hate-read Reddit posts from “YIMBYs” who are dumbfounded as to why there aren’t more 24-hour bars & clubs.
Everybody needs a hobby, and if that's yours, then ok, I won't argue.
Generally YIMBYs are more concerned about housing than 24-hour bars, though.
PPs on here seem to want anyone to be allowed to operate businesses out of their houses, so they’re not just concerned about shelter.
I sure as heck don’t want random people in my neighborhood all day going to Mrs. Smith’s hair salon in her garage next to mine.
You don't want your neighbor to have a home-based hair salon, therefore it should be illegal for your neighbor to have a home-based hair salon? Well then.
Your right to swing ends where you hit my nose.
Based on that principle, you should not be allowed to drive your car, because it contributes to climate change and air pollution, both of which affect my quiet enjoyment of my property.
I don’t have a car. How will you punish me now?
Then this whole thing has been a bad-faith argument. You can't live in a suburban cul-de-sac with no sidewalks, no public transportation, and NO CAR. One of those things has to be a lie.
Anonymous
04/11/2023 20:49
Subject: Re:Why do “YIMBY” urban planners, bloggers & activists constantly cite what they believe are
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Friendly reminder that the suburbs DO generate economic activity. Every house in my neighborhood regularly hires tutors, cleaners, maintenance people (pool/yard/indoors), cooks, sports instructors and babysitters. People are constantly getting deliveries. Additionally, many people operate businesses operate businesses out of their homes, such as remote consulting firms and in-home daycares. We have restaurants & big box stores.
More people could operate businesses out of their homes if the zoning codes allowed it.
Why would neighbors want that?
Because neighbors are people who would be able to operate businesses out of their homes if the zoning codes allowed it, and/or might want to be customers of those businesses, and/or don't feel entitled to control how their neighbors use their property.
Do you own a home? Do you have kids? Do they go to public school?
What could that possibly have to do with whether this person’s neighbors should be allowed to open a hair salon?
Anonymous
04/11/2023 19:13
Subject: Why do “YIMBY” urban planners, bloggers & activists constantly cite what they believe are
Anonymous wrote:^^^Dufief, too. And Woodward. And Crown. And Seneca Valley. And Northwood.
Planners just can't help themselves. You know EVERYTHING. It must be a heavy burden to carry. Since you're so smart why do you think your recommendations haven't created more housing or more jobs? You didn't even think Thrive needed a section on jobs.
Anonymous
04/11/2023 14:39
Subject: Re:Why do “YIMBY” urban planners, bloggers & activists constantly cite what they believe are
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hate-read Reddit posts from “YIMBYs” who are dumbfounded as to why there aren’t more 24-hour bars & clubs.
Everybody needs a hobby, and if that's yours, then ok, I won't argue.
Generally YIMBYs are more concerned about housing than 24-hour bars, though.
PPs on here seem to want anyone to be allowed to operate businesses out of their houses, so they’re not just concerned about shelter.
I sure as heck don’t want random people in my neighborhood all day going to Mrs. Smith’s hair salon in her garage next to mine.
You don't want your neighbor to have a home-based hair salon, therefore it should be illegal for your neighbor to have a home-based hair salon? Well then.
Your right to swing ends where you hit my nose.
Based on that principle, you should not be allowed to drive your car, because it contributes to climate change and air pollution, both of which affect my quiet enjoyment of my property.
I don’t have a car. How will you punish me now?
Your neighbors do.
That doesn’t punish me. YIMBYs are so one dimensional.
Nobody has said anything about punishment. It wouldn't "punish" you if your neighbor had a home-based hair-salon. Punish you for what, anyway?
Anonymous
04/11/2023 14:07
Subject: Re:Why do “YIMBY” urban planners, bloggers & activists constantly cite what they believe are
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hate-read Reddit posts from “YIMBYs” who are dumbfounded as to why there aren’t more 24-hour bars & clubs.
Everybody needs a hobby, and if that's yours, then ok, I won't argue.
Generally YIMBYs are more concerned about housing than 24-hour bars, though.
PPs on here seem to want anyone to be allowed to operate businesses out of their houses, so they’re not just concerned about shelter.
I sure as heck don’t want random people in my neighborhood all day going to Mrs. Smith’s hair salon in her garage next to mine.
You don't want your neighbor to have a home-based hair salon, therefore it should be illegal for your neighbor to have a home-based hair salon? Well then.
Your right to swing ends where you hit my nose.
Based on that principle, you should not be allowed to drive your car, because it contributes to climate change and air pollution, both of which affect my quiet enjoyment of my property.
I don’t have a car. How will you punish me now?
Your neighbors do.
That doesn’t punish me. YIMBYs are so one dimensional.
Anonymous
04/11/2023 13:54
Subject: Re:Why do “YIMBY” urban planners, bloggers & activists constantly cite what they believe are
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hate-read Reddit posts from “YIMBYs” who are dumbfounded as to why there aren’t more 24-hour bars & clubs.
Everybody needs a hobby, and if that's yours, then ok, I won't argue.
Generally YIMBYs are more concerned about housing than 24-hour bars, though.
PPs on here seem to want anyone to be allowed to operate businesses out of their houses, so they’re not just concerned about shelter.
I sure as heck don’t want random people in my neighborhood all day going to Mrs. Smith’s hair salon in her garage next to mine.
You don't want your neighbor to have a home-based hair salon, therefore it should be illegal for your neighbor to have a home-based hair salon? Well then.
Your right to swing ends where you hit my nose.
Based on that principle, you should not be allowed to drive your car, because it contributes to climate change and air pollution, both of which affect my quiet enjoyment of my property.
I don’t have a car. How will you punish me now?
Your neighbors do.
Anonymous
04/11/2023 13:52
Subject: Re:Why do “YIMBY” urban planners, bloggers & activists constantly cite what they believe are
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hate-read Reddit posts from “YIMBYs” who are dumbfounded as to why there aren’t more 24-hour bars & clubs.
Everybody needs a hobby, and if that's yours, then ok, I won't argue.
Generally YIMBYs are more concerned about housing than 24-hour bars, though.
PPs on here seem to want anyone to be allowed to operate businesses out of their houses, so they’re not just concerned about shelter.
I sure as heck don’t want random people in my neighborhood all day going to Mrs. Smith’s hair salon in her garage next to mine.
You don't want your neighbor to have a home-based hair salon, therefore it should be illegal for your neighbor to have a home-based hair salon? Well then.
Your right to swing ends where you hit my nose.
Based on that principle, you should not be allowed to drive your car, because it contributes to climate change and air pollution, both of which affect my quiet enjoyment of my property.
I don’t have a car. How will you punish me now?
Anonymous
04/11/2023 10:35
Subject: Re:Why do “YIMBY” urban planners, bloggers & activists constantly cite what they believe are
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hate-read Reddit posts from “YIMBYs” who are dumbfounded as to why there aren’t more 24-hour bars & clubs.
Everybody needs a hobby, and if that's yours, then ok, I won't argue.
Generally YIMBYs are more concerned about housing than 24-hour bars, though.
PPs on here seem to want anyone to be allowed to operate businesses out of their houses, so they’re not just concerned about shelter.
I sure as heck don’t want random people in my neighborhood all day going to Mrs. Smith’s hair salon in her garage next to mine.
You don't want your neighbor to have a home-based hair salon, therefore it should be illegal for your neighbor to have a home-based hair salon? Well then.
Your right to swing ends where you hit my nose.
Based on that principle, you should not be allowed to drive your car, because it contributes to climate change and air pollution, both of which affect my quiet enjoyment of my property.
Anonymous
04/11/2023 10:30
Subject: Re:Why do “YIMBY” urban planners, bloggers & activists constantly cite what they believe are
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Friendly reminder that the suburbs DO generate economic activity. Every house in my neighborhood regularly hires tutors, cleaners, maintenance people (pool/yard/indoors), cooks, sports instructors and babysitters. People are constantly getting deliveries. Additionally, many people operate businesses operate businesses out of their homes, such as remote consulting firms and in-home daycares. We have restaurants & big box stores.
More people could operate businesses out of their homes if the zoning codes allowed it.
Why would neighbors want that?
Because neighbors are people who would be able to operate businesses out of their homes if the zoning codes allowed it, and/or might want to be customers of those businesses, and/or don't feel entitled to control how their neighbors use their property.
Do you own a home? Do you have kids? Do they go to public school?
Yes, I own a home. (It's even a detached single-family house!) Yes, I have kids. Yes, they go to public schools. Why does this matter?
Also, yes, I don't feel entitled to control how my neighbors use their property, and yes, my neighbors don't feel entitled to control how I use mine.
Anonymous
04/11/2023 10:28
Subject: Re:Why do “YIMBY” urban planners, bloggers & activists constantly cite what they believe are
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hate-read Reddit posts from “YIMBYs” who are dumbfounded as to why there aren’t more 24-hour bars & clubs.
Everybody needs a hobby, and if that's yours, then ok, I won't argue.
Generally YIMBYs are more concerned about housing than 24-hour bars, though.
PPs on here seem to want anyone to be allowed to operate businesses out of their houses, so they’re not just concerned about shelter.
I sure as heck don’t want random people in my neighborhood all day going to Mrs. Smith’s hair salon in her garage next to mine.
You don't want your neighbor to have a home-based hair salon, therefore it should be illegal for your neighbor to have a home-based hair salon? Well then.
Correct. Most of my other neighbors don’t want that either.
Then you don't have to worry about home-based hair salons being legal, because your neighbors won't have any. Great news for all.